Remove fight skill gain from killing players

[Caius 27]

The harvesting of fight skill from other players, whether through legitimate kills or through the rinse and repeat slayings of sacrificial alts (which is happening far too often) should be stopped.

 

There is already enough incentive to kill other players without skill gain being involved. Looting gear, getting affinities, and increasing battle rank are well and enough. The fight skill gain is too big and is being exploited to hell. Simply killing an alt with suitable fight skill results in instant skill gain far greater than what a player could legitimately achieve hunting for a far longer period of time.

 

Alt slaying has been a point of contention for years, and I believe this is the only surefire way to stop the practice almost entirely (excluding the harvesting of affinities that would still occur).

[Shrimpiie 3665]

No.

-1

[RockyBalboa 565]

lol i read only title... what is point of pvp then?  

[Buttercups 197]

Let me abuse it for like a week or so, then +1

[hemrzz 1288]

i think before we look at this.....

 

We should get a Dislike button... added to the forums so i can dislike this thread.

[RockyBalboa 565]

i think topic is about alt harvesting FS problem 

 

 

there can be some blocks for start...  no FS from alts on same IP address....  just for start..  as we have spy protection system

Edited February 10, 2014 by RockyBalboa

[AlphaWolfen 160]

meh not removed but fix it. it is bad enough knowing that players are able to farm alts for FS and other things and not having it legit kills

[MrGARY 12422]

So punish 95% of pvpers because of the 5% that kill alts?  What

 

I don't even care for loot.  The 2 main things I get from pvp is fs and affinities.  I took the long road via hunting and pvp to get 100 fs, I don't see why we have to change that for everyone else.

 

Find some other solution to end alt abuse that doesn't involve ruining it for everyone, and then I can +1 it.

[atazs 966]

-1 

Even though i dont like alt farming, its stupid to remove the skill gain from killing enemy players

Edited February 10, 2014 by atazs

[Deathangel 432]

http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/94226-fight-skill-from-alt-accounts-clarification/page-7#entry963578

 

a solution that accounts for past hunting hours people put towards their fight skill honestly. not hourly based but people with any skill obviously spent hours, or even months of actual hunting (not months of irl, months ingame like 150 days playtime hunting only)

 

also removes the need or want for alt killing, and any past possible abuse of it but doesnt quite disable it as hunting gains would be not capped like they are now (its like 10% what you would gain below 70.00fs now, soft cap) and it probably wouldn't be as popular as hunting for fs if this linked change is implemented.

[fsbkun 23]

after fs getting from hunt buffed - fs from pvp became useless

you can kill 10 spiders and get more fs then during 1-2 huge raids

if we compare "Death" tab statistic for last 2-6m we will see

90% of deaths is alt killing

if you try analyse it in term of amount of fs you got - guess nearly 100% of fs gets from alt killing

(cause if you 1vs10person (most pvp kills) - you got really small amount of fs)

 

be fair guyz, pvp was always for loot, never for fs grind 

 

so +1 

dont make wurm a game where most fs get person who have more premmed alt. 

[Emoo 4402]

-1 Im in favor of the solution tot his problem of removing or lessen the soft cap for hunting Mobs so its possible to gain 90+FS realistically without using alts. 

[Fireflyb 920]

The harvesting of fight skill from other players, whether through legitimate kills or through the rinse and repeat slayings of sacrificial alts (which is happening far too often) should be stopped.

 

There is already enough incentive to kill other players without skill gain being involved. Looting gear, getting affinities, and increasing battle rank are well and enough. The fight skill gain is too big and is being exploited to hell. Simply killing an alt with suitable fight skill results in instant skill gain far greater than what a player could legitimately achieve hunting for a far longer period of time.

 

Alt slaying has been a point of contention for years, and I believe this is the only surefire way to stop the practice almost entirely (excluding the harvesting of affinities that would still occur).

or just ban people who abuse FS from alts

[Zivirt 349]

-1

[Deathangel 432]

Also if you like my solution spam quotes or something, it has to be heard by Rolf for anything to happen.. 

[Oreo 5793]

-1 Im in favor of the solution tot his problem of removing or lessen the soft cap for hunting Mobs so its possible to gain 90+FS realistically without using alts. 

buut.. it is possible!

 

Also -1, should revert the guys who killed alts for Fight Skill in my opinion..

Edited February 10, 2014 by Oreo

[Gamurin 55]

-1 PvP is esentiall

[Tuhljin 13]

lol i read only title... what is point of pvp then?  

 

So you admit you are willfully ignorant of others' arguments, then. Whether this suggestion is a good idea or a bad idea -- your approach to it is bad.

 

 

-1 PvP is esentiall

 

Looks like you didn't read it, either. And it looks like others didn't address the OP's argument, either. Way to live up to the stereotype, forum-goers/PvPers.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Tuhljin

[whykillme 1621]

As said before, make it so you only get FS one time per month from a certain player...

[Protunia 735]

Don't forget to delete all those affinities as well over the years farmed off players.....

[ZarmaZarma 192]

People PvP for fight skill? I always looked at is an incentive, but it seems counter intuitive that people would kill people to get fight skill so that they could better kill people. Isn't killing people the object, in the end? I pvp for affinities, loot, glory, etc. I don't like the idea of removing fs from killing people, because I enjoy the bonus reward, but to be honest... if it'll stop more guys from hitting 100 fs through complete BS, I'd prefer it. Unless we could come up with some better solutions....

[Emoo 4402]

buut.. it is possible!

 

Also -1, should revert the guys who killed alts for Fight Skill in my opinion..

 

I think it was worked out that the last .00012 someone in MR needs to reach exactly 100 fighting requires 60champion animals. 

 

That to me is not a realistic amount to gain legitimately, ever. Removing the softcap or lessening it simply means that it will still be possible for people to reach higher tiers of FS to compete with these players that have been using alts for some time and hopefully avoid another "Window of Opportunity"

[Kagrenac 812]

-1

[san_tropez 394]

Remove the last CR bonus from 100 FS

[Fooligun 591]

I think it was worked out that the last .00012 someone in MR needs to reach exactly 100 fighting requires 60champion animals. 

 

That to me is not a realistic amount to gain legitimately, ever. Removing the softcap or lessening it simply means that it will still be possible for people to reach higher tiers of FS to compete with these players that have been using alts for some time and hopefully avoid another "Window of Opportunity"

100 in a skill is not meant to be easy...

http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/44680-100-hfc/?hl=cooking

600 meals to gain 0.0005 skill is not easy by any stretch, its only been made possible by players capable of rapid clicking. Go and earn the fight skill rather than killing alts.

+1 to OP

0.001 - 0.0005 each 600 meals.