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  2. Budda what I don't understand is these transfers you have come up with to save epic by shuffling existing players over from the freedom side. When what both sides really need is players returning to wurm as well as a huge influx of new players. https://www.humblebundle.com/endless-rpg-lands-bundle Take this amazing promotion you guys have pulled off for wurm unlimited, its nearing 1/4 of a million copies of wu being sold. I think you somehow missed the boat on advertising for the wurm online servers through this promotion, or you hoping the ones that try wu and find they like the game somehow stumble across the wo servers?
  3. Hello friends of wurm I hope you can help me with this server log [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.Items: Loaded 3498026 zone items. That took 30920.316 ms. [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.Items: Loading all zone items using com.wurmonline.server.items.CoinDbStrings@66746f57 [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.Items: Loaded 3505339 zone items. That took 466.15656 ms. [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.combat.WeaponCreator: Creating weapons [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.combat.WeaponCreator: Creating weapons took 0.577828 ms [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.banks.Banks: Loaded 251 banks from database took 14.308207 ms [08:29:28 AM] INFO com.wurmonline.server.structures.Wall: Loading all walls. [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! [08:29:28 AM] WARNING global: Value not a valid array position: -1 RETURNING PLAN(VAL=40)! This warning is coming near 200 times, i dont know what here is wrong :/ but the server is working fine Eject
  4. So if Freedom is harder according to what I understand from these graphs? Why are you bringing a 2x skillgain / timer to Epic? Lmao... I agree with the RNG, but I'm not paying 20 USD every 2 months to play Wurm Unlimited.
  5. It's so insulting you result to name shaming us saying were capitalists all the time! Stop with that please. Maybe you wouldn't try to make money with your caches but others would. No I care about bad game decisions which could ultimately kill freedom, just like epic has taken a hit. Thanks, but I simply see the greater picture here I guess.
  6. Wow jinx @egard
  7. Formula is fine, until it not covers skills that have the same or higher difficulty to level then freedom. Those exceptions should be transfered 1:1. Also, I'am amazed, how much some freedomers are focused on $$, how much they afraid that bringing any items or moonmetals would DESTROY freedom market. It's like epic players gonna cross, sell all their items and then begin to run naked everywhere, smacking everyone with their bare hands or di.... Couse, sure, they won't need their equipment. Have you thought about wagon/ship market? All those immigrants would make their boats and wagons, it would certainly hit those markets!!!! It's not like they gonna cross and buy things from freedom market, thus bringing silvers for freedom players. My future prediction is: Many people will cross to Epic, few will cross to Chaos. Those, who gonna cross to Chaos got bored, couse there would be less people on Chaos (many crossed to Epic). Finally they would come back to Epic or rot on freedom (DESTROYING it's market, of course). Epic is blooming and everyone lives happily ever after (at least for one year).
  8. This, especially since how body stats like Stamina can be gained more on freedom because of mining / digging and such. I know they did the patch to fix epic stamina on toons but it realistically doenst even compare to freedom toons. Not just talking about stamina but all characteristics.
  9. Will there be an appropriate compensation with regards to stamina.
  10. The formula seems pretty fair. Nice graphs and explanation also. If the same formula were used on body stats, however, I think it would considerably undervalue them. Could body stats be transferred at 1:1, or could you do some more matlab wizardry to calculate a fair formula for these also?
  11. If tomes won't transfer, would there be considered a way to remove tomes from an account to use on another?
  12. So as mentioned, will meditating be 1:1 and will fighting(and its substats) be 1:1?
  13. Dude a boat is a boat, I didn't say full boat, just boat....
  14. this wasted time could have instead been made useful by prepping for map reset edit: or creating red cloth pants since we have shirt / sleeves but no red pants
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  16. The formula feels about right for normal (more variable difficulty skills). If I'm understanding correctly, this will be applied across all skills, even the ones that take longer on epic? And the 3x to epic max is being considered as compensation for nerfing skills that should probably be buffed in a fairer world? Hmm that sounds pretty reasonable, if it can't be done on a skill by skill basis. ... not looking forward to more meditation though, even with 3x
  17. -1 to this entire thread especially the topic... quit wasting time trying to hug babies and focus on something useful. epic is pvp server, they can suck it up like they always have
  18. This is how you kill freedom markets and chaos pvp, it's extremely unfair and unreasonable. One boat? With how many containers? SMH... Aside from that, it's a window of opportunity, and unfair for those in the future that resubscribe currently on epic. The only way taking tomes with your transfer would be fair is if they made the system more reasonable to earn them. Same goes for moonmetal - It's a paywall on freedom, so those coming from epic are severely overpowered. I don't understand why it's so hard to understand.
  19. -1 to Smejacks suggestion obviously. I think reasons have been mentioned in the other suggestion thread --- If this is how the skill transfer is going to be i think the devs are very generous towards the epic players. Seeing as if you have 99 skill you basically lose nothing. even at 90 you don't lose much.
  20. Also will med path transfer? especially since it's confirmed meditating is harder on epic so we certainly earned it?
  21. When you are completely changing the foundation of the game and not just making changes here and there then its only fair to let people out and if you are afraid of every Epic account that there ever was showing up on Freedom then use a loyalty system so that you aren't insulting the people that have held on staying loyal and paying while waiting. Transfers get given for trivial things in comparison to this such as deity swaps and med path swaps but changing the entire core mechanics means get nerfed or suck it up? If you want to change Epic completely that's fine its your choice and I do honestly hope that it works, but it is not what we signed up for and we shouldn't be losing out for that choice. You make pretty graphs but they still don't tell the whole story about what is and isn't possible nor the fact that Freedom does have access to 2x gains. Consider using something like this immigration policy to drastically reduce the 'damage' to the first class cluster? Asylum Seeker Greencards Any account with prem between April 12th and October 12th - Full account transfer (Skills/tomes/karma ect) and one inventory transport, potentially one boat each with the assistance of a GM. Greencard lottery immigrants Accounts not prem since between October 11th 2016 and April 11th - Partial account transfer (only skills as they are) and limited inventory transport (perhaps 10-20 items) Tourist Visa Accounts not prem since before October 11th 2016 - Partial account transfer (only skills at whatever your arbitrary % is) and no inventory transport.
  22. does this work for body stats too? so i put in my 70 strength and it gets nerfed to 60? because at lower ends of skills for fs training you gain higher stats, but as you reach about 60 on epic it drops to about a 1/3rd of what it was at 1-60
  23. Just skills
  24. I really hope tomes and affinities are not included here.
  25. I used some valrei items on my chaos character on epic to finish my personal goals. One of those is the dreaded Red cherry. Am I now screwed when I bring this character over to Epic? I used the item on the account under the assumption that I would never be able to bring it over with its skills.
  26. The formula above the last graph is a link to a calculator http://buddat.net/epicSkills.html
  27. Is there a formula or statement or something that would show simple minds what our skills would become on freedom? Will there be anything done for accounts with skills on both clusters? Like if I grinded med to 80 on epic then grinded to 80 on freedom, it's just going to be flat out still 80 even though if I didn't grind it I'd have gotten a boost to starting the grind? Are skills like faith and fight skill going to transfer 1:1? I believe they are the same exact skillgain rate so 90 on epic matches 90 on freedom but maybe that can be confirmed
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