Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) PvPers are tired of being segregated. Defiance was made with changes in mind that most PvPers advocated for. This seems to be the easiest path forward. In regards to concerns about the cluster: Portals should take you back to where you came from, so they shouldn't be able to access the other NFI servers. Only defiance. Edited September 21, 2023 by Camelrider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 let nfi portal to chaos do anything that will help pvp thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Yes please! The more people that can play together, the more people that will play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Votip said: let nfi portal to chaos do anything that will help pvp thanks No thank you. Chaos is near pay to win with tomes. Defiance has a far superior ruleset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Pukaria said: No thank you. Chaos is near pay to win with tomes. Defiance has a far superior ruleset. thats for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Sounds like a reasonable solution to me. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Sounds good, bring in the horde +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 How to then deal with portals from Defiance to NFI PvE servers, though? Obviously, a lot of folks would use this as a quick way to go from SFI PvE to NFI PvE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Schiann said: How to then deal with portals from Defiance to NFI PvE servers, though? Obviously, a lot of folks would use this as a quick way to go from SFI PvE to NFI PvE. I understand this concern, but ultimately I believe this is a development and design hurdle and shouldn't be a concern for the root of the suggestion. It shouldn't be too much of a task though, it's already coded and you just need checks for existing data. Currently the portals should only be portaling you back from where you came, so they shouldn't be accessing the other NFI servers. Edited September 21, 2023 by Camelrider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 +1 because this seems like the first step in the right direction for pvp, other balancing and changes can come later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Hmm, would SFI skill transfer back and forth from Defiance like out does on NFI? (The exception of course being faith, fighting, and meditation path) Would you want it to? What about bank balance? This would implement a way players could trade coin between NFI and SFI toons they own. Edit: I’m not disregarding the idea, so don’t get me wrong. I really am just curious to know what others think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baeowulf said: Hmm, would SFI skill transfer back and forth from Defiance like out does on NFI? (The exception of course being faith, fighting, and meditation path) Would you want it to? What about bank balance? This would implement a way players could trade coin between NFI and SFI toons they own. Edit: I’m not disregarding the idea, so don’t get me wrong. I really am just curious to know what others think. 1. I think so. Its both the same rates, accounts are about the same skill wise. 2. I personally have no preference here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 +1 I think this is the first thing I have seen the whole PvP community agree on, all kingdoms, on all servers, are asking for this!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 I'd like to kill kids on NFI, or at the very least let them teleport to chaos from defiance. You guys can have your PMKs afterall. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) shut down epic, turn chaos into freedom, portal to defiance, add pmks. make sure the pvp community is actually consolidated instead of half assed but +1 Edited September 21, 2023 by Carmichael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 also a new map is something i wouldn't be opposed to either. should also make it that once pmk's are in, anyone that is a part of that pmk can make the pmk related items to sell to freedomers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Would this be a one way portal? Since the only SFI PvP server is Chaos, which has an open crossing with the rest of the PvE cluster wouldn't this allow NFI players to cross into SFI purely for the purpose of accessing SFI? Just doing it through Defiance then hopping server? I mean this was my first thought, 'I wonder if I could my semi-defunct NFI player to NFI with all their funds intact, instead of waiting for a merge?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 so make it possible to craft defiance portal and just teleport to Defiance? Sounds fun for harmless pvp (stuff is kept there). What about skills on defiance? Do they stay with you, when you come back? Anyways +1 from me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Zenity said: Would this be a one way portal? Since the only SFI PvP server is Chaos, which has an open crossing with the rest of the PvE cluster wouldn't this allow NFI players to cross into SFI purely for the purpose of accessing SFI? Just doing it through Defiance then hopping server? I mean this was my first thought, 'I wonder if I could my semi-defunct NFI player to NFI with all their funds intact, instead of waiting for a merge?' You can't "just hop server". You are stuck on the cluster from whence you came, as you can only portal in/out of defiance and the portal returns you to where you portaled from. There is no sailing, and that is the current functionality of how it is implemented. So no, it wouldn't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites