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[BARGAIN] Two large deeds (69x65 and 33x33), trader, transmutation rod, starting char, few rares, 15s - bid start 1 euro, no reserve, buyout 120 euro

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Hello folks,

I love WURM, I really do, but it's just too addictive for me. I tried everything possible - making myself a strict gaming schedule, decided to play only in the evening after work, decided to play only weekdays, only weekends, everything. But I failed on that constantly, coming to the point where WURM started to negatively affect my real life (staying late to play one more hour, skipping a getaway just so I can play instead, etc). And, no matter how hard it would be, it's probably the best to quit now and really don't come back (I failed at this in the past too, lol, but I just hope this time it would be different). Also the fact that my laptop decided to die for good tonight (RIP), helped with my decision. If I won't hurry up to buy a new one (and I won't since I don't even have the money for it - lol), by the time this will happen I should be over WURM. ;)

So I decided (once again) to sell my account, my deeds and pretty much all my WURM belongings. Since the characters are quite new (less than two months old) I guess the biggest "asset" would be the deeds

The first deed (The Hermitage) is located on Exodus server, on coordinates (X28, Y12) on this map. It is in a very good position - coastal, accessible easily both via land or sea, but still in a rather secluded place, without many strangers messing around.

The real size is 69x65 (34x32 in deed settings) - 4.485 total tiles, a standard perimeter and it has one guard.

The deed has 30+ silvers in maintenance (can't check exact amount since my computer crashed, but should certainly be above 30), enough for 100+ days.

The deed also has a trader.

Talking about resources, it has at least: iron, silver, copper, tin, lead, marble, tar on deed and clay really close.

There are also two guard towers - one on deed, one on perimeter.

Hundreds of trees (including lots of oaks), quite a few animals (20 horses, 10 cows, 5 bisons), a few full BSBs, eight large carts, a small boat, as well as three set of tools are just details I don't even consider worth mentioning.

It also has four buildings, but nothing really impressive.



The second deed (The Hermitage High Grounds) is located on Exodus server, on coordinates (X28, Y13) on this map (just south of the first deed, with the two tokens aligned, 16 tiles left between the two deeds perimeters so no other deed can sneak it - that place was though as either a buffer for expansion, either an off-deed orchard or something). It is also in a very good position - coastal, accessible easily both via land or sea, but still in a rather secluded place, without many strangers messing around.

The real size is 33x33 (16x16 in deed settings) - 1.089 total tiles and a standard perimeter. It has room for expansion in all directions at least 16 tiles. My intention was to eventually expand it to also 69x65, at which point the two deeds would have perimeters touching each other and they would be perfectly aligned).

The deed has like 8 silvers in maintenance (can't check exact amount since my computer crashed, but should should be about 8), enough for 100+ days.

If desired, a trader could be placed on the deed (no other traders too close).

Talking about resources, it has at least: iron, silver, copper, tin, lead, zinc, marble on deed and clay, tar really close.

The deed is pretty much untouched - no buildings, no big terraforming projects, etc.



The main character (named AlexDunphy which is the name of a TV character from Modern Family).

She has premium time 'till March 19th, so more than two months left.

She has farming affinity, she is level 6 on Path of Love, and 30 faith (ready for priesthood if one would desire so).

Here's a full skill dump:


Religion: 0.0
Alignment: 40.505997
Faith: 30.0
Favor: 30.0
Skills: 0.0
Paving: 15.27466
Tracking: 2.4910498
Prospecting: 20.196312
Polearms: 2.1453195
Halberd: 2.2164547
Religion: 3.3846467
Prayer: 7.452604
Healing: 6.767042
First aid: 14.178706
Thievery: 1.3747915
Traps: 1.0
Lock picking: 1.7495831
Climbing: 11.3005905
Shields: 4.7483535
Large metal shield: 5.3659015
Axes: 9.105482
Huge axe: 1.7788825
Large axe: 2.0332499
Hatchet: 10.840012
Small Axe: 1.4450758
Swords: 18.0604
Two handed sword: 8.231066
Shortsword: 16.806921
Longsword: 20.958063
Knives: 13.114585
Butchering knife: 16.64806
Carving knife: 12.478543
Woodcutting: 24.801952
Mauls: 1.6246561
Small maul: 1.967554
Medium maul: 1.8440281
Large maul: 1.8079994
Carpentry: 45.892475
Fine carpentry: 25.774921
Ship building: 13.3732
Nature: 37.771214
Gardening: 25.245619
Fishing: 1.0
Animal husbandry: 21.029953
Meditating: 32.37984
Milking: 3.4219
Farming: 42.794228
Forestry: 41.048725
Botanizing: 27.450415
Animal taming: 5.2943788
Foraging: 33.334362
Cooking: 8.867537
Hot food cooking: 6.746202
Beverages: 16.426517
Butchering: 9.35464
Fighting: 14.7009535
Shield bashing: 5.9126987
Taunting: 1.3793224
Normal fighting: 23.33243
Defensive fighting: 8.065672
Aggressive fighting: 6.1836867
Weaponless fighting: 20.23173
Alchemy: 7.5874367
Natural substances: 17.739355
Miscellaneous items: 38.93081
Stone chisel: 6.131354
Hammer: 19.278227
Sickle: 28.837976
Repairing: 24.43028
Saw: 11.795184
Pickaxe: 26.492535
Rake: 30.220135
Shovel: 36.677128
Pottery: 33.579597
Firemaking: 5.1532073
Digging: 52.488117
Mining: 25.091509
Smithing: 15.358446
Metallurgy: 1.7206658
Jewelry smithing: 1.4036273
Locksmithing: 2.2608955
Blacksmithing: 27.962711
Armour smithing: 2.8730843
Shield smithing: 5.2748117
Weapon smithing: 7.309766
Blades smithing: 4.751246
Weapon heads smithing: 2.6769357
Ropemaking: 3.2906623
Masonry: 17.163769
Stone cutting: 11.495944
Tailoring: 8.089501
Cloth tailoring: 19.554071
Characteristics: 0.0
Soul: 20.564432
Soul strength: 20.543789
Soul depth: 23.848001
Mind: 21.721125
Mind speed: 20.373764
Mind logic: 25.433216
Body: 23.02346
Body stamina: 21.931877
Body strength: 23.74845
Body control: 22.383347



The character has no warnings and, as a fun note, it never died.



There is also a second character, named Zapacila, but really the only thing worth mentioning about it is that it has mining affinity.



What should also be mentioned though are the few rares I have: floor loom (oaken), long sword, meditation rug, spindle (oaken), pickaxe, small bucket (oaken), iron brand, lamp.



I also have 15 silver coins available.



I also have a transmutation rod.



Now about the price.

1. According to this tool placing the first deed costed 91.70 silver coins, while placing the second deed costed 23.78 silver coins, so for both of them a total of 115.48 silver coins (1.15 gold coins).

2. The first deed has in coffers at least 30 silver coins, and the second deed has in coffers around 8 silver coins, so for both of them a total of 38 silver coins.

3. A trader contract costs 50 silvers.

4. A transmutation rod costs 50 silvers.

So the total cost for the deeds would raise 2 gold 53 silver 48 coppers (hard verifiable facts, no need to trust my word on this). At the shop price of 160 euros / 1 gold, that would mean 406 euros.

5. Also talking about hard verifiable facts, the premium time left on the character (even including any skill dumps) would value at least 16 more euros and the 15 silvers in bank account would value 24 more euros at shop price.

6. For the small rares collection and everything else existing on deed I don't add any amount since I don't really know how much would they value.

Anyway, the idea is that the whole package values (again, hard verifiable facts, no need to trust my word on this) at least 450 euros - not including any work done on character, any rares, any of the assets from inventory or from deeds.

But of course I don't expect to get that much, since I realize that on selling out you never recover the money you invested in a deed / character.

So I don't expect to get 450 euros. Not even 400, 350, 300, 250, 200 or 150 euros.

What I honestly hope / expect to get is something around 120 euros (and for this amount offered as buyout I would let the whole package go right away).

To be totally honest, I would probably be happy even with like 100 euros (but in this case I would let the auction run till the end).

Anyway, I am decided to leave so I won't hold on price; If I don't get any buyout offer up to my expectations I would let it go for whatever the highest big is (there is no reserve, so if the only bid is 1 euro, then that one will get the whole package for 1 euro :P).



Starting bid: 1 euro

Increment: 1 euro

Buyout: 100 - 120 euros

Reserve: none

Duration: 72 hours

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Edited by Zapacila

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do you have a screenshot of the surpeme loom?


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No screenshot since computer died, but once a buyer is found, I could go to an internet cafe and before any payment is made log in, meet in game and show everything (not only as printscreen, but also in "person").

About the loom though, since it is not in inventory (not pickable), but on deed, If someone can go to my place it should be in the blackdog crashing pad house; think it is visible via window.

But anyway since I didn't know price for any of the other thing except those having a fixed price (deed setting, deed funds, trader, rod, premium time) I didn't asked anything for them, but just considered them "free bonuses".

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And btw, why I said I would hope/expect for 100-120 euros.

 

First calculation:
- I could disband the deed, reform at minimal size with same name (would keep trader) which would leave me with 20+s (30s for disband - 10s for new forms)
- I could disband second deed for 8s
- I could easily sell the new formed trader deed by itself with 40s since is cheaper this way (yeah, it is 38s to buy a trader contract, but to this one should also add 10s to set a trader deed in the first place)
- I could easily sell the rod with 25-30s (even nowadays)
- I have 15s on cash

So, even without selling character, any items, etc, I should still be easily able to get ~110 silver coins, which could be easily sold with 100-120 euros, looking how many WTB threads are.

 

Second calculation:

- Even without considering at all the costs for setting a deed of this size (the new owner could shrink to whatever size they would want), the deed should value at least 45s (for the trader + deed form) + 30s (money in upkeep) so 70s

- I could just disband second deed for 8s

- I could easily sell the rod with 25-30s (even nowadays)

- I have 15s on cash

 

So, again, even without selling character, any items, etc, I should still be easily able to get ~120 silver coins, which could be easily sold with 110-130 euros, looking how many WTB threads are.

 

But I just feel it would be a waste, since I spent so much money on deeds setting / resizing, and maybe there is someone out there who would actually like a large property to make it a living village.

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Costs 38s to buy a trader from a trader since yours is placed already it's not worth 40.  Rods are selling for 25 on a quick sale.  so 60s together.   Deed is probably worth about 40s depending on how it's built.  Character to hold the deed is worth about 10s.  So that's about 85s total.   Disbanding the second one gives 93s.  So maybe 80e is your top price.   But I'm at my limit.   Good luck


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Costs 38s to buy a trader from a trader since yours is placed already it's not worth 40.  Rods are selling for 25 on a quick sale.  so 60s together.   Deed is probably worth about 40s depending on how it's built.  Character to hold the deed is worth about 10s.  So that's about 85s total.   Disbanding the second one gives 93s.  So maybe 80e is your top price.   But I'm at my limit.   Good luck



 



 


Even without contesting any of your estimations, I really don't get it how 60 (what you estimated trader + rod) + 40 (what you estimated deed) +10 (what you estimated character) + 8s (what you get for disbanding deed) makes 93... on my math 60+40+10+8=118s; add to this the 15s in cash and you'll get a total of 133s (which I guess value ~133 euro) even in your evaluation, and that not counting at all any of the items or things on deed. ;)


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That was an interesting way to do maths Lando! You subtracted some each time you added more on.


 


OP, I was considering whether or not to post, since you did say you only want bids and not other off topic discussions, but since you have also posted..


 


Those seem like nice deeds. They are a little far from my corner of Exo to consider. I do wonder (having watched your forum topics for some time) how much you actually make from each of these transactions, as it does seem sometimes that would be your motivation for doing this time and time again. If you are addicted to wurm, and that bothers you, then yes sell and don't reinstall. If you can come to terms with the addiction, and manage it (strict times to finish each night, or only certain number of hours) then it should be ok. I'm sure many of us have dealt with this at times in the past. Since it seemed you moved to Exo while I was away from the game during a real life move, I hadn't realised that AlexDunphy was you. I'm a bit of a lurker in freedom chat mostly anyway.


 


Well good luck with the sale whatever your motivation is. I'm sure any screenshots you have can help.


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That was an interesting way to do maths Lando! You subtracted some each time you added more on.

 

OP, I was considering whether or not to post, since you did say you only want bids and not other off topic discussions, but since you have also posted..

 

Those seem like nice deeds. They are a little far from my corner of Exo to consider. I do wonder (having watched your forum topics for some time) how much you actually make from each of these transactions, as it does seem sometimes that would be your motivation for doing this time and time again. If you are addicted to wurm, and that bothers you, then yes sell and don't reinstall. If you can come to terms with the addiction, and manage it (strict times to finish each night, or only certain number of hours) then it should be ok. I'm sure many of us have dealt with this at times in the past. Since it seemed you moved to Exo while I was away from the game during a real life move, I hadn't realised that AlexDunphy was you. I'm a bit of a lurker in freedom chat mostly anyway.

 

Well good luck with the sale whatever your motivation is. I'm sure any screenshots you have can help.

 

Actually on all my previous sales, this one included, I ended up loosing money not making any profit. On setting these deeds for example I spent/invested like 200 euros of my own money, not counting the time or the money spent on premium. So no, that's not a motivation - lol.

 

And yeah, pretty much every time I tried to quit, the main reason was the fact that the game just requires much more time then I'm willing to "invest" in a game. Problem was that I never managed to stay away for long (that's why they call them addictions :P); but (hopefully) this should be solved now that my computer decided to die away and help me in my attempt to quit - lol.

 

Unfortunately no screenshots since, as I said, computer crashed, but anyway not really much built on the deeds, so basically selling them as virgin land. :)

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Yeah, proof that I'm not infallible.   Just woke up so not quite as coherent as I probably could be.   Worth posting the numbers to see if I was miscalculating something and valuation is above where I set.   


 


I'm not worried about being wrong, always give my interpretation of value when asked or negotiating so that mistakes can be ferreted out.   In this case the valuation so far is not enough for me to improve my bid, but I suppose further discussion might do so.   I'd really need to see the deed before really evaluating it.   40s would be a fair buildout nothing to special.  For me the travel back and forth between my other holdings lowers the value somewhat.


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Now that you are quitting, what are you going to do with all of this new free time?


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This is an auction, not a discussion topic, so please either bid or move on - I'm sure you have better things to do instead of worrying what I'll do. Thanks!

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Transaction failed at that time, buyer backed off, and I just sticked a bit longer.

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You can still a computer at work. It's going to get really boring at work now. Keep on Wurming!


 


free bump!


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