Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Some changes to shield bashing to make it more bearable to grind without abusing alts in pvp lands - Make it so that a mob being stunned does not interrupt your shield bash. If anything it being stunned already should make it easier to shield bash - Reduce/remove the cooldown, but make it so you can only stun once per 30 seconds, any shield bashes in that time will just be shrugged off but still give skillgain - Reduce the difficulty for passive/weaker mobs. At 1 skill it's extremely hard to actually hit shield bashes unless you starve a mob down to near-death. You could also make it so failed shield bashes have a chance to give skillgain until 20ish skill too. - Make shield bashing use coc from the shield - Remove the sudden drop in skillgain (around 1/10 what you'd get beforehand) at 50 skill. Edited January 3, 2022 by Oblivionnreaver 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 28, 2020 Is there any skill difficulty to shield bashing in Pve? I mean does succesfully bashing a troll give more skill than bashing a sheep? Asking the real questions here, so many years playing and I got only 50 shield bashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, elentari said: Is there any skill difficulty to shield bashing in Pve? I mean does succesfully bashing a troll give more skill than bashing a sheep? Asking the real questions here, so many years playing and I got only 50 shield bashing. I don't fight sheep so really can't compare but it does seem to me that trolls give the better skill gains all around compared to other lesser agros. I have no real data to prove that though. Could be my bias as I really do like fighting trolls. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, elentari said: Is there any skill difficulty to shield bashing in Pve? I mean does succesfully bashing a troll give more skill than bashing a sheep? based on mob body control and fat layers, trolls are low body control and dont gain fat layers well dur to being carnivores so theyre actually pretty easy to bash works like other skills if you succeed by too much no gain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Bump, as with the new rules making engaging in "pvp activities" on an enemy kingdom account bannable and therefore making the only reasonable way of grinding this skill against the rules as far as i can tell, would be a good time to look into changing it so it's not another massive window of opportunity. Edited July 4, 2021 by Oblivionnreaver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2021 On 8/27/2020 at 9:31 PM, Oblivionnreaver said: - Make it so that a mob being stunned does not interrupt your shield bash. If anything it being stunned already should make it easier to shield bash +1 for just this reason let alone all other valid points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Oblivionnreaver said: Bump, as with the new rules making engaging in "pvp activities" on an enemy kingdom account bannable and therefore making the only reasonable way of grinding this skill against the rules as far as i can tell, would be a good time to look into changing it so it's not another massive window of opportunity. oh god I didn't think of this please devs fix this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2021 bump, you're still skilling ~250x faster by bashing enemy kingdom alts on pvp. fix the disparity 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3, 2022 a comparison of skillgain, longsword at 97-98 is >2x faster than shield bashing at 53-54 (shield bashing the second it's off cooldown the entire time, luring mobs on alt to fight non-stop). Gains are with SB/full caffeine. At these rates, 50-60 would take around 250 sleep powder and a couple weeks of your life spent hunting nonstop. @Darklordscan you look into this seeing as shield bashing is literally a pvp requirement 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3, 2022 Please prioritize this skillgain fix. It would be useful not only for the pvp crowd but there's plenty of hunters on freedom side that use shields and bash mobs in combat as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 16, 2022 +1. Not only should this be fixed simply because it's broken, I think it would also help shields to become a less irrelevant option in the PvE scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Trash said: Don't be lazy you bashed alts to grind rakki and have pok+bonus shield bashing gains on defiance lol no need to be weird in suggestions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 12, 2023 pok+sb+aff food+vynora; no coffee or perm aff can't say I spam to get every possible bash action with the timers, grinding shields for memes, literally ** NOT using optimized targets for such gains or occurrence rate [00:26:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2139 [01:43:53] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3283 it's slow but effortless active grind Quote Logging started 2023-05-10 [00:26:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2139 [00:28:36] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2170 [00:29:34] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2201 [00:34:13] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2232 [00:38:01] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2263 [00:38:49] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2294 [00:39:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2325 [00:44:30] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2356 [00:49:15] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2387 [00:50:10] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2417 [00:52:33] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2448 [00:55:47] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2479 [01:04:34] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2510 [01:07:03] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2541 [01:07:46] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2572 [01:08:06] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2603 [01:08:30] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2634 [01:09:06] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2665 [01:12:10] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2696 [01:14:51] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2727 [01:16:13] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2758 [01:16:43] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2789 [01:17:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2820 [01:19:50] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2850 [01:20:48] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2881 [01:21:11] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2912 [01:21:28] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2943 [01:22:26] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2974 [01:24:21] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3005 [01:24:43] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3036 [01:27:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3067 [01:28:27] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3097 [01:30:06] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3128 [01:31:20] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3159 [01:33:01] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3190 [01:36:14] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3221 [01:40:13] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3252 [01:43:53] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3283 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 27, 2023 bump still bad On 5/12/2023 at 8:46 PM, Finnn said: 00:26:31] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.2139 [01:43:53] Shield bashing increased by 0.0031 to 50.3283 it's slow but effortless active grind it's extremely slow on pve yes that's the point of the suggestion. it's a hell of a lot faster abusing alts [13:33:58] Shield bashing increased by 0.0021 to 59.9469 [13:33:58] Shield bashing increased by 0.0041 to 59.9510 one pvp shield bash, no sb, no skillgain bonuses [12:22:13] Shield bashing increased by 0.0007 to 59.9608 one pve shield bash, no sb, no skillgain bonuses pvp shield bashes give triple tick size, chance for another tick with double tick size (pve has this but due to it requiring damage doesn't start happening until 20-30 skill then at 50 skill it's removed for some reason, alongside skillgain getting nuked like all combat subskills do at 50) and massively higher tick frequency, my logs have general mob-cide at <10% of shield bashes giving ticks because no mobs have enough body control/fat layers to balance difficulty against. that 80 minutes of hunting grinding you did is comparable to 4 shield bashes against an alt in pvp lands assuming stacking the same skillgain bonuses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 27, 2023 I agree with this change. Almost all the accounts that actually have 70+ bashing did so using enemy kingdom alts, and that shouldn't be a thing. It should really be brought in line to be grindable without that for how strong it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites