Posted April 20, 2022 I've done a quick reorganization and rewrite of the trans liquids page, to separate notes on usage and creation and to hopefully make it clearer how much liquid is needed in each usage case. Feel free to review to make sure it still makes sense. https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Transmutation_liquid 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 20, 2022 reading the page suggests the amounts needed are PvE on deed with a citizen : base amount PvP anywhere : x 1.5 base amount PvE off deed : x 1.5 base amount PvE on deed not a citizen : x 2 base amount I don't have much experience using transmutation liquids but it seems strange to me that it costs more for a non citizen on a deed than it does off deed. Are we sure that it's not x 1.5 base amount on deed where you're not a citizen same as it is off deed ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 20, 2022 I haven't independently verified that particular fact. The statement about it being 2x was added to the page earlier today by Sidereal, I just changed the formatting and wording. Here's my source: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) That's some fine editing, Ajala. Everything reads much more cleanly and the topic organization is vastly improved, thank you! I wonder if it's worth adding a note about the rounding weirdness? I don't remember the specific details, but I wind up using 6750 'quality-liters' as my target because I remember tiles being almost but not quite transformed when I used the (6700/ql)*solid_weight formula. May also be worth mentioning that perimeter counts as on-deed for determining how much liquid is required - I have personally verified this and it's certainly a little different than our usual expectations of how the perimeter behaves. And I agree, Explora - it seems super counter-intuitive, especially since a non-citizen needs permissions to do the transmutation in the first place. Although I haven't confirmed it with my own eyes, working with Draxxle last night left me with very high confidence level that this is in fact the case: one standard dose transformed the tile just over halfway, another dose of the exact same size completed the transformation. Edited April 20, 2022 by Sidereal 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 20, 2022 I bow to Sidereal's much greater expertise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Sidereal said: I wonder if it's worth adding a note about the rounding weirdness? I don't remember the specific details, but I wind up using 6750 'quality-liters' as my target because I remember tiles being almost but not quite transformed when I used the (6700/ql)*solid_weight formula. I think that's already in there under Usage Notes. Not my text, but I think it's what you're referring to. I've added a note about perimeters counting as on-deed too, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26 On 4/20/2022 at 11:27 PM, Ajala said: I've added a note about perimeters counting as on-deed too, thanks. I just removed this line as experience suggests it may not be correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites