Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) I am writing this because I do not understand what has happened with the Trash account. It seemed that the account was banned some time ago for cheating, I think I recall something about the forum account also being banned. It now seems that the ban has ended or been removed. I am wondering if it was some mistake, or not true at all, or there was some reversal of the ban if in fact there was a ban. I ask this because online, in a virtual realm reality is what we perceive. This creates the perception that some people can engage in cheating and then somehow escape the consequences. It makes it seem like the best coarse of action is to cheat because if you do not then it seems your efforts amount to nothing more than fodder to validate those that do cheat. There is no way to know if cheating went on or did not go on there is only perception and the lack of clear understanding on this creates the perception of some sort of nefarious deal making. So I am hoping for the sake of the integrity of the system that someone knows what actually happened and can give at least a rough account of it so that at least our perception can remain that legitimate rule abiding game play has a purpose other than validating the online ego of those that find ways to exploit and cheat. Thank you to anyone for any help with this Edited February 20, 2023 by DNR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 Alt account for challenging moderation, excellent. Thread 🔒 incoming 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 he got hit on the head with a comically large mallet and forgot he was banned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, DADLER said: Alt account for challenging moderation, excellent. Thread 🔒 incoming I guess you perceive this as helpful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, DNR said: I guess you perceive this as helpful This is more helpful: Wurm Online - Rules - GM Hall - Wurm Online Forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, DADLER said: Alt account for challenging moderation, excellent. Thread 🔒 incoming To be fair, it have to open for like a week or so at least, like another similar topic on this forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 i think its wierd, but breaking the forum rules wont get you anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Oblivionnreaver said: he got hit on the head with a comically large mallet and forgot he was banned this is what I heard too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 This is about moderation in general, a lot of people are starting to ask questions and it's the right thing to do. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Seems weird that Wurm censors player feedback. I guess that's why so many bitter ex players flame the Steam reviews. Free speech!!!!! 🤣 If it weren't a bad cheat then why not say it? Otherwise people may believe rumors' and feel really discouraged. Edited February 20, 2023 by Omar 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 I've always thought perma bans are to harsh. I know some baddies have had long bans and came back and continued, there's also players that love the game and get carried away. For these players a 1 to 3 month or even a year ban is punitive. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 So you mean cheat your brains out.. Take three months in the icebox and then continue.. Interesting perspective there.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 It's amazing how far people go on no evidence and a lot of rumors lmao 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 I heard he baked children into pies in his cabin in the woods. Dang witches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, KarlFranz said: It's amazing how far people go on no evidence and a lot of rumors lmao Weren't you upvoting every post your cheerleader squad was making about bogus moderation/no transparency and "unbanning the Non Toxic players" ?? How is this any different here? That's exactly what happens if there's no transparency people start to question why was he banned and why was he unbanned? Is staff involved? Is there any priviledges for some and not all? Is this game fair to play? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Atndy said: I heard he baked children into pies in his cabin in the woods. Dang witches. I do this all the time at my mountain deed. It's not a bannable offence iirc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, KarlFranz said: It's amazing how far people go on no evidence and a lot of rumors lmao I've just heard about a well known player swear black and blue they weren't macroing and believed him because he couldn't be that stupid when using someone else's account. Then seen the event logs that said otherwise. The only evidence we usually see is ban or unban. Forgive me for not believing anything a player says. Edited February 20, 2023 by Omar 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 I dont read this as about moderation at all I read it as a request for information 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 Well, there was no "We took out the Trash" Gallow's post, so why think he was perma banned? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Galatyn said: Well, there was no "We took out the Trash" Gallow's post, so why think he was perma banned? and 2 likes from Pukaria and Zykat Look at you guys running disinfo lololol Because many from your kingdom told us he was and that he was appealing it. They only do Gallows for a select few, so that means nothing. Edited February 20, 2023 by Omar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Omar said: and 2 likes from Pukaria and Zykat Look at you guys running disinfo lololol You are projecting a lot of stuff on me. You think I know what's going on?? lol They had a Defiance event for beheading the king and no follow up. That's weird; I'm not saying it isn't. I just also think it's funny to essentially call for transparency on a fresh forum account created to keep the OP's true identity secret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pukaria said: I just also think it's funny to essentially call for transparency on a fresh forum account created to keep the OP's true identity secret. Funny or really sad? That people are afraid to express their thoughts without prosecution? Edited February 20, 2023 by Ism 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 No wonder people post anonymously, look at how everyone is reacting. The OP probably just doesn't want to have to deal with this drama in game. They only asked what we are all wondering, (well most of us anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Ism said: Funny or really sad? That people are afraid to express their thoughts without prosecution? They prolly wouldn't need to be afraid to express their thoughts if they were genuine, rather than the attempt at manipulating staff while simultaneously slandering Trash that was the OP. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Pukaria said: I just also think it's funny to essentially call for transparency on a fresh forum account created to keep the OP's true identity secret. Funny or an opportunity to attack the poster and not the posted? I think it's smart. Edited February 20, 2023 by Omar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites