Kingdom Alliances And Cooldowns

[Iorveth 12]

Alliances between kingdoms need to be changed:

Reasoning:

- White-light kingdoms are allowed to ally with each other and create Player Made Kingdoms from their templates; Currently 2 White-Light template kingdoms exist

- Black-light has no ability to ally with any kingdom even a Player Made Kingdoms and a Player Made Kingdom can not be formed from the Black-light template and there is currently only 1 Black-light template kingdom in existence

- Currently on Epic , the two White-light template kingdoms are constantly allying and breaking the alliance and there is no cool down on making and breaking the alliance

         - Proof of the alliances being formed and then broken repeatedly

            - Jun 30, 2013 9:10:50 PM  Mol Rehan forms alliance with Jenn-Kellon

            - Jun 30, 2013 11:49:28 PM  Jenn-Kellon is no longer allied with Mol Rehan

            - Jul 3, 2013 10:27:07 AM  Mol Rehan forms alliance with Jenn-Kellon

            - Jul 3, 2013 10:37:13 AM  Jenn-Kellon forms alliance with Mol Rehan

            - Jul 3, 2013 1:12:30 PM  Mol Rehan is no longer allied with Jenn-Kellon

            - Jul 6, 2013 6:26:35 AM  Mol Rehan forms alliance with Jenn-Kellon

            - Jul 7, 2013 8:48:23 AM  Mol Rehan is no longer allied with Jenn-Kellon

Solution:

- Add another Black-light based kingdom to the game

- Give Black-light the ability to create Player Made Kingdom with the Black-light template

- Allow Black-light the ability to create Alliances with Player Made Kingdoms based off of any template

- Allow Black-light to make alliances with the other template kingdoms

-Place a cool down on making and breaking an alliance between kingdoms(30 days sounds reasonable - because otherwise making an alliance between kingdoms for a few hours is not an actual alliance more a temporary cease-fire so that the enemy would be outnumbered and it can be abused too easily without a cool down)

- Remove the ability for template kingdoms to ally with each other

 

 

also only serious posts , try to keep this clean

Edited July 8, 2013 by Tpikol
moderation edit

[Evilmist 80]

+1 i didnt even read it

[Ord_V2 68]

+1 i didnt even read it

[Madrocks 415]

-1 I also did not read

[Evilmist 80]

-1 I also did not read

NOOB ALERT WEEEEEWOOOOOOOO

[Postes 5,282]

-1.  Sorry, just people upset that the game isn't going in their favor.  Using terms like 'borderline abuse'?  I don't see anything being abused, it's an intended feature for WL kingdoms to do diplomacy.  

 

A lot of the suggestions also just defeat the purpose of diplomacy and contradict one another.  Not very well thought-out.  

Edited July 8, 2013 by Postes

[Evilmist 80]

-1.  Sorry, just people upset that the game isn't going in their favor.  Using terms like 'borderline abuse'?  I don't see anything being abused, it's an intended feature for WL kingdoms to do diplomacy.  

can you just go away really ok bye bye

[nosfirebird 193]

every 2 mins? sry but no make it like convert cooldown can only do it once every 14 days

[3dSquareMan 146]

-1 didn't even read

Edited July 8, 2013 by 3dSquareMan

[Seviago 21]

only thing that is odd about the situation is that the very nature of an "alliance" isn't one that is broken and reformed 4 times in a single week.

 

Diplomacy is cool. It's a very real part of war and conflict.  The amount of flipfloppy alliance, however, is dumb.   Ceasefire's have minimum times ususally and not an 'at will' sort of agreement. 

 

Adding a more complex and timed manner of diplomacy would solve any 'issues' with it and provide an additional layer of gameplay.

Edited July 8, 2013 by Seviago

[Saddist 82]

Get a BL'r to ascend and sure why not. I have to assume Nathan will have his own template one day so why not another BL'r aligned player ad well.

[Malevolence 41]

i have an easy solution just remove all the kingdoms and its every man for them selves then it would be deed vs deed pure carnage

[Kagrenac 812]

There really should be a cooldown, its ridiculous that there isn't

Oh, we want to ally with you for a couple hours so we can raid together, we aren't "actually" allied.

 

Its just a bit silly, especially since blacklight does not even have the option to ally that the other two kingdoms do.

[amberain80 290]

Don't you guys just convert people to BL raid with them, and then they go back to JK to their deeds as JK? Isn't that the same concept? 

[shankiest 1,238]

Don't you guys just convert people to BL raid with them, and then they go back to JK to their deeds as JK? Isn't that the same concept? 

lol

[nosfirebird 193]

Don't you guys just convert people to BL raid with them, and then they go back to JK to their deeds as JK? Isn't that the same concept? 

i converted by a bug and it glitched my deed since its not supposed to be in water and made it disband

[Postes 5,282]

Well this thread lasted a good five minutes... 

[Kagrenac 812]

Well this thread lasted a good five minutes... 

All the contentless JK posts really helped it out.

[Postes 5,282]

contentless JK posts

 

 

 

 

 

can you just go away really ok bye bye

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm... guess you read what you like, which is why bias posts and threads like this just go poorly.  

[Iorveth 12]

Removing

please delete

Edited July 8, 2013 by Iorveth

[Postes 5,282]

nvm i guess, moderators doing wacky things 

Edited July 8, 2013 by Postes

[thenewcndo 528]

-1

[Tryfaen 709]

The first time the alliance was formed it was to test some functionality, since then the two kingdoms have allied twice to do joint events, after the events were completed, the alliances were disbanded to prevent any sort of funny business afterwards.

 

There has been no abuse of the alliance system or any sort of shady business.

 

I understand that you were disallowed to ally a WL PMK with BL but that was a different issue and I don't see the need for cooldowns or other roadblocks to be put in place when the system is being used as intended.

[3dSquareMan 146]

-1

[Jberg 3,070]

Please refrain from starting a new topic of the same suggestion because you didn't like the replies to the original one.