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As I post this I realize that I may actually be feeding the DDOS originator.


 


I apologize in advance for this posts length.


 


Numerous posts exist about how it hurts our gameplay fun, affects the company, how we are supportive, and other points regarding the current attack.. This little blurb of mine is intended to provide a shred of info about DDOS attacks and their originators.


 


A DDOS attack is considered a "dumb" attack. It is really not a hack at all. Individuals that initiate the attacks are not hackers. They have no special abilities or skill set. The purpose of DDoS attacks are not to steal information but rather to prove a point. They simply control botnets (groups of innocent, unprotected computer users) to show their supposed strength. The truth? They are weak. They are at best, script kiddies, no matter their true age.


 


Corporations are attacked quite frequently for numerous reasons of course. Perhaps you are aware of web presences such as the CIA being hit with a DDOS attack to prove a point. Other corporations or organizations are attacked for personal reasons, or for financial gain. Practically anybody can imitate a DDOS attack, with varying degrees of success. It does not make them special. The reason is that it simply is not an intelligent hack, but instead a cheap bombardment against network systems that are for various reasons, unable to protect themselves, or provide means to alleviate the problems caused by the attacks. I mentioned the CIA being hit. They aren't alone. Others such as Wordpress, credit card companies, and others have been hit as well. Some companies are in fact attacked almost daily. Most can't protect themselves. Some of them have the financial means to handle attacks, but even big corporations (not to mention small and medium businesses, Rolf) do not have the ability to scale the way the Internet giants do. The giants such as Apple, are prepared. They have built a 5000,000 square foot data center, worth about 1 billion dollars. Others such as Google, Amazon or Microsoft  can handle almost any amount of traffic.Corporations like them can cordon off a DDOS attack, and stream it into a black hole where it is not longer affecting their servers. It is expensive, and we ultimately pay for it.


 


So big deal. Why point out how mega bucks corporations are protected, and how others (the majority) like Rolf's are not?


 


Attacking a smaller network infrastructure is like beating up on children, or others that are unable to fully protect themselves. The attack shows cowardice, and a lack of backbone. The person or persons that attacked Rolf show that they are that cowardly type of individual, low in character, to afraid to attack anything other than an easy target. They can keep telling themselves lies, but they know the truth.


 


He, she, or they, can sit smugly, trying hard to avoid the truth of what they know truly are.


 


Let us not give them the time of day to describe how we are affected. Let us not give them what they need, that satisfaction, that false pride they require to cover up their shameful, and unskilled attack against the innocent. They have chosen to join the prestigious group that includes pond scum and emal spammers. They secretly want recognition. Let us quietly recognize them for what they really are.


 


My apologies for the soap box, poor grammar and typing errors.


 


See you in Wurm.


 


 


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One thing I like to add is that (to my knowledge) it was the CIA *website* that was hacked.  Nothing super important of theirs suffered from the attack, merely the website that any Joe-Bob can access was taken down.

I can only assume that the CIA website isn't particularly well-protected.  There's no real need for it, I imagine.

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Thank-you for taking the time to explain this so well. This is the point that I find myself trying to explain in brief so often. Upset posts by players on the forums are likely just as much, if not more satisfying to the attacker, than Wurm itself being down.


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Very well said. Thank you for that awesome description of cowardice. ;)


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so,my sacrificing chickens and pleading to voodoo gods wont bring down WoW?<is now very depressed


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Anybody knows about any way to check if a Mac is infected by a bot?


 


I can't find anything conclusive, as most of the time, on forums, people starts to arguing if they are any bots for mac or no, in the "Mac is perfect, PC is crap" vs "Mac is for noobs, PC are the best" brainwashed consumer war :lol:


 


Thx in advance


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waarokku, on 19 Feb 2014 - 5:26 PM, said:

so,my sacrificing chickens and pleading to voodoo gods wont bring down WoW?<is now very depressed

 

Don't worry, the Venerable Diseased WoW can't possibly live too much longer...

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"A DDOS attack is considered a "dumb" attack. "

As long as it causes loss for companies and people, it should be taken seriously, even if it is originated from a "script kiddie" and can look as dumb as is. It not only causes problems for the service attacked by the ddos but adds expenses on isp level to fight against them. In the early era of computer networks (DARPANet, etc.) the network topology was very different than nowadays, you could shot a part of the network but the rest were still up and running (because of the homogenous topology). Now with ISPs the topology is tree-based and DDos attacks have higher influence than they could be.

A naive approach about the second part of your comment: CIA and NSA is now about collecting information from everything and they do data mining when its needed (now is proven that they closely working with Google, Microsoft, Facebook and others) so if someone would hack them, still don't have the resources to get valuable information from the mass data collected, only if he is an insider. So hacking them has no real point unless for foreign governments.

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"A DDOS attack is considered a "dumb" attack. "

As long as it causes loss for companies and people, it should be taken seriously, even if it is originated from a "script kiddie" and can look as dumb as is.

I think his point was that it's not usually a sophisticated attack by professional hackers, not that it shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

 

Don't worry, the Venerable Diseased WoW can't possibly live too much longer...

 

Wow has been going strong for so many years, by shifting the demographic of the age group that it appeals to. I think Blizzard has proven time and time again, that they understand where the real money is; a younger crowd, constantly pumping in large amounts of new sales, as opposed to just keeping some of the old 'I don't want anything to change' playerbase happy. People have been calling WoW dieing, or diseased since the Burning Crusade came out, and look how they're doing now? Strong as ever. Do I play wow anymore? No. Would I consider playing again? Not likely. Does that mean that there aren't millions of younger gamers who will likely relish in(and throw their parents money at) what WoW has evolved into? Not at all. I'd give World of Warcraft at least another 5 years of healthy subscriber counts, longer if they manage to continually re-imagine the game.

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Wow has been going strong for so many years, by shifting the demographic of the age group that it appeals to. I think Blizzard has proven time and time again, that they understand where the real money is; a younger crowd, constantly pumping in large amounts of new sales, as opposed to just keeping some of the old 'I don't want anything to change' playerbase happy. People have been calling WoW dieing, or diseased since the Burning Crusade came out, and look how they're doing now? Strong as ever. Do I play wow anymore? No. Would I consider playing again? Not likely. Does that mean that there aren't millions of younger gamers who will likely relish in(and throw their parents money at) what WoW has evolved into? Not at all. I'd give World of Warcraft at least another 5 years of healthy subscriber counts, longer if they manage to continually re-imagine the game.

 

I just hope the Mature Champion ESO fares better against it than the Young Raging GW2 did....

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I just hope the Mature Champion ESO fares better against it than the Young Raging GW2 did....

As do I. I think GW2 was an absolutely brilliant game, to level up in, just all the different ways to gain experience, the beautiful landscapes, and all that, but once I hit endgame? I've never been bored so fast in my life, and I think that was largely due to 'all weapons and gear are the best you're going to get'. Plus it went from, you can play your class 100 different ways, to, 'oh, you have to play this way now or you'll get 1 shot over and over'

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Arronicus, on 19 Feb 2014 - 6:49 PM, said:

As do I. I think GW2 was an absolutely brilliant game, to level up in, just all the different ways to gain experience, the beautiful landscapes, and all that, but once I hit endgame? I've never been bored so fast in my life, and I think that was largely due to 'all weapons and gear are the best you're going to get'. Plus it went from, you can play your class 100 different ways, to, 'oh, you have to play this way now or you'll get 1 shot over and over'

 

The class system in GW2 paled in comparison to the one in the original GW. I had so much fun in the original GW creating and trying out new builds. One time in the PVP arena my three allies died in the first few seconds, and I tanked the enemy team until the match timed out, and scored 4 kills allowing my team to win even though they kept reviving each other and trying to pummel me into submission. I think it's sad than in modern games everyone gets pigeon-holed into 1 or 2 builds for the sake of "balance" just so kids don't die to people like me and develop some kind of mental complex. What's hilarious is after that match, I was reported for hacking, threatened in PM, and every time those people saw me again in PVP afterward they would just quit. XD

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     GW2 was fun for a while.  Some elements of the game were total crap, but many were a lot of fun, enough so you could just do the stuff you actually liked.  They lost me as a player however, when they made the shift to all new content being temporary content.  GW2 can never be more than a place one goes for a  visit,  Wurm is a place where you can live.  In GW2 nothing you do will ever make any difference, in Wurm, you can literally change the world.


 


     Many good games have been sacrificed at the 'altar of game balance'.  I think Wurm (and the original Darkfall to name another) got it right.  No levels.  What you do, you get better at.  You can do anything anyone else can do, if you want to put in the time and effort.  The longer you play, the better you get.  You can choose to be a generalist, or a specialist, as you see fit.  Simple, elegant and equitable, as many great notions happen to be.  Fair to players new, and old alike. 


 


     In regards to ESO, I'd like to tell you what I think, however . . . 

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Ebriel, on 19 Feb 2014 - 8:53 PM, said:Ebriel, on 19 Feb 2014 - 8:53 PM, said:

     GW2 was fun for a while.  Some elements of the game were total crap, but many were a lot of fun, enough so you could just do the stuff you actually liked.  They lost me as a player however, when they made the shift to all new content being temporary content.  GW2 can never be more than a place one goes for a  visit,  Wurm is a place where you can live.  In GW2 nothing you do will ever make any difference, in Wurm, you can literally change the world.

 

     Many good games have been sacrificed at the 'altar of game balance'.  I think Wurm (and the original Darkfall to name another) got it right.  No levels.  What you do, you get better at.  You can do anything anyone else can do, if you want to put in the time and effort.  The longer you play, the better you get.  You can choose to be a generalist, or a specialist, as you see fit.  Simple, elegant and equitable, as many great notions happen to be.  Fair to players new, and old alike. 

 

     In regards to ESO, I'd like to tell you what I think, however . . . 

 

I don't like Wurm's skill capping at 20 though if you don't pay for premium. For someone with a rather seasonal occupation who is near broke half the year, and well-off the other half, it's kind of a waste for me to even invest money in this game as much as I want to. When I have the money to spare I am too busy working or too tired from work, and when I have the time to spare I am broke from not working. It'd be much nicer in my opinion if free players could level up their skills at least high enough to make a reasonable profit or fend off a troll by themselves if they devote enough hours to the game, if not all the way to the max. The ONLY thing I hate about this game is that it keeps reminding me how broke I am in RL at the moment. And when I DO have the money I just won't have the time.

 

Also, I welcome your opinions on ESO. I played the latest beta so I have some opinions on it as well.

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There was a conversation that I was having with a couple of buddys (few years ago) about DDOSing, and it turns out that there are actually sites for hire out there that will DDOS for you (for a price). So calling them a script kiddy might actually be overshooting a bit.. most likely, just some guy with a bone to pick and some jingle in his pocket.


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