Inamatus

After an unfortunate clash between my town and Milkdrop, I am considering moving my village to a new location. We have done some scouting and have found several suitable locations with nearly zero population next to or near rock tile and ocean. Before I engage this move, I would like to see if its worth the effort. To this end I would like to round up some more players. Please contact me online, or here. We are currently located at AV08.

Agreed. I didnt deed it or otherwise protect it. That is on me. Disagree: It wasnt the initial placing a deed that covered my mine entrance, it was the expansion of border over multiple mine entrances griefing... however, that said, I will conceed that Milkdrop, from her point of view, had reason to react the way she chose. Agreed: yes, i had planned on doing everything i could to make what i considered a betrayal cost more than gained. However, I realize at this point that I over-reacted to a degree, the unfortunate part of not having a clear line of communication. It is what it is. I am considering moving, much to Milkdrops delight Im sure.

I expect that the GM didnt know that the mine in question existed before the deed was placed over it. Such an action is undeniably hostile and violates FCC.

Ok... sorry for the late reponse to this development, work and all. 1. It took me 4 days to initially contact you, it wasnt that I hadnt notice, its that we dont play the same hours I think. Regardless, i admit i was initially hostile when I finally made contact because i got the pleasure of stewing about the situation for days. However, we did come to an agreement and in the end Milkdrop was more than fair. 2. While I cant prove it, i never changed permissions or destroyed any doors, but i expect that this is more than a valid reason for Milkdrop to react the way that he did, i would have probably reacted the same way. I had left explicit instructions with my new citizens to stay away from the mine until I had a chance to tell him about the new citizens, that I didnt want to piss him off and loose that access. Im sure a GM, if they bothered to care, could verify via logs that I didnt change permissions. 3. I remember when i did see Milkdrop after his week absence, and everything seemed cool. I told him that I had moved some stuff out of the mine, like extra ribbon and rock because I thought he had quit the game. He never mentioned any door being broken or permissions changed. I expect that probably happened a day or two after and all I can come up with was that it was the actions of my new citizens because I surely didnt change anything, I had no reason to as I already had access. I believe the permissions were set for my town as I remember showing my first citizen the entry and he was able to get in. I shoudl point out that i also gave explicit instructions for them to stay away from the gold deposits, as I was trying to maintain a greatful approach to having access to the mine in the first place. 4. It woudl seem that Milkdrop and I were playing a bit of tag, both looking for each other at the same time to figure things out, but sadly that never happened and this escalated into what it is. Assuming everything Milkdrop says is true, i cant fault him for his actions. It would seem we were both under the impression the other was acting out of malace. 5. The road plans had changed as Snapton, my ally, was building a highway, so the plan was that I would connect the started road to the highway once Snapton got the plans completed. Unfortunately I never got a chance to communicate this to Milkdrop and again, i can see where he might think i dropped my end of the deal. I will point out however that I did do all the wall re-enforcement that he asked me to. 6. Im choosing not to respond to the name calling, or the fact twisting, because I understand where he is comming from. 7. Getting access to Snapton mine woudl be easy enough except it seems they quit, crops have gone rotten, animals have desease, etc. If they come back online im sure the that would be the preferable solution as I doubt Milkdrop will be amiable to any further agreements. 8. We tried to make a mine on the deed, but the deed is realitively flat and all we have so far is a giant dirt hole.... 9. I will admit that on the 3rd and 4th attempt to establish a mine on the mountain face one of the goals was to collapse his mines, and for that I accept responsibility. 10. I am willing to work something out, the rest is up to Milkdrop.

Start over, after 6 weeks of building my spot... its just not worth it. Plus my citizens would also have to start over... its to much to ask.

Oh yeah, i forgot, he has now set his guards to KOS me and my citizens. Fun times.

First, let me preface this with a short history... Several weeks ago Milkdrop placed a deed which covered my mine entrance. I was in the area long before him, in fact the only one in the area, and my deed is very close to the mine, clearly visible from where he dropped his marker. Eventually my mine intersected his and created a shaft which cut him off from one of the gold viens in the area. We came to an agreement that i could use the mine he created in exchange for me helping to reinforce the walls in a specific area and help build a highway. I finished reinforcing the walls and made some progress on the highway and then he disappeared for like a week so I stopped working on the highway to make some progress on my village as at the time I was doing it alone. When he came back he said he was gone because he was moving. Anyway, a few days ago, shortly after I got my first couple recruits, he locked the mine door. I would have continued in my old mine but he collapsed the tunnel entrance (mag spell or orb). We started a new mine entrance farther away from his deed but he just expanded his borders over it. So we started a 3rd entrance yet farther away (and in the progress found a gold vein, but he just expanded his borders yet again and put a door over it. We repeated this process a 4th time, this time within the perimeter of another deed that I am friends with, but that resulted in him going in and reinforcing the walls. He placed a door too, but because it wasnt his deed i just broke it... and found the reinforced walls. Milkdrop has 6-7 alts, maybe more now, and uses the alts exclusively to mine. Im guessing hes mining the 4 gold viens (iron and zinc as well) and is selling gold stuff which he then uses to fund the constant expansion of the deed. I would have expanded mine, but his already touches mine so i cant expand in that direction.He made it clear to me that he is trying to control the entire mountain and had mentioned something about having other deeds and being part of the Marigold alliance, whatever that is. Anyway, my village, and the citizens thereof, are completely cut off from the mountain now and have no supply of rock, let alone anything else. I am currently considering quitting the game... its just not fun anymore when i gotta log in only to have to deal with this situation every day. I have thought of digging under his deed, carving a circle around his entry under it, thereby cutting him off from his mine that expands WELL past his borders into the mountain (with 6-7 alts that constantly mine, its HUGE). I will NOT buy him out, that would just be rewarding him and i refuse to do this. I have reports from other players that they ahve had to deal with the same thing from this Marigold alliance. Anyway... im reaching out for help.