USB foot pedal devices

[Riffraff 11]

I bought a iKKEGOL usb double pedal today.  After setting up the software it has basically everything I expected.  I mapped the pedals to Alt+I and Alt+R and I can't imagine that would be a problem.  The software for this supports other modes of operation however, and I want to make certain I don't run afoul of the macro policy.  Obviously I assume the actual 'macro' settings section of the utility is right out.  The send a string (i.e. buffer stuffing) I assume would be just the the Logitech G series keyboard.  However, there are some other modes that would save a lot of wrist wear&tear.  The loop mode in particular which allows one pedal to cycle between two keys (say alt+i and alt+r) on subsequent presses of the pedal looks nice.  The mouse control options which allow mouse movement up/down/left/right also look nice.

 

For now I'm sticking to simple keys strokes mapped to the pedals.  But I would like to know what is/isn't allowed here.  Yes,,, I tried searching the forums,, but it wasn't very productive.

 

The software is ElfKey / PCsensor and can be downloaded for free.

 

[Karrde 395]

Granted I'm not staff so feel free to take this with a pinch of salt, and feel free to peruse the game rules. More kudos if a staff chimes in.

 

 

 The question has come up before on similar things, like Logitech's G software and their gaming hardware.

 

Afaik one is free to use any setup hardware or software, so long as it's not capable of running on its own. Long as it is NOT capable of running when a player is not present and in control physically.

 

Unfortunately, no personal experience with the hardware in question, so of little help there. I use far different, older pedals.

Edited August 10 by Karrde

[Blazecraze 662]

Using foot pedals for input I don't believe is against the rules, those disabilities have used them on Wurm before with 0 problems. As long as the pedal isn't putting in multi-key presses with delay or autonomy it should be fine also. 

[Finnn 3597]

Is this the future of wurm gameplay, point a mouse over something and roll with it for simple 2 action controls?

 

there's clear loophole in the rules about logic of actions, as long they are done by player tap and aren't tampered with... but that doesn't in any way limit what executes them and how, it's almost solid-locked by g-series and timings but leaves few loopholes while it's done and untampered by the player and it's actions and not automated, meaning queue of player actions can be done and executed in time but still be 1:1 action for action etc..;

 

that aside...;

 

you can probably use this device but in case you are using it and not looking at your screen, watching 2-3 hours of netflix and nonstop "working" on ingame something could get you banned if you do not respond to a botcheck @Riffraff

you'll probably be best to ask @Armyor write mail to gamemods@wurmonline.com, provide your best drop of information so they don't have to research and look into the w/e hardware that is.. and see what's their take on this, and maybe drop your ideas to utilize the tool ingame, if anything could be added to official post and needs wsa will be great, else,... you're probably 50/50 safe to use it, 100% until you get a popup you ignore;

[Riffraff 11]

44 minutes ago, Finnn said:

 

there's clear loophole in the rules about logic of actions, as long they are done by player tap and aren't tampered with... but that doesn't in any way limit what executes them and how, it's almost solid-locked by g-series and timings but leaves few loopholes while it's done and untampered by the player and it's actions and not automated, meaning queue of player actions can be done and executed in time but still be 1:1 action for action etc..;

 

that aside...;

 

you can probably use this device but in case you are using it and not looking at your screen, watching 2-3 hours of netflix and nonstop "working" on ingame something could get you banned if you do not respond to a botcheck @Riffraff

you'll probably be best to ask @Armyor write mail to gamemods@wurmonline.com, provide your best drop of information so they don't have to research and look into the w/e hardware that is.. and see what's their take on this, and maybe drop your ideas to utilize the tool ingame, if anything could be added to official post and needs wsa will be great, else,... you're probably 50/50 safe to use it, 100% until you get a popup you ignore;

 

Sorry to sound like a newb, but I don't think I've ever seen a popup in this game.  What would that look like?  Is it something in a chat window?  If so I'm in deep trouble as I don't even normally run with chat windows active except for one session (if that).  My normal setup looks like: https://i.imgur.com/pnObLqU.jpg  So if it's a chat message to a particular character, I'm going to have an issue with or without the pedals in the equation.

 

Thanks for the suggestions on who to mail.  I'll try to come up with some 'innovative' (but not already clearly forbidden) methods of using the options the software provides and submit them and see if I get a response.

 

 

 

[Ostentatio 2109]

20 hours ago, Riffraff said:

I bought a iKKEGOL usb double pedal today.  After setting up the software it has basically everything I expected.  I mapped the pedals to Alt+I and Alt+R and I can't imagine that would be a problem.  The software for this supports other modes of operation however, and I want to make certain I don't run afoul of the macro policy.  Obviously I assume the actual 'macro' settings section of the utility is right out.  The send a string (i.e. buffer stuffing) I assume would be just the the Logitech G series keyboard.  However, there are some other modes that would save a lot of wrist wear&tear.  The loop mode in particular which allows one pedal to cycle between two keys (say alt+i and alt+r) on subsequent presses of the pedal looks nice.  The mouse control options which allow mouse movement up/down/left/right also look nice.

 

For now I'm sticking to simple keys strokes mapped to the pedals.  But I would like to know what is/isn't allowed here.  Yes,,, I tried searching the forums,, but it wasn't very productive.

 

The software is ElfKey / PCsensor and can be downloaded for free.

 

 

Using something like this should be fine as long as it's sending what it's sending immediately, without any sort of delay, and isn't somehow sending it to multiple clients simultaneously. And, of course, that you're initiating it yourself by pressing the pedal or doing something similar, and that what you're doing isn't somehow disruptive to the service or other players, since that wouldn't be very nice.

 

As has been mentioned, unattended play would also pose a problem. Regardless of input device, you should be available to pay attention to the game.

 

4 hours ago, Finnn said:

there's clear loophole in the rules about logic of actions, as long they are done by player tap and aren't tampered with... but that doesn't in any way limit what executes them and how, it's almost solid-locked by g-series and timings but leaves few loopholes while it's done and untampered by the player and it's actions and not automated, meaning queue of player actions can be done and executed in time but still be 1:1 action for action etc..;

 

The rules are pretty clear here and there shouldn't be any loopholes. You're allowed to use tools like this, even to send multiple commands simultaneously, as long as they don't violate the rules stated by me above and in the game rules post. The mention of Logitech G series input devices in the rules post is only meant to serve as an example, not an exception to the rules.