Posted May 20, 2021 Cog volume makes no sense when compared to a Knarr A cog should be able to hold more than a knarr, yet I can't even load a wagon onto a cog. Even the wiki page on Cog states "...cogs could carry more cargo than knarr of a similar size." and "Cogs could carry more cargo than knarrs;" The difference in hull size is very much different at a glance. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20, 2021 Cog already has good load capacity, and is fastest of all ships, and only somewhat harder to create than a corbita. The limited hold capacity should be seed as speed over load. Optical appearance should not be a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, Ekcin said: Cog already has good load capacity, and is fastest of all ships, and only somewhat harder to create than a corbita. The limited hold capacity should be seed as speed over load. Optical appearance should not be a reason. Disagree The Cog is a big ship and should be able to load a wagon onto it. If a small little knarr can fit one then the big Cog can too. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20, 2021 Iirc the weird thing with knarrs was they were super long, thus messed with volumes. Tbh knarrs shouldn't be able to carry that much, they're people movers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20, 2021 Historically, the Knarr/Knoor was the cargo ship of the Viking dragon boat fleet. The general superiority of Viking seafarers for centuries was based on fast ships, ocean going as well as able to sail deep into rivers, even be transported over ground. Their length made them fast (in fluid mechanics, the length of a ship dictates its maximum speed, unless it is a glider raising the bow over the water surface like speedboats). Granted that the load capacity of Wurm knarr ist fairly high. But kmarr traffic makes the lifeblood of large continents like Xanadu and Independence (mass raids in PvP with heavy loot to move may have been even more in the mind of the designers). Generally, I find the ship fleet design fairly balanced and would not like any nerfs, nor imbalancing cog over caravel. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ekcin said: Historically, the Knarr/Knoor was the cargo ship of the Viking dragon boat fleet. Historically the Cog replaced the Knarr. Boats should be rebalanced. Knarr should be given higher speed and Cog higher carry capacity. Edited May 21, 2021 by Kswords 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites