Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) A good donkey today! My second for the generation 2 breeding group. Piccolo, male grey. [14:24:00] It is easy on its gear. It looks stationary. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Merlin, male wild grey donkey. Morgan, female wild grey donkey. I've had 3 lambs today, including this lil lad. Banjo, male black, [21:16:39] It seems more friendly. It seems vibrant. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Newbie, wild black ram. Madrigal, wild white sheep. Another donkey. Romeo, male grey. [21:23:13] It has a slow metabolism. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Gawain, wild male grey. Albiona, wild female grey. And a poor little failure foal! Bloodeast, male skewbald. [21:20:36] The legs are of different length. It looks very unmotivated. It looks constantly hungry. It seems to dislike steep terrain. It has a slow metabolism. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Tearally, male grey, 2sp, 2 draft, spark. Nocturn, female wild piebald. Edited June 13, 2021 by olafhairybreeks Sheeeeeps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) - Edited August 8, 2021 by Yserin no longer playing, Per the mismanagment of AH update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2021 I'm happy today, 2 good babies! Maxtear, male ebony. [18:39:40] It has fleeter movement than normal. It has lightning movement. It has very strong leg muscles. It seems accustomed to water. It is unusually strong-willed. It has a certain spark in its eyes. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Manflash, male ebony, 5sp, spark. Swiftswift, female ebony, 5sp. 4 speed traits and sparky on him, and only 1 bad trait. He's a keeper! Balletpepper, female black silver. [18:40:41] It has fleeter movement than normal. It has lightning movement. It has very strong leg muscles. It seems accustomed to water. It looks constantly hungry. It looks unusually strong and healthy. It looks stationary. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Manflash, male ebony, 5sp, spark. Benitabrisk, female ebony, 5sp. Not quite so good perhaps from a breeding perspective with those misc traits, but still a fast girl. Has anyone been able to do any speed tests yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2021 Posting this separately cos I've done a speed test! I have two adolescent horses, Fantasynorth and Starkcopper. I tested their speed with no gear, and I was carrying a load of 49.56kgs in my inventory. I moved as little as possibly from side to side, just enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. I stopped once near the end of my run and immediately restarted for each. Fantasynorth is an appaloosa girl and is an old 5 speed: [19:34:13] It has fleeter movement than normal. It has a strong body. It has lightning movement. It can carry more than average. It has very strong leg muscles. It has been bred in captivity. She went from 17.21 kph to 23.11 kph. Starkcopper is slightly younger but still adolescent. He's a blood bay male with 4 speed traits and 1 draft trait: [19:35:53] It has fleeter movement than normal. It has lightning movement. It can carry more than average. It has very strong leg muscles. It seems accustomed to water. It has been bred in captivity. He went from 14.11 kph to 22.27 kph in the same conditions. An interesting result! I wonder what effect the draft traits have on speed? If Starkcopper had had a different draft trait would he have gone faster? And what effect would the rare speed trait have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) - Edited August 8, 2021 by Yserin no longer playing, Per the mismanagment of AH update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Yserin said: anyone else having the water speed trait show up when the parents have the same 3 speed traits that could be passed down but one gets replaced? @CistaCistayou have a lot more breeding going on. I do see that quite a bit also, but I haven't kept count. It could be you are right that the speed traits are just rolled randomly, which would be dreadful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 15, 2021 I'm wondering if the 2nd and 3rd generations will make a difference to inheritance. I'm not sure how, but who knows at this point? I've heard rumours of further updates in the works, so we'll have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, olafhairybreeks said: I'm wondering if the 2nd and 3rd generations will make a difference to inheritance. My previous post is second gen, ive been breeding second gen for a week and its just as nasty and ridiculous everything is way too random Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 15, 2021 Some wonky babies today! First of all, my mule finally arrived! Orchid, female grey. [20:11:20] It looks very unmotivated. It has a certain spark in its eyes. It looks extremely sick. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Uthur, male wild donkey, grey. Zoe, female white, 5 sp. Then a rather grumpy donkey. Sad 'Thorn', male grey. [20:13:28] It seems overly aggressive. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Gawain, male wild donkey, grey. Prydwyn, female wild donkey, grey. And last of all, a cute little foal with a new name. Emilbone, male white. [20:15:18] It has some illness. It looks feeble and unhealthy. It seems more friendly. It has a slow metabolism. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Warnotch, male brown, 5 sp. Delilah, female wild piebald. I think I'm going to take a break from breeding wild horses and concentrate on the traited ones I have. I have wild donkeys and sheep to experiment with still! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) - Edited August 8, 2021 by Yserin no longer playing, Per the mismanagment of AH update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yserin said: You can not convince me that the game does not randomize the dominate category. What's important to note here is that the mother has 2 speed and 2 draft traits, so equal. The mother's traits are the most important traits. With equal speed and draft you must expect it can go either way. The foal inherited the two draft traits that the mother also has, deleted any speed traits and added a third draft trait. No casino in this case. Edited June 16, 2021 by CistaCista Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) - Edited August 8, 2021 by Yserin no longer playing, Per the mismanagment of AH update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 I can't wait for the foals to grow up so I can test the new generation of 4 speeders bred with each other and see what I get. Or 4 drafters. If the outcome will be absurd traits (draft traits from speeder parents or viceversa) then i'll quit breeding altogether and leave it to more patient people who can handle the RNG, will probably buy horses from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 I've had 3 donkeys with draft traits according to my notes. Braag and Piccolo have the 'easy on gear' trait so they're in my breeding group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 A nice foal today. Slightly unexpected colour given both parents are gold buckskins, but appaloosa is one I need to! Ragsbrisk, male appaloosa. [15:13:00] It has fleeter movement than normal. It has lightning movement. It has very strong leg muscles. It seems accustomed to water. The legs are of different length. It looks very unmotivated. It seems to dislike steep terrain. It looks stationary. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Huntingibn, male gold buckskin. 5sp, spark, fierce. Warriorchaser, female gold buckskin, 5sp. He'll definitely be a stud male once I've got his negative traits sorted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) I regret the effort I put into testing the patch. ty for your time. Edited August 8, 2021 by Yserin no longer playing, Per the mismanagment of AH update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 17, 2021 I bred wild mother bison + wild father bison(both with no traits at all) -> wait for it.. result was 1 traited young bison - no I AM JOKING, it's actually 0, again ZERO traited bison... as the only trait to that new bison had was "bred in captivity (0 points)" and no other traits to it... I am 90AH now... this was bred at 85AH maybe... at the very least 80AH.. but more likely 85 at least.. so.... how does lets say 85 ah player get absolutely no traits from breeding wild unrelated bisons? I do not even want to wonder here.. I am just glad to see it .. it was funny. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Its normal and not related to the patch. If people like you keep complaining about it and have it changed then people with no genesis dont stand a chance. Id rather have no traits and an extra breeder if i was starting out fresh than have something with 3 negatives id have to kill Edited June 17, 2021 by SmeJack 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 17, 2021 Two little grey babies today, a donkey and a foal. First the friendliest donkey in the world! Zephyr, male grey. [16:58:45] It seems more friendly. It has a slow metabolism. It looks more friendly than normal. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Pendragon, male wild donkey, grey. Guinevere, female wild donkey, grey. And now a Pie son for a Pie father. Pietari, male grey. [17:02:18] It has very strong leg muscles. It seems accustomed to water. It seems more friendly. It looks stationary. It has been bred in captivity. Parents: Pieice, male blood bay, 2sp, 2 draft, spark. Athene, female wild blood bay. I have no idea if they were born before or after today's update, but neither have bad traits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 17, 2021 https://imgur.com/a/W44WDp5 So I had a horse born today, can't confirm it's preudate or post either BUT he has both a speed trait and 3 draft traits. So far we've been working on the assumption they are mutually exclusive. Seems I got an exception here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, elentari said: both a speed trait and 3 draft traits Very interesting, I never saw that, so either a neat exception, or else they changed that mechanism with immediate effect somehow. That would be wild! I still never saw a rare trait either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2021 First rare speed trait on a brown baby horse. Mother was a 2speed, father was a grey no-traiter. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Wait.....so rare traits have a value of zero. Interesting. I initially assumed that they would "cost" a bit in the trait pool...Huh, go figure. Edited June 18, 2021 by elentari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Josso said: Mother was a 2speed, father was a grey no-traiter. I wonder if rare traits have a greater chance of occurring in offspring from wild horses. That would be perfidiously cruel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2021 +1 for the use of the word 'perfidiously'. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites