Carts and Cages

[roarkindrake 258]

With the load function coming out there is still one thing that i think would make it more worthy.  To be able to load your animals and carts on to the ship itself (could be made only the bigger ships for carts so it would make up for the pain of dealing with bad winds). The cages would work on size so say you had 1 horse per cage and you would assign horses a specific weight. Well divide that up with pheasants,hens,roosters and you would get x amount. Bulls and cows would either be around the same as a horse or maybe a little larger. There could be a certain amount of cages allowed per boat starting with Corbita allowing 2 cages , Cog 4 , Knarr 3 (due to size), Caravel 6. Each boat would be allowed to hold one wagon.

[Klaa 4871]

Heh cage traps... long as wooden cages work for dragons.

+D if you get the reference.

[KanePT 698]

Only if you can't cross servers with the animals.

[roarkindrake 258]

This is mostly for inner server travel yes . Like with Release Spawn Lake canal its hard for some of the helpers to actually take anything with them for doing so because they dont have a way to load ( carry there cart and horses with) there boat or just had to travel on horse back.

[Etherdrifter 2525]

I like the idea but I would add in the specific that the animals must be tamed before they are caged.

I'd also tier the ability to hold a wagon/cart.  Have it as a feature only for larger boats.

+1 if all of the above is done

[roarkindrake 258]

The taming part i dont really agree with as Tamed 5 speeds are to valuable to risk traveling anywhere. But the rest sounds good Ether.

[Klaa 4871]

Hmm have cages function akin to bins?

 

Although regardless of the exact mechanics of shipping animals, theres some main concerns or questions. To start off with the only animals that can be shippable should be led. Pets included.

 

Should animals (whether as pets or wild) be allowed to be shipped across borders?

The server population caps are a concern; though, I doubt the playerbase is even close to large enough for this to be an issue.

 

Should the uniques be shippable (when in a leadabe state)?

Personally its fine as long as the corresponding unique is dead, or its not an issue codewise having the same critter around. Not sure if Rebirth applies, since it seems to create a whole new critter from the corpse. Zombies from bred horses do not have the traits, basically act like wild horses.

 

Some may not like letting horses across since currently one keeps breeds unique to each map.

 

EDIT: Not to mention, atm raiders have to keep secret corrals if they want traited mounts at a moments notice.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Klaa

[Kittysong 43]

+1 i lost chickens because i couldn't take them over low water crossing

[roarkindrake 258]

The uniques i don't think are shippable because its hard for them to leave there territory. Now there corpses i assume thats just a item and therefore not involved with this . And they should not be allowed to cross borders unless its to improve pvp. Also i agree that if you cannot lead it naturally then you should not be able to put them on the boat.

[Arronicus 733]

-1 to additional transportation functionality for Knarrs. They're already the only ship worth using other than a sailboat on Epic, this would just further reinforce their dominance. I like the idea of a transportation method for animals, but I sincerely hope that it wouldn't work with knarrs. The storage ability of them is non-sensical considering they don't actually have room on the boat for all that stuff. Where would you put a cage with a bull in it? On one of the small bench seats?

+1 to transporting animals on cog, corbita, caravel
-1 to transporting carts, wagons, furniture, large crates, and in this case, livestock, on Knarrs. Let them be the pvp go-to, but give caravels/cogs/corbitas SOME useful functionality.

 

 

Corbita allowing 2 cages , Cog 4 , Knarr 3 (due to size)

 

additionally, why would you give the corbita 2, and the knarr 3, when the corbita is over twice the size of the knarr? Ignoring the fact that the cog/corbita/caravel all have dramatically more deck and cargohold space than the knarr (on the boat model), the knarr is shallow in height, and 4 tiles. the cog and corbita are both 10 tiles in size (2x5) and the caravel is 15 roughly. 

Edited February 15, 2014 by Arronicus

[roarkindrake 258]

i kinda went by price range and most used boat rather than boat size. I see your point tho that the bigger the boat the bigger the cage or number of i should say that are allowed.

[Suntzu 644]

+1