Posted August 10, 2020 Change: More server optimizations to reduce lag during high player counts Change: Added a profanity filter to names during character creation Bugfix: Certain things on the server (such as creature movement) should no longer run at a higher pace after a period of lag Bugfix: Fixed buggy human zombies being erroneously respawned Bugfix: Fixed items disappearing from the crafting window if their material type changes Bugfix: Fixed decoration items taking damage in containers on deed Priest changes (these changes affect all servers): Fixed bug allowing more than intended priest links at one time When linking you are now given a debuff that reduces your favor regen by 5x – this will also last for 15 minutes after you break a link The minimum favor before being able to use the Favor for linked casts has been increased from 10 to 20 This is a short term solution due to potential abuses brought to our attention over the last week. We will be looking at the way linked priests work and how favour regeneration works and adjusting it as necessary in a coming update. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 RIP whoever is starting out their channel grind on the new servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, DevBlog said: Priest changes (these changes affect all servers): Fixed bug allowing more than intended priest links at one time When linking you are now given a debuff that reduces your favor regen by 5x – this will also last for 15 minutes after you break a link The minimum favor before being able to use the Favor for linked casts has been increased from 10 to 20 Out of interest, are the people who benefited from this bug (60-90 channeling if some are to be believed), having retrospective action taken to remedy the gains? Edited August 10, 2020 by NeoAnderson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) I would hope so since the rest of us jsut got a huge nerf and will take twice as long to catch up Edited August 10, 2020 by Rhianna wrong info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Zekezor said: RIP whoever is starting out their channel grind on the new servers. This. The change means channeling is now a painfully long grind, that Linking is essentially useless other than for some of the larger enchants and rites, and most importantly anyone who already started their channeling grind is going to be insanely ahead of everyone else This is the sort of change that should be discussed about first before making and one that should've been made when the new servers were first CREATED, not several weeks into it. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Pretty discouraging given that I just started investing into my priests a week ago 😕 kinda pointless having multiple players with priests of the same religion now. Edited August 10, 2020 by Eirwengale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Out of interest, are the people who benefited from this bug (60-90 channeling if some are to be believed), having retrospective action taken to remedy the gains? Edited 3 minutes ago by NeoAnderson Yes very unfair.,.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Rhianna said: I would hope so since the rest of us jsut got a huge nerf and will take twice as long to catch up to BL Nobody in BL knew of that bug, to my knowledge, and I can confirm that at least the priests in our village have just done the good old link + grind on sb thing that has been in this game forever. This pretty much makes linking useless for anything but rites.. I don't understand why it was suddenly deemed a necessary change, out of the blue too so people who just invested in battery priest alts get screwed over. What is this fix supposed to solve? Players with bigger wallets having an unfair advantage over others? I honestly think battery alts are a low priority in that department. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 not a chance. I just don't understand why the favor nerf is being done. I get the link issue, but not the favor. This ruins batteries for good. BAD business. Tons fewer alts now. Was this the goal to cut down on server load? Another good way to cut down on server load is to raise premiums by 10x. I am so baffled right now. Sticking around long enough to see some reason and a rollback of the favor nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) This is gonna hurt Impalongs. Too bad exploiters ruined it for everyone. They could make the favor regen penalty higher as more links are added, like 10% per link. And the 20 favor reserve will hurt actual needed uses of links like global casts and 100 favor spells, too. Edited August 10, 2020 by Kelody 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kelody said: This is gonna hurt Impalongs. Too bad exploiters ruined it for everyone. They could make the favor regen penalty higher as more links are added, like 10% per link. And the 20 favor reserve will hurt actual needed uses of links like global casts and 100 favor spells, too. Yeah this outcome does feel a tad 'nuclear' - the problem is clear but there is a more productive solution available for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, NeoAnderson said: Yeah this outcome does feel a tad 'nuclear' - the problem is clear but there is a more productive solution available for sure Hopefully this is step 1, that a partial rollback of nerfs will come when they have time to discuss it. And world peace and a cure for covid will be here before November. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Today's priest changes are more of a temporary fix until we can sort out a better longer term solution. From what we could see the way linking was being used could not stay in the game as it was till then people where using it to get way to much channeling with absolutely no requirement other than having a ton of priest alts linked to them 24/7 which we saw was starting to become rampant. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 [10:00 PM] Ostentatio: regarding the link changes, there was a serious exploit with linking that needed immediate addressing So they should roll back those players 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Loggy said: [10:00 PM] Ostentatio: regarding the link changes, there was a serious exploit with linking that needed immediate addressing So they should roll back those players Yep - and they shouldnt be hard to detect hah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Hello refund my priest battery thanks 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Darklords said: Today's priest changes are more of a temporary fix until we can sort out a better longer term solution. From what we could see the way linking was being used could not stay in the game as it was till then people where using it to get way to much channeling with absolutely no requirement other than having a ton of priest alts linked to them 24/7 which we saw was starting to become rampant. Y'all really need to communicate more before introducing such changes. Please keep in mind that people will be incredibly ahead of others on the channeling grind due to this being available for two weeks (and before people cry out for rollbacks, i'm NOT talking about whatever bug existed, just normal channel grinding). So whatever changes you add, you also need to consider these people who will be ahead, and how to bridge the gap between them and people who have yet to begin grinding channel. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Olloch said: Hello refund my priest battery thanks sermon alts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Reset those priests to 1 channel, then turn off the favor nerf. Linking has been around forever as a way to naturally regen favor, rather than saccing all day long. I hate the waste of saccing. Literally my least favorite game mechanic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 Typical knee jerk reaction. gg. Guess I won't be needing my batteries anymore. Thanks for saving me money and you losing it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 10:07 PM] ʀᴇᴛʀᴏɢʀᴀᴅᴇ: Our first step is addressing the exploit [10:07 PM] Ztrack: Over market is competitive belivr it or not [10:07 PM] ʀᴇᴛʀᴏɢʀᴀᴅᴇ: From there we will be looking into potential abuses 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, RainRain said: Y'all really need to communicate more before introducing such changes. Please keep in mind that people will be incredibly ahead of others on the channeling grind due to this being available for two weeks (and before people cry out for rollbacks, i'm NOT talking about whatever bug existed, just normal channel grinding). So whatever changes you add, you also need to consider these people who will be ahead, and how to bridge the gap between them and people who have yet to begin grinding channel. This is only a temporary restriction while we work to find a better middle ground for priest linking being the only way to level channeling. Today's update was to put a stop to the worse case abuses while we take a bit more time to consider our options. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 (Resposting here, since it seems to be the right thread for it) This has got to be the most ridiculous and short-sighted business decision I have seen in an online game in a very long time. You have whales in the game. People who buy tons of silver and have dozens of accounts. You launch a new set of servers knowing they will be competitive as hell. And then 2.5 weeks into the server you sneak in a mega nerf/fix that specifically targets the whales knowing they paid a lot of money to be competitive. I'm not personally invested in priests, but boy would I be upset if I was. And I can completely understand any big customers wanting to leave the game (or quit trying to compete on the new servers) after being treated this way. Suggestion: - If you think this was an "exploit" then roll back all priests channeling to zero and reimburse people the money/silver for any priest accounts they'd want reimbursed. - If you don't think this was an "exploit" then undo the nerf and give us at least 1-2 month advance notice on the change. The linking system had been in the game for so many years it was considered part of wogic. Just like fountain pans. This is not a complaint about the changes. It is a complaint about how the changes have been handled. Please, for the love of god. Don't get your best customers pissed of and have them leave. Sure you have a lot of new people from Steam, but we all know that 95% of them will be gone in a month or two. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zaugurz said: (Resposting here, since it seems to be the right thread for it) This has got to be the most ridiculous and short-sighted business decision I have seen in an online game in a very long time. You have whales in the game. People who buy tons of silver and have dozens of accounts. You launch a new set of servers knowing they will be competitive as hell. And then 2.5 weeks into the server you sneak in a mega nerf/fix that specifically targets the whales knowing they paid a lot of money to be competitive. I'm not personally invested in priests, but boy would I be upset if I was. And I can completely understand any big customers wanting to leave the game (or quit trying to compete on the new servers) after being treated this way. Suggestion: - If you think this was an "exploit" then roll back all priests channeling to zero and reimburse people the money/silver for any priest accounts they'd want reimbursed. - If you don't think this was an "exploit" then undo the nerf and give us at least 1-2 month advance notice on the change. The linking system had been in the game for so many years it was considered part of wogic. Just like fountain pans. This is not a complaint about the changes. It is a complaint about how the changes have been handled. Please, for the love of god. Don't get your best customers pissed of and have them leave. Sure you have a lot of new people from Steam, but we all know that 95% of them will be gone in a month or two. We do not give advance warning on fixing things like this as it only gives people time to abuse it openly. This was more of an emergency change and will be reverted in the near future with an update to better fix the core issues that we could not address in the short term. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2020 How long is the “future”? This screws over even the mid to early level priest stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites