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Sure! Here are some logs:

  • You finish this sermon by yet again praising Magranon and ask everyone to pray together with you.
  • Magranon is mighty pleased with you!

Above is the message you see when you finish a sermon, but the deity will be changed (Vynora, Fo, etc) (the last two lines of sermon). From there your character has a 3 hour timer before they can perform another sermon, not too difficult.

The second message is when .120 requirement was met - I am NOT sure if this message changes based on how many people were around or simply on a successful sermon in general. I haven't had less than 6+1 (listeners+preacher) around to check exactly yet. Maybe another player can fill that information in. [EDIT: see below]

  • You start to pray at the altar of Magranon.

That message is what you get each time you pray. Different per deity. 20 minutes between each of those. 5x a day unless the above has happened resetting the timer.


[2012-12-11] [15:47:01] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11835
[2012-12-11] [15:47:01] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01732
[2012-12-11] [15:47:01] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0677
[b][2012-12-11] [15:47:01] Faith increased by 0.0641 to 60.992[/b]
[2012-12-11] [15:47:25] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01756
[2012-12-11] [15:47:50] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.11849
[2012-12-11] [15:47:50] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01779
[2012-12-11] [15:47:50] Soul strength increased by 0.000185 to 25.10934
[2012-12-11] [15:47:50] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0697
[2012-12-11] [15:47:50] Prayer increased by 0.00518 to 37.2595
[2012-12-11] [16:15:05] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.10953
[2012-12-11] [16:15:05] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0718
[2012-12-11] [16:15:05] Body strength increased by 0.000099 to 24.256874
[b][2012-12-11] [16:15:05] Faith increased by 0.0640 to 61.056[/b]
[2012-12-11] [16:15:30] Soul depth increased by 0.000233 to 21.01802
[2012-12-11] [16:15:30] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11863
[2012-12-11] [16:15:30] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.10971
[2012-12-11] [16:15:54] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11878
[2012-12-11] [16:15:54] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.10989
[2012-12-11] [16:15:54] Prayer increased by 0.00518 to 37.2647
[2012-12-11] [16:21:22] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.11892
[2012-12-11] [16:21:46] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11907
[2012-12-11] [16:21:46] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0738
[2012-12-11] [16:21:46] Body strength increased by 0.000101 to 24.25698
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11921
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01825
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.11935
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0759
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Prayer increased by 0.00518 to 37.2699
[2012-12-11] [16:22:11] Body strength increased by 0.000099 to 24.257074
[2012-12-11] [16:24:30] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11950
[2012-12-11] [16:24:30] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01848
[2012-12-11] [16:24:30] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.11964
[2012-12-11] [16:24:55] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.11979
[2012-12-11] [16:24:55] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0779
[2012-12-11] [16:25:20] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01871
[2012-12-11] [16:25:20] Body strength increased by 0.000101 to 24.25718
[2012-12-11] [16:26:18] Soul increased by 0.000170 to 22.11996
[2012-12-11] [16:26:18] Soul increased by 0.000170 to 22.12013
[2012-12-11] [16:26:18] Soul strength increased by 0.000216 to 25.11011
[2012-12-11] [16:26:18] Religion increased by 0.00241 to 23.0803
[2012-12-11] [16:27:40] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12027
[2012-12-11] [16:27:40] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.11029
[2012-12-11] [16:28:05] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01894
[2012-12-11] [16:28:05] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12041
[2012-12-11] [16:28:05] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.11047
[2012-12-11] [16:28:05] Prayer increased by 0.00518 to 37.2750
[2012-12-11] [16:28:30] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12056
[2012-12-11] [16:28:30] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0824
[2012-12-11] [16:30:34] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12070
[2012-12-11] [16:30:34] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01917
[2012-12-11] [16:30:34] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0844
[2012-12-11] [16:30:58] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01940
[2012-12-11] [16:30:58] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12085
[2012-12-11] [16:31:23] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12099
[2012-12-11] [16:31:23] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12114
[2012-12-11] [16:31:23] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.11066
[2012-12-11] [16:31:23] Prayer increased by 0.00518 to 37.2802
[2012-12-11] [16:52:09] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12128
[2012-12-11] [16:52:09] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0865
[b][2012-12-11] [16:52:09] Faith increased by 0.0638 to 61.120[/b]
[2012-12-11] [16:52:33] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12143
[2012-12-11] [16:52:33] Soul depth increased by 0.000233 to 21.01964
[2012-12-11] [16:52:33] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12157
[2012-12-11] [16:52:33] Soul strength increased by 0.000183 to 25.11084
[2012-12-11] [16:52:58] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12171
[2012-12-11] [17:24:42] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12186
[2012-12-11] [17:24:42] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0885
[b][2012-12-11] [17:24:42] Faith increased by 0.0636 to 61.184[/b]
[2012-12-11] [17:25:07] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.01987
[2012-12-11] [17:25:07] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0906
[2012-12-11] [17:25:32] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12200
[2012-12-11] [17:25:32] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.02010
[2012-12-11] [17:25:32] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12215
[2012-12-11] [17:25:32] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0926
[2012-12-11] [19:17:10] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12229
[2012-12-11] [19:17:10] Soul strength increased by 0.000185 to 25.11102
[2012-12-11] [19:17:10] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0947
[2012-12-11] [19:17:35] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12244
[2012-12-11] [19:17:35] Soul depth increased by 0.000231 to 21.02033
[2012-12-11] [19:17:35] Soul increased by 0.000145 to 22.12258
[2012-12-11] [19:17:35] Religion increased by 0.00204 to 23.0967
[2012-12-11] [19:17:59] Soul increased by 0.000143 to 22.12272
[2012-12-11] [19:17:59] Religion increased by 0.00205 to 23.0988
[2012-12-11] [22:29:39] Soul depth increased by 0.000271 to 21.02060
[2012-12-11] [22:29:39] Soul increased by 0.000170 to 22.12289
[i][b][2012-12-11] [22:29:39] Faith increased by 0.120 to 61.304[/b][/i]

Log of faith gains in skills^


[2012-12-11] [22:28:39] You[b] initiate the sermon by brandishing your statuette of[/b] Magranon.
[2012-12-11] [22:28:44] You clear your throat and evaluate your audience.
[2012-12-11] [22:28:49] These people need guidance and motivation in their hardship. You praise Magranon for his glory.
[2012-12-11] [22:28:58] You explain how we all have our doubts and feel lost some times but in the end we will be saved by Magranon!
[2012-12-11] [22:29:09] You sense that Libila is brimming with power. Maybe you can channel it somehow?
[2012-12-11] [22:29:18] Today you decide to suggest that they desecrate an enemy altar.
[2012-12-11] [22:29:29] You have the vision that The mischievous Forest Spirits has spread out the Charming Diamonds. Woe befalls our enemies if we lay our hands on them! Vynora is home deep down in The Drown. .
[2012-12-11] [22:29:29] In distant lands there are enemies of the faith and people struggle to keep them at bay. You urge the flock to send these people a thought and a prayer.
[2012-12-11] [22:29:39] You finish this sermon by yet again praising Magranon and ask everyone to pray together with you.
[2012-12-11] [22:29:39] Magranon[b] is mighty pleased with you[/b]!

Log of sermon events - each message will be different per deity. But the first and last lines should be the same (only deity name changes) ^

I think it would be rare that you would get an exact .120 faith gain as a priest, without doing a sermon. BUT the problem is that .120 gain is not static. For example if you have 8 people there you'll get a .130 gain. and so on. Perhaps just some sort of.. "you performed a sermon, would you like to re-set your prayer count" button or something. Unless the 'is mighty pleased with you' is the exact phrase for a .120 or higher sermon. Which would be awesome. Checking my other logs..

OK it looks like that message IS key. When I performed a sermon with 3 listeners + myself preaching I did NOT receive the 'is mighty pleased with you' message.


[2012-12-06] [15:58:50] You initiate the sermon by brandishing your statuette of Vynora.
[2012-12-06] [15:58:54] You clear your throat and evaluate your audience.
[2012-12-06] [15:59:00] These people need guidance and motivation in their hardship. You praise Vynora for her glory.
[2012-12-06] [15:59:09] You explain how we all have our doubts and feel lost some times but in the end we will be saved by Vynora!
[2012-12-06] [15:59:20] You sense that Libila is brimming with power. Maybe you can channel it somehow?
[2012-12-06] [15:59:30] Today you decide to suggest that they pray regularly.
[2012-12-06] [15:59:39] In distant lands there are enemies of the faith and people struggle to keep them at bay. You urge the flock to send these people a thought and a prayer.
[2012-12-06] [15:59:50] You finish this sermon by yet again praising Vynora and ask everyone to pray together with you.
[2012-12-06] [16:00:22] You start to pray at the altar of Vynora.
[2012-12-06] [16:00:22] After praying you will start praying again.

Edited by Stargrace

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Side notes

There is no way to count how many people are in local that I know of. Your faith gain is the only indication of how many are there.

It has to be at least 6 people + preacher every sermon (for a re-set, you can do it with less) and the prayers only re-set for the preacher. (priest conducting)

Hopefully the post above is clear for the rest. Prayers also re-set when servers go down just like meditation (didn't want to forget).

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Ah that is good! Then I will assume for now that "mighty pleased" is indeed the prayer cooldown reset, unless someone disproves that in meantime.

If that turns out not to be the case, I can still check skillgain within say 20 seconds of finishing sermon and if there is 0,12 or higher, then apply the reset. That's my backup plan for now.

One more thing I need, is the message you get when you finish praying. This is the moment I've found triggering cooldown for meditation, so I'm sure it works the same for prayers. Also it happens only if prayer is indeed finished and not interrupted prematurely.

As I've read sleep bonus has no effect on faith gains, I will not be adding a tracker for it, unless wiki is incorrect on that?

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[2012-12-11] [10:24:59] You send your prayers to Magranon.
[2012-12-11] [10:24:59] You finish your prayer to Magranon.


[2012-12-11] [10:26:03] You send your prayers to Vynora.
[2012-12-11] [10:26:03] You finish your prayer to Vynora.

That's the message you get when you finish praying - different deity at the end of course depending.

Sleep bonus has no effect on faith gains that is correct.

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Thanks! That is all (I think) I will need to make this working. I really appreciate your help here! :)

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Seems to be working well for me Aldur! Yet another great release!!!

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The meditation timer seems to be a bit glitchy. It doesn't recognize a timer if I first run the program and then meditate, but if I switch it from doing daily logs to monthly, it will then recognize the timer (and vice versa if I switch from monthly to daily).

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I have just done it the same way you describe and... it's working. Does that glitch happen again on next meditations done under the same conditions (after restarting the program)? Does that meditation appear in the debug list? Was the medit skill listed in program at correct value?

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1. Does happen again, numerous characters

2. Have restarted a few times now, same issue - switching it between reading my monthly / daily logs fixes it. Could it be because I'm switching between two character logs? (Ie: I had issues having it recognize character A, I switched monthly / daily, and it started recognizing them. Then I logged to Character B, had issues, switched daily / monthly)

3. Does not appear under the debug list until I switch daily / monthly setting manually.

another issue with the meditation timer is that even after 5x meditation (max for the day) it has a 30 minute timer, it should be 3 hours after the 5x a day.

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12/12/12 6:48:33PM, Meditation, False

12/13/12 12:10:07 AM, Meditation, True

12/13/12 12:45:58 Am, Meditation, True

12/13/12 1:18:31 AM, Meditation, True

12/13/12 1:50:50 AM, Meditation, True

12/13/12 2:23:59 AM, Mediation, True

^ (and a 30 minute timer here when it should be 3 hours)

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As for the daily/monthly option fixing the issue:

It works like this: when you launch assistant, it scans the logs to get list of previous meditations. Same thing happens, when you change logging mode or to other character - this forces everything to rebuild itself. Then the cooldown is calculated. Once this is done, the live log reading code kicks in and it's the engine job to track and react to events and update cooldowns. This reading code is older and works a bit differently.

Has the program recognized any meditation automatically, while running?

If it didn't, you can turn an option to show all log events in the window. Then check what is being show in program when you meditate (or specifically IF it's being shown).

If you notice them there, then the only possible answer is, for some reason your system saves wurm log files differently than mine, I would appreciate if you could send me one of event log files (with some meditation events there) and I'll compare the encodings and other characteristics, also I need to know some system information if you don't mind: which windows and version (32/64bit) are you using and which country is it set to (already had issues with USA and Turkey in the past).

As for long cooldown, likely a bug and I'll look into it today. But the reason may be the same, problem with recognizing lines by the reader.

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Today it's working just fine. When I loaded up the program in the debug section it has the timer for 'long meditation' mentioned in there - it just didn't last night while I was actively doing it. I'll keep watching it, and thank you for being so prompt in replies! This is by far my most favorite wurm tool, hehe.

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I'm trying to nail the long cooldown issue as well now, already noticed some other quirks - uptime didn't update correctly at some point and a meditation was marked valid, when it shouldn't have been (the medit was 12 hours earlier while uptime shown 1 day 6 hours - so clearly not in the window). Again restarting fixed both.

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Hmm..

I'm getting a bug every time I start it since yesterday.

After Caching the logs it instantly crashes.

Not sure what changed to make me crash every time tho.

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Hi Trencal. First make sure you are using 1.2.0.6, as there was a crash situation in first 1.2.0.0 that's fixed now.

If you do, please tell me in what manner it crashes - do you get a window with "exception happened in program" and with buttons continue/close? If yes, please send me the contents of that error report.

If not, please use this tool:

http://wurmassistant.../WA_extract.htm

and send me the log it finds.

Hopefully I'll find the reason for it there. :)

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Publishing 1.2.0.7

- Bugfix: long meditation cooldown now is correctly recognized by log live-reader

- Bugfix: sleep bonus reminders won't fire when there was no meditation

- Tweak: sleep bonus time display will now just count up

- Bugfix: trying to close app while engine not running won't throw errors any more and won't prevent the app from properly closing

1.2.0.8

- Bugfix: uptime will not be incorrectly calculated in certain situations (it still may be on first program run, working on that)

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Thanks.

Seemed I may have the old version.

Works fine now. Awesome tool

Thanks alot!! <3

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Great. :) Then I'm moving on to next feature.

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1.2.0.9

- Timers Medit improvement: Time to next question attempt! (only for successful previous attempt)

- Bugfix: season end displayed incorrectly if there was less than 1 wurm day to the end

- New option: start minimized

- Update: some of the sound triggers for new crafts, more will come as they are found

- Improvement: validating uptime and wurm date via http check

Also, I suspect the actual meditation cooldowns are a little longer than 30 min / 3 hour, sometimes when I meditate just when timer is over, I seem to get wrong results (medit not triggering "You feel it will take a while" message when you'd expect it).

ps. I need exact names for Epic specific chat logs (the files themselves), if anyone plays there.

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1.2.0.10

- Added some proper exception handling for threaded code, now it will cause meaningful error log instead of "application stopped responding"

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Tried to download the latest patch but it doesn't work and times out (says to check my net connection, but everything on my end is running fine).

edit: of course 4th time through after I post this it works - nvm!

edit: still having issues with meditation, if I've meditated without the program running it won't read it from my logs if there's been no skill up, even with the "you stop meditating" message. So when I log in, it constantly tells me it's time to meditate.

Edited by Stargrace

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The important question is what the debug medit list show in this situation? Is that medit on the list? And is it marked as "true"?

And also is your skill shown correctly in the program?

Ps. If the medit, that should trigger cooldown, is shown as false, that indeed may be bug. But it also may be that 24h uptime window just reset or that this particular meditation was within cooldown of previous medit (I've tested, that those medits don't trigger cooldown, so I don't count them).

PPs. I have just meditated while program was shut down. Waited few minutes and started it, the cooldown is shown correctly.

PPPs. Assuming it's not on the list, was that character using monthly or daily logging mode?

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I'm dumb, I moved both times. Went and checked my logs to give you specifics. No wonder it wasn't showing, lol.

Sorry! :(

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Haha! That's no problem at all, I'm happy it's working as intended. :)

The only medit thing I'm missing now are question fail messages, for the question timer. It seems there is a hefty amount of these.

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I know this is not your fault since times are not exact, but seasons are slightly off. I had it set to tell me when maple season started for example. It says it's started now, but maple trees say it will be 'soon' - is there a time frame I should look at between when I get a reminder and when it actually goes live? A few RL hours? A few RL days?

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