Poll: Time to reset archery after the latest exploit has been removed?

[Lunt 0]

Just when you think the playing field might start to be getting a little more level, the exploiters come up with another way to get ahead of us honest folk. From using your bow as an uber fast bow skillgain bludgeoning weapon, to shooting your own enemy kingdom alt, and now tower guards who are on a leash and cannot reach the exploiter, the exploits have been too many and unreported to long to allow these people to keep their ill gotten skills.

Rolfs arguement in the past for doing nothing has been that skill decay will level the playing field over time after an exploit is removed. Now that there is no skill decay until 70 skill this is no longer true. This situation affects the wild server more than the two home servers, and unless the people of Wild want a ghostown with only the already established uber archers driving away any prospective new players, than they had better support some kind of rollback on archery.

Lunt

[Guest Dizzybot]

I didnt even know there was something going on with tower guards until this update. See, Im all for lowering peoples skill if they get caught cheating or there is some way for Rolf to know if the person reporting it has gained mass skill in the few days or so before, but I dont see why everyone should lose their skill if they did it fairly.

[Inventor 549]

No.

Also: Only biased choices are available.

[Guest Awesomefusion]

Most people didn't exploit towerguards and just exploited shooting same kingdom players and yeah I agree it should be reset. Or allow towerguards and same kingdom players to give skill again.

[Lunt 0]

I didnt even know there was something going on with tower guards until this update. See, Im all for lowering peoples skill if they get caught cheating or there is some way for Rolf to know if the person reporting it has gained mass skill in the few days or so before, but I dont see why everyone should lose their skill if they did it fairly.

For the same reason that MR home server is being unfairly affected by item decay when it only has 20% of the items in the overloaded database. Its called fairness. We didn't creat the problem yet we are being punished for it, especially when you consider that it takes the act of picking up an item to make it decay and disappear. My active farmer on MR home is being punished daily with dissapearing crops because of some abandonded settlements on JK Home that with barrels full of seeds that will not dissapear from the database because there is noone around to touch them.

No.

Also: Only biased choices are available.

The poll is not biased. The last option is the "Leave things as they are" option.

Most people didn't exploit towerguards and just exploited shooting same kingdom players and yeah I agree it should be reset. Or allow towerguards and same kingdom players to give skill again.

I knew I was missing an option. I'll try to add it.

Lunt

[Inventor 549]

Just another stupid suggestion. People will only find some other way of training it fast so you can call it an exploit, then what reset it again?

[Fooligun 591]

well, those options are so biased and unfair its stupid, what if theres 1 guy who didnt use an exploit and gets punished? then thats unfair on them so much its just stupid, what needs to happen is just leave it as it is, if people who exploited archery got it up that way then they did its unfair but its not fair to lower everyones skill

[Gavin 971]

I didnt even know there was something going on with tower guards until this update. See, Im all for lowering peoples skill if they get caught cheating or there is some way for Rolf to know if the person reporting it has gained mass skill in the few days or so before, but I dont see why everyone should lose their skill if they did it fairly.

+1

I knew this was going on and GM's have known for months, But of course as usual it didn't get fixed until after people have severely benefited from it (Well, I'm just assuming some have benefited from it)

Skillgain has gone through many up's and down's in just about every skill field, Life isnt fair etc.etc.

Just look at the FF which nerfed some of the best fighters in the game and turned there multi-month efforts worth of grinding fighting into a week or twos grinding. Theres absolutely nothing that can be done to 'balance' the playing field once and for all. This happens all the time and to just about everyone.

I'll just wait the the inevitable server reset, From then on skillgain does not get changed and we never try to 'fix' something that does not need fixing again. Till then we just need to live with it. Till theirs a server reset there will always be some people who have benefited from fast periods of skillgain, Or people who have had something they spent months up sped up 10x overnight permanently and all that effort thrown down the drain.

Either way as to archery it's easy to go from 40 to 50 skill in like 10 hours of hunting if you know where a few slow/diseased spawners are, Or unicorns or other animals that either move insanely slow, Or dont aggro at all.. If it was neigh impossible to gain archery skill over 40 or so I'd be a little more inclined to say yeah reset archery skill. But it's not hard to catch up at all. I am also a fairly poor archer: So I'm not benefiting from saying 'leave it alone' either, I know someone will no doubt come out with that argument..

[polan 5]

no...

if someone was training without exploit he would lost alot hour of work

don't complain be happy Rolf work on fighting system

[Gaeron 551]

Another exploit known to a few or to many? Like dizzy I didn't even know this was happening.

I know that there is the case of "if they don't know, they can't deliberate exploit..." ie me!  but if this was a major issue why can the Dev team not put out a statement, such as "no archery skill grinding on tower guards" in the same way they still have the "no using a bow as a melee weapon" statement.

[Lunt 0]

no...

if someone was training without exploit he would lost alot hour of work

You mean like how I lost how 6-8 hours of terraforming work because of this weeks terrain rollback after the server crashed the first time this week? Or do you mean like how I lost hours of work harvesting grapes yesterday because the the server crashed last night, and almost all the grapes I harvested fell victum to the "excelerated decay FEATURE" when I was finally able to log back on this morning.

I wouldn't care about all the exploit crap if Rolf would just upgrade/fix the MR home server so it doesn't crash three times a week, but he doesn't seem to care if he's losing players because of it. Maybe he just doesn't realize that this crap has a delayed reation to subscription loses, only taking affect when the people have to resub at the end of thier month.

Lunt

[Erazor 0]

I'd actually pay for my own subscription again if rolf would finally take a stand like he did with the shieldgain abuse and set everyones down to 40 archery/ 30 bow.... archery target levels.

This is the biggest game killer for me and a lot of other folks... next to farwalker bullshat.

[MetalDragon 1630]

Is it possible to load a towerguard with over 100 arrow shafts? or did they just kill constantly our of their range?

[polan 5]

I wouldn't care about all the exploit crap if Rolf would just upgrade/fix the MR home server so it doesn't crash three times a week, but he doesn't seem to care if he's losing players because of it. 

Lunt

go to rolf blog

it's problem of server wich he rent not his (same server wich hold other server... for some reason only mr crash as I undesrstand blog)

[Guest Ramma]

No.

Also: Only biased choices are available.

Reset and remove all skill gained from tower guards of eather kingdom... wink.

[longshanks 45]

i aint trained archery for months so no to reset ,i did not even know about this exploit until i seen it on news

[Doctorchaos 0]

No.

Also: Only biased choices are available.

Reset and remove all skill gained from tower guards of eather kingdom... wink.

Well, I never used that exploit, even though I knew about it. It was an easy way to get skill. That was too dumb and should never have been added in the first place.

but i guess rolf wont know who exploited or not really.

but thinking back it wasnt an exploit rolf actualy added that.

[Guest demondan]

GODAMMIT ANOTHER ARCHERY EXPLOIT

Im getting sick and tired of these dam archery exploits when im still trying to get 70 without them.

NO! i dont want the archery reset, i will not lose months of gaining archery to go because fat tards dont want to play by the rules, Im with Dizzy all the way

[Erazor 0]

How about you nay sayers take one for the team.

How many more people you want to leave? Whats the avg number of people that still log on during US primetime ... 60?   

I know during my prime time it ranges between 20-30 ... Often i'm just sitting there with beelzebub & corbin with 10 others online. Those are quite low numbers.

Yea.. continue to be stubborn about it - as long as your having fun its all great.  Fact is, there may be only a small handfull that can say they they did not, or only very little, benefit from farked up archery mechanics.

[Top 0]

if archery is reset i want fighting reset.

[Lunt 0]

if archery is reset i want fighting reset.

Amen. And if fighting is reset people will flock back to Wild in droves, myself included.

Lunt

[Madt 1178]

Sorry, but what is this expoit? Do you mean skill off of enemy kingdom tower guards? Because that was intended like weaponskill off enemy tower guards was.

[Erazor 0]

if archery is reset i want fighting reset.

I'd be all for a general reset down to say ... 30 for those who are above that. Or 40.

[Guest demondan]

While your at it, Reduce all weapon and shields skill to 20, for we all know people abusing the tower guards and shield gain exploit (but at the time wasnt exploit so im not takin a stab at ya).

So everyone can take one for the team not just archery  >

[Erazor 0]

While your at it, Reduce all weapon and shields skill to 20, for we all know people abusing the tower guards and shield gain exploit (but at the time wasnt exploit so im not takin a stab at ya).

So everyone can take one for the team not just archery  >

exactly