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Why not make shieldbashing require you to be in aggressive mode and your skill in agg would add to the % to hit. If your trying to knock someone over with your shield your not going to be blocking with it as effectively so the penalty would make sense.

Likewise you should get a bonus to avoid getting bashes while in defensive mode (skill in def would raise %). If your focused on defense it makes sense you could more easily avoid a bash.

I don't think the issue is how often you get bashed but rather that the is currently no defense against it. The cooldown does nothing, as a group can just take turns bashing you now for the same effect. If you can counter in def (depending on your skill) the attackers would have to change strategies or be happy to dictate your fight style by forcing you to defend (of course the bashers would be more vulnerable in agg mode).

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Why not make shieldbashing require you to be in aggressive mode and your skill in agg would add to the % to hit.

Why would you wield a shield while in aggressive mode?

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Why not make shieldbashing require you to be in aggressive mode and your skill in agg would add to the % to hit.

Why would you wield a shield while in aggressive mode?

Because you do more dmg in Agg and still block with your shield...

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Definitely blocking more in defensive mode, as should happen I guess but shields seem to be taking a lot of damage in the process.

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they damage more because your blocking 90000 animal attacks every second lmao

from one animal

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I'm still a bit miffed at the changes that made various skills easier to gain, notably shield and subskill, as I put alot of effort into those and nearly had both at max, but I guess I should be used to those kind of changes now - I just hope crafting skills are never made any easier to gain, at least so far that has been left alone in the skill gain department.

Welcome to Wurm ;D Ive lost count of the number of skills Ive seen change gain rates over the years. Course thats only considering the intended gain rates... the lockpicking fiasco still ticks me off when I think of it.

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I have played on a character with over 70FS and one with 25FS and these have been my findings:

I think you have balanced the animals quite nicely. Trolls are actually as tough as the trolls that I picture from Lord of the Rings. Age seems to play a huge factor which I like. Maybe decrease their attack speed a tiny bit though, when I make a bad move against a spider it can(and usually does) hit me 3-4 times and take a huge chunk out of my life and if I am not on horseback that can spell certain death, and there is nothing I can do to prevent this from happening.

I do think that tower guards are still a bit too difficult, and even though I have not tested it yet I assume deed guards received the same buffs and need to be tuned down as well.

Animals armor glance rate is too high. My 85ql longsword should not be glancing off of a young wolfs fur.

Blocking needs to be slightly increased in normal mode (at least for a few months until people can get defensive mode trained up a bit more) or damage needs to be slightly increased in defensive mode.

Weapon sub skill gain needs to be increased significantly and overall skill needs to be looked at because some people are getting crazy gains on overall skill and next to nothing for sub skill.

Axes still suck and need either a speed upgrade or a damage upgrade.

Studded needs a speed upgrade or a damage reduction upgrade, the previous one was not enough.

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The glance rate on animals is too high. Tower guards are also quite deadly now, they move very fast, they chase you for a long time, they can target you from far away, they seem to have some kinda of scale armour, and now they hit much faster. With all the towers on wild this makes moving in enemy lands more difficult.

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Are they naked or spawning with gear on? They are equipable already, just have to be given stuff.

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Weapon sub skill gain needs to be increased significantly and overall skill needs to be looked at because some people are getting crazy gains on overall skill and next to nothing for sub skill.

I do agree people gaining fast overall needs to be looked at, but disagree ENTIRELY that weapon sub skill needs to be increased, it's already one of the fastest skills in the game (..when working properly, don't know about recent update)

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if axes still suck, give them higher crit hit chance instead, too many damage buffs and they'll be one hitting people, and you can't really make weapons anymore faster.

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Still think stud/chain armour needs redone, it's far too weak now.

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Weapon sub skill gain needs to be increased significantly and overall skill needs to be looked at because some people are getting crazy gains on overall skill and next to nothing for sub skill.

I do agree people gaining fast overall needs to be looked at, but disagree ENTIRELY that weapon sub skill needs to be increased, it's already one of the fastest skills in the game (..when working properly, don't know about recent update)

You shouldn't be fearing too much about people being able to catch up to your overall weapon skills.

Remember, overall weapon skills moved almost in line with a single weapon sub skill pre-ff. So it wouldn't hurt, if they are actually adjusted a bit, even though its late.

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Weapon sub skill gain needs to be increased significantly and overall skill needs to be looked at because some people are getting crazy gains on overall skill and next to nothing for sub skill.

I do agree people gaining fast overall needs to be looked at, but disagree ENTIRELY that weapon sub skill needs to be increased, it's already one of the fastest skills in the game (..when working properly, don't know about recent update)

You shouldn't be fearing too much about people being able to catch up to your overall weapon skills.

Remember, overall weapon skills moved almost in line with a single weapon sub skill pre-ff. So it wouldn't hurt, if they are actually adjusted a bit, even though its late.

Gavin, weapon sub-skill gain is almost nonexistent now. I think it must be bugged as it is, and needs to be fixed.

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Normal mode gains have been dropped to almost zero. I shield trained for hours and gained .01. I go hunting and not even get a tick.

I noticed that shield gains had been increased by alot. I gained 2.2 overall Shields and .9LMS in one shield session, but it seems to be reduced back to prior levels, last night I trained for the same period of time and gained .7 overall Shields and .26 LMS...

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Weapon sub skill gain needs to be increased significantly and overall skill needs to be looked at because some people are getting crazy gains on overall skill and next to nothing for sub skill.

I do agree people gaining fast overall needs to be looked at, but disagree ENTIRELY that weapon sub skill needs to be increased, it's already one of the fastest skills in the game (..when working properly, don't know about recent update)

Sounds good to me, just bring it back to preupdate levels.

And higher crit rate with Axes? I like that idea a lot.

Also, please please please boost studded in either speed or damage reduction, preferably both!

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Normal mode gains have been dropped to almost zero. I shield trained for hours and gained .01. I go hunting and not even get a tick.

I got the same for defensive fighting, its down to 0,01-0,02 in over 4 hours of training, the skillgains for those two fighting styles are in no way faster like the update said, its the opposite now. I think aggressive is still ok, but thats because its quite lower than defensive for me.

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My defensive skillgains over a couple of hours on SB. Are you people taking into consideration that there is a animal skill cap after around 20 minutes of fighting when skilling Fighting Subskills?

[19:52:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.847
[19:53:12] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.858
[19:54:27] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.869
[19:54:41] Shields increased by 0.0125 to 44.894
[19:54:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.881
[19:55:02] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.892
[19:55:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.903
[19:55:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.914
[19:56:11] Shields increased by 0.0125 to 44.907
[19:56:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.926
[19:56:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.937
[19:57:04] Shields increased by 0.0135 to 44.920
[19:57:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.948
[19:57:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.959
[19:57:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.971
[19:58:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0113 to 42.982
[19:58:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 42.993
[19:58:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.005
[19:58:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.016
[19:58:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.027
[19:58:48] Shields increased by 0.0125 to 44.933
[19:58:56] Mind speed increased by 0.0100 to 28.474
[19:58:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.038
[19:59:07] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.049
[19:59:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.061
[19:59:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.072
[19:59:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.083
[20:00:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.094
[20:00:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.105
[20:00:36] Shields increased by 0.0104 to 44.943
[20:00:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.117
[20:01:02] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.128
[20:01:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.139
[20:01:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.150
[20:01:34] Shields increased by 0.0125 to 44.955
[20:01:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.161
[20:01:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.173
[20:02:07] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.184
[20:02:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.195
[20:02:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0112 to 43.206
[20:02:47] Mind speed increased by 0.0100 to 28.484
[20:03:05] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.217
[20:03:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.228
[20:03:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.239
[20:03:41] Shields increased by 0.0125 to 44.968
[20:03:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.251
[20:04:05] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.262
[20:04:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.273
[20:04:32] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.284
[20:04:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.295
[20:10:03] Shields increased by 0.0104 to 44.978
[20:10:08] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.306
[20:10:38] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.317
[20:10:38] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 78.777
[20:11:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.328
[20:11:39] Shields increased by 0.0104 to 44.989
[20:11:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.339
[20:12:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.351
[20:12:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.362
[20:13:02] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.373
[20:13:12] Shields increased by 0.0104 to 44.999
[20:13:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.384
[20:13:53] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.395
[20:14:19] Shields increased by 0.0104 to 45.009
[20:14:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.406
[20:14:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.417
[20:15:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.428
[20:15:12] Mind speed increased by 0.0100 to 28.494
[20:15:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0111 to 43.439
[20:15:38] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.450
[20:15:58] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 41.512
[20:16:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.461
[20:16:04] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.022
[20:16:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.472
[20:16:25] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.483
[20:16:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.494
[20:17:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.505
[20:17:06] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.034
[20:17:08] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.273
[20:17:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.516
[20:17:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.527
[20:17:36] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.538
[20:17:36] Shields increased by 0.0135 to 45.048
[20:17:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.549
[20:17:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.560
[20:18:06] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.571
[20:18:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.582
[20:18:26] Large metal shield increased by 0.0102 to 78.787
[20:18:37] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.060
[20:18:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.593
[20:18:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.604
[20:19:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.615
[20:19:27] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.626
[20:20:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.637
[20:20:09] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0110 to 43.648
[20:20:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.659
[20:20:31] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.504
[20:20:31] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.072
[20:20:39] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 78.798
[20:21:30] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.085
[20:22:42] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.670
[20:22:42] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.097
[20:22:50] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 78.809
[20:23:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.681
[20:23:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.692
[20:23:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.703
[20:23:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.714
[20:24:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.725
[20:24:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.735
[20:24:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.746
[20:24:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.757
[20:24:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.768
[20:25:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.779
[20:25:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.790
[20:25:31] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.801
[20:25:31] Shields increased by 0.0134 to 45.111
[20:25:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.812
[20:26:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.823
[20:26:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.834
[20:26:52] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.844
[20:27:04] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.514
[20:27:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.855
[20:27:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.866
[20:27:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0109 to 43.877
[20:27:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.888
[20:27:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.899
[20:27:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.909
[20:28:10] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.920
[20:28:20] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.123
[20:28:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.931
[20:28:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.942
[20:28:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.953
[20:29:13] Shields increased by 0.0134 to 45.136
[20:29:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.964
[20:29:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.974
[20:29:33] Mind increased by 0.0100 to 41.522
[20:29:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.985
[20:30:05] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 43.996
[20:30:15] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 78.820
[20:30:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.007
[20:30:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.018
[20:30:59] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.028
[20:31:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.039
[20:31:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.050
[20:32:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.061
[20:32:12] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.071
[20:32:12] Shields increased by 0.0134 to 45.150
[20:32:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.082
[20:32:45] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.524
[20:32:45] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.093
[20:32:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0108 to 44.104
[20:32:55] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 78.831
[20:33:08] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.162
[20:33:28] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.115
[20:33:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.125
[20:33:51] Shields increased by 0.0124 to 45.175
[20:33:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.136
[20:33:59] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.147
[20:34:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.157
[20:34:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.168
[20:34:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.179
[20:34:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.190
[20:34:55] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.187
[20:35:06] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.200
[20:35:22] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 78.841
[20:35:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.211
[20:35:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.222
[20:35:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.232
[20:36:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.243
[20:36:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.254
[20:36:25] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.264
[20:36:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.275
[20:36:44] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.284
[20:36:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.286
[20:37:31] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.297
[20:37:42] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.307
[20:37:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.318
[20:38:05] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.329
[20:38:13] Mind speed increased by 0.0103 to 28.534
[20:38:28] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0107 to 44.339
[20:38:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.350
[20:38:57] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.360
[20:39:12] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.371
[20:39:13] Shields increased by 0.0103 to 45.197
[20:39:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.382
[20:39:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.392
[20:39:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.403
[20:39:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.414
[20:39:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.424
[20:40:10] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.435
[20:40:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.445
[20:40:47] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.210
[20:40:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.456
[20:41:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.467
[20:41:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.477
[20:41:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.488
[20:41:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.498
[20:41:56] Body control increased by 0.0100 to 42.308
[20:42:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.509
[20:42:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.520
[20:42:40] Shields increased by 0.0134 to 45.223
[20:42:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.530
[20:43:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.541
[20:43:09] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.544
[20:43:18] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.235
[20:43:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.551
[20:43:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0106 to 44.562
[20:44:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.572
[20:44:23] Large metal shield increased by 0.0111 to 78.853
[20:44:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.583
[20:44:26] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.248
[20:44:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.593
[20:45:08] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.604
[20:45:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.614
[20:45:18] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.260
[20:45:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.625
[20:46:03] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 41.532
[20:46:20] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.272
[20:46:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.636
[20:46:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.646
[20:47:10] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.657
[20:47:58] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.554
[20:47:58] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.284
[20:48:36] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.297
[20:49:15] Shields increased by 0.0133 to 45.310
[20:50:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.667
[20:50:32] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.678
[20:50:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.688
[20:50:46] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.322
[20:50:53] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.699
[20:51:07] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.709
[20:51:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.720
[20:51:30] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.294
[20:51:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.730
[20:51:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.741
[20:51:53] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.751
[20:52:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.761
[20:52:01] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.335
[20:52:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.772
[20:52:38] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.782
[20:52:45] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.793
[20:53:03] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.347
[20:53:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0105 to 44.803
[20:53:36] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.814
[20:54:07] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.565
[20:54:07] Shields increased by 0.0133 to 45.360
[20:54:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.824
[20:54:28] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.835
[20:55:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.845
[20:55:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.855
[20:55:11] Large metal shield increased by 0.0113 to 78.864
[20:55:31] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.866
[20:55:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.876
[20:55:43] Shields increased by 0.0133 to 45.373
[20:55:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.887
[20:56:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.897
[20:56:13] Shields increased by 0.0123 to 45.386
[20:56:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.908
[20:56:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.918
[20:56:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.928
[20:56:47] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.398
[20:56:59] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.939
[20:57:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.949
[20:57:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.960
[20:57:46] Shields increased by 0.0133 to 45.411
[20:57:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.970
[20:58:14] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.305
[20:58:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.980
[20:58:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 44.991
[20:58:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 45.001
[20:59:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 45.011
[20:59:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 45.022
[20:59:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 45.032
[20:59:19] Large metal shield increased by 0.0111 to 78.875
[20:59:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0104 to 45.042
[20:59:33] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.423
[20:59:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.053
[20:59:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.063
[21:00:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.074
[21:00:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.084
[21:00:19] Shields increased by 0.0132 to 45.437
[21:00:37] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.575
[21:00:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.094
[21:00:37] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.886
[21:00:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.105
[21:00:59] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.115
[21:01:07] Shields increased by 0.0132 to 45.450
[21:01:27] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.125
[21:01:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.135
[21:01:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.146
[21:02:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.156
[21:02:30] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.462
[21:02:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.166
[21:02:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.177
[21:02:57] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.187
[21:03:04] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.316
[21:03:21] First aid increased by 0.0132 to 53.201
[21:03:41] Healing increased by 0.0116 to 29.135
[21:04:12] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.897
[21:04:30] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 41.542
[21:04:30] Shields increased by 0.0132 to 45.475
[21:04:36] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.197
[21:04:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.208
[21:04:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.218
[21:05:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.228
[21:05:20] Shields increased by 0.0132 to 45.489
[21:05:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.238
[21:05:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.249
[21:05:43] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.585
[21:05:45] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.259
[21:05:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.269
[21:06:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.279
[21:06:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0103 to 45.290
[21:06:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.300
[21:07:05] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.310
[21:07:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.320
[21:07:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.331
[21:07:48] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.501
[21:08:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.341
[21:08:08] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.351
[21:08:08] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.907
[21:08:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.361
[21:08:29] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.371
[21:08:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.382
[21:08:41] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.513
[21:08:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.392
[21:09:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.402
[21:09:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.412
[21:09:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.423
[21:09:46] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.525
[21:10:55] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.327
[21:10:57] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.537
[21:11:23] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 78.918
[21:12:10] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.549
[21:12:58] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.562
[21:13:55] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.574
[21:14:30] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 78.929
[21:14:36] Shields increased by 0.0122 to 45.586
[21:15:39] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.598
[21:16:19] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.610
[21:17:17] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.622
[21:17:36] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.595
[21:18:49] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.635
[21:21:03] Body control increased by 0.0101 to 42.318
[21:21:03] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.647
[21:21:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.433
[21:21:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.443
[21:21:45] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.453
[21:22:06] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.463
[21:22:06] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.940
[21:22:13] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.659
[21:22:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.473
[21:22:49] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.484
[21:22:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.494
[21:23:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.504
[21:23:31] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.671
[21:23:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.514
[21:24:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.524
[21:24:32] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0102 to 45.534
[21:24:48] Mind speed increased by 0.0103 to 28.605
[21:24:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.545
[21:24:48] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.683
[21:25:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.555
[21:25:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.565
[21:25:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.575
[21:26:25] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.695
[21:26:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.585
[21:26:41] Mind increased by 0.0100 to 41.552
[21:26:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.595
[21:27:04] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.605
[21:27:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.615
[21:27:49] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.626
[21:27:49] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.707
[21:28:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.636
[21:28:49] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.646
[21:29:02] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.656
[21:29:02] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.719
[21:29:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.666
[21:29:31] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.676
[21:29:45] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.686
[21:30:09] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.696
[21:30:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.706
[21:30:28] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.731
[21:30:34] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.716
[21:30:46] Mind speed increased by 0.0100 to 28.615
[21:30:52] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.726
[21:31:32] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.951
[21:31:52] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.736
[21:32:09] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.747
[21:32:09] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.743
[21:32:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.757
[21:32:27] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.767
[21:32:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0101 to 45.777
[21:33:06] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.787
[21:33:25] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.797
[21:33:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.807
[21:33:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.817
[21:34:10] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.755
[21:34:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.827
[21:35:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.837
[21:35:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.847
[21:35:36] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.768
[21:36:06] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.626
[21:36:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.857
[21:36:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.867
[21:36:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.877
[21:37:08] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0100 to 45.887
[21:37:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0200 to 45.907
[21:38:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0200 to 45.927
[21:38:15] Shields increased by 0.0121 to 45.780
[21:38:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0200 to 45.947
[21:39:05] Shields increased by 0.0131 to 45.793
[21:39:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0200 to 45.967
[21:39:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 45.987
[21:40:14] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.962
[21:40:33] Mind speed increased by 0.0104 to 28.636
[21:40:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 46.007
[21:40:47] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.805
[21:40:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 46.027
[21:41:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 46.047
[21:41:31] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 46.066
[21:41:31] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.817
[21:41:52] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0199 to 46.086
[21:41:52] Mind increased by 0.0100 to 41.562
[21:42:11] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.829
[21:42:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.106
[21:42:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.126
[21:43:04] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.841
[21:43:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.146
[21:43:40] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.853
[21:43:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.165
[21:44:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.185
[21:44:22] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.865
[21:44:46] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0198 to 46.205
[21:45:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.225
[21:45:20] Mind speed increased by 0.0104 to 28.646
[21:45:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.245
[21:45:23] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.877
[21:45:41] Large metal shield increased by 0.0108 to 78.973
[21:45:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.264
[21:46:15] Shields increased by 0.0130 to 45.890
[21:46:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.284
[21:46:38] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.902
[21:48:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.304
[21:48:21] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0197 to 46.323
[21:48:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.343
[21:48:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.363
[21:48:55] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.914
[21:49:20] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.382
[21:49:32] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.926
[21:50:02] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.402
[21:50:02] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.938
[21:50:14] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 78.984
[21:50:34] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.421
[21:50:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.441
[21:50:58] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.950
[21:52:30] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.656
[21:52:40] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.962
[21:53:21] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 78.995
[21:54:27] Shields increased by 0.0130 to 45.975
[21:55:04] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.338
[21:55:40] Shields increased by 0.0120 to 45.987
[21:57:36] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.349
[21:57:56] Shields increased by 0.0139 to 46.001
[21:59:55] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.013
[22:00:20] Body control increased by 0.0100 to 42.328
[22:01:12] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 79.006
[22:02:48] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.024
[22:04:13] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.036
[22:04:57] Mind increased by 0.0100 to 41.572
[22:05:07] Body increased by 0.0100 to 52.476
[22:06:28] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0196 to 46.460
[22:06:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.480
[22:07:02] Shields increased by 0.0129 to 46.049
[22:07:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.500
[22:07:22] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.016
[22:07:36] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.519
[22:07:45] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.061
[22:07:52] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.539
[22:08:08] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.558
[22:08:18] Mind speed increased by 0.0100 to 28.666
[22:08:18] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.073
[22:08:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.578
[22:09:03] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0195 to 46.597
[22:09:13] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.085
[22:09:30] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.027
[22:09:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.616
[22:09:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.636
[22:10:05] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.097
[22:10:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.655
[22:10:34] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.360
[22:10:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.675
[22:10:50] Shields increased by 0.0129 to 46.110
[22:11:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.694
[22:11:38] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0194 to 46.713
[22:11:50] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.122
[22:12:22] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.733
[22:12:36] Large metal shield increased by 0.0110 to 79.038
[22:12:41] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.752
[22:12:41] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.134
[22:12:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.771
[22:13:08] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.146
[22:13:17] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.677
[22:13:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.791
[22:13:54] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.810
[22:14:21] Shields increased by 0.0129 to 46.158
[22:14:44] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.829
[22:14:49] Shields increased by 0.0119 to 46.170
[22:15:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0193 to 46.848
[22:15:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.868
[22:15:17] Shields increased by 0.0129 to 46.183
[22:15:17] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.049
[22:15:37] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.887
[22:15:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.906
[22:16:21] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.196
[22:17:02] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.209
[22:17:07] Mind increased by 0.0100 to 41.582
[22:17:22] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.059
[22:17:46] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.221
[22:18:29] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.232
[22:19:14] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.244
[22:19:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.925
[22:20:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.944
[22:20:35] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.070
[22:20:58] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.371
[22:21:04] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.257
[22:21:16] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.964
[22:21:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0192 to 46.983
[22:21:43] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.269
[22:22:03] Mind speed increased by 0.0103 to 28.687
[22:22:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.002
[22:22:24] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.081
[22:22:35] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.021
[22:22:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.040
[22:22:55] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.281
[22:23:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.059
[22:24:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.078
[22:24:10] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.294
[22:24:21] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0191 to 47.097
[22:24:39] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.092
[22:24:52] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.382
[22:24:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.116
[22:25:02] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.305
[22:25:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.135
[22:25:45] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.317
[22:25:59] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.155
[22:26:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.174
[22:26:34] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.330
[22:26:38] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.393
[22:26:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.193
[22:27:01] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.211
[22:27:01] Large metal shield increased by 0.0111 to 79.103
[22:27:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0190 to 47.230
[22:27:36] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.249
[22:27:36] Shields increased by 0.0128 to 46.343
[22:27:41] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.697
[22:28:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.268
[22:28:51] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.287
[22:28:51] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.355
[22:29:26] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.306
[22:29:31] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.366
[22:29:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.325
[22:29:57] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.344
[22:29:57] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 41.592
[22:30:05] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.113
[22:30:24] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0189 to 47.363
[22:30:42] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.382
[22:30:56] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.378
[22:31:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.400
[22:31:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.419
[22:32:00] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.124
[22:32:14] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.438
[22:32:20] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.390
[22:32:42] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.457
[22:33:02] Shields increased by 0.0127 to 46.403
[22:33:11] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.476
[22:33:11] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.707
[22:33:28] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0188 to 47.494
[22:33:38] Shields increased by 0.0118 to 46.414
[22:33:38] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.135
[22:33:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.513
[22:34:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.532
[22:34:42] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.551
[22:34:42] Shields increased by 0.0127 to 46.427
[22:35:30] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.569
[22:35:39] Body control increased by 0.0101 to 42.338
[22:35:39] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.439
[22:35:39] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.145
[22:35:55] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.588
[22:36:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.607
[22:36:20] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.451
[22:36:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.625
[22:37:17] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.462
[22:37:48] Shields increased by 0.0127 to 46.475
[22:38:48] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0187 to 47.644
[22:38:56] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.156
[22:39:08] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.487
[22:39:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.663
[22:39:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.681
[22:40:00] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.700
[22:40:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.718
[22:40:18] Large metal shield increased by 0.0107 to 79.167
[22:40:38] First aid increased by 0.0204 to 53.221
[22:40:50] First aid increased by 0.0132 to 53.234
[22:41:02] First aid increased by 0.0132 to 53.247
[22:41:38] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.498
[22:42:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.737
[22:42:38] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.756
[22:43:04] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.510
[22:43:18] Mind speed increased by 0.0102 to 28.717
[22:43:18] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0186 to 47.774
[22:43:47] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.793
[22:43:59] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.522
[22:44:19] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.811
[22:44:39] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.830
[22:44:45] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.533
[22:44:58] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.848
[22:45:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.867
[22:45:18] Shield bashing increased by 0.0109 to 29.403
[22:45:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.885
[22:45:53] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 41.602
[22:45:53] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0185 to 47.904
[22:45:53] Shields increased by 0.0127 to 46.546
[22:46:27] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 47.922
[22:46:43] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 79.178
[22:46:48] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.558
[22:47:23] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 47.941
[22:47:43] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 47.959
[22:47:43] Shields increased by 0.0127 to 46.570
[22:48:15] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 47.977
[22:48:34] Shields increased by 0.0126 to 46.583
[22:49:09] Large metal shield increased by 0.0109 to 79.188
[22:49:13] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 47.996
[22:49:28] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.595
[22:49:50] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 48.014
[22:50:10] Shields increased by 0.0136 to 46.608
[22:50:17] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0184 to 48.032
[22:50:40] Mind speed increased by 0.0101 to 28.727
[22:50:40] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0183 to 48.051
[22:50:56] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0183 to 48.069
[22:51:07] Shields increased by 0.0117 to 46.620
[22:51:28] Large metal shield increased by 0.0106 to 79.199
[22:51:33] Defensive fighting increased by 0.0183 to 48.087

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The skillgain stall only applied to aggressive/defensive fighting, normal fighting was no problem. And yes, I always switched creatures after a while when using defensive fighting, as I said before.

At the moment im training again and now the skill wont even turn green and give me the slightest advance, maybe its because of the new change: "You need to succeed with the skill rolls for aggressive and defensive mode in order to receive these effects"  Maybe if we dont succeed with those skill rolls then we wont gain any good skill as well?

Or do I have to hurt creatures now to gain skill? (it was never dependant on doing damage before by the way.)

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I mentioned normal of which I did both penned and normal fighting. Normal has never been capped on animals like defensive. Defensive gains are the same as ever as far as I can tell, capping out after just a few minutes on an animal but still going up at a decent rate.

About axes, can't say I'm a fan of having their crit increased. Many people are for having crits removed in any shape or form.

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Well, looks like the gains are different for each person, for me its defensive fighting that wont move, for you its normal fighting then. One thing we can agree on though is the fact that its not really possible to skill those fighting styles at a reasonable rate for now.

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Defensive fighting gains just fine, nothing broken there.

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Just because its not broken for you does not necessarily mean its working as intended for everyone.

I can now say, with enough time wasted with training, that the defensive fighting gains are extremly slower than before, I always checked the gains before and now I gain about 0,02 defensive fighting in over 6 hours of training. Maybe the gains are good for lower levels, but its definately not worth it at higher levels anymore.

The update note was "Fightstyle skillgain speed increased", for me that means its overall faster, not faster at lower level and horribly, horribly slow at higher.

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I'm curious as well. In only a matter of a few hours I brought it from 20-30. My method is to fight a different horse in my pens each time that skill gain stops, which is after 5 or 10 minutes of shield training.

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