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krinos78

151 max dirt slope not working as intended

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At ele theres this "new" rule that On the Elevation server, u can only make 150 (or u could say 151)  dirt slopes in stead of the regular x3 skill makes 300 slopes. 

(This is probably done so u dont need to have skill 100 too raid pvp deeds who often have dirtwalls for protection. ) Ok so far so good. This is probably all okeyish and intended.

 

Normally when slopes become too steep (the dirt slope is greater than 3x your digging skill) theres this message: You are not skilled enough to dig in such steep slopes. 

 

Ok now it comes:

On elevation u get this message AFTER u get to 150. So u get the message at slope 151. Soooooo u can make a slope 151, but the same person cannot remove it.

(This is not the same with the regular 300 rule. If u can make a 300 slope u can remove it.)

 

The problem with this is:

With the 300 rule only the people with digging skill 100 could remove the dirtwalls that were 300. (Other than dropping dirt.) With the 151 rule NO ONE can remove the 151 slope. (Other than dropping dirt.) 

The solution of making a lower maximum slope so people with less dig skill can remove it, has become worse than the original problem. Because no one can undo a dirtwall of 151 on a mountain deed (as dropping dirt would flow). So newer players cant undo a 151 slope, while they would have had a chance to undo a 300 slope over time due to skill.

 

So normally, u cant make what u cant remove, and the message says the warning right in time. But with the 151 rule the warning comes after u make something u cant undo.

 

Solution is easy:

- Just make it like the 300 slope: U get a warning and cant continue when u get to a slope that u cant make any higher. (In other words, just make the max 150 in stead of 151, must be a 2 minute fix for a dev.)

 

PS: To make it clear im not telling the rule should be reversed back to 300. Im just telling: Let the ingame warning be at 150 and dont let people make a 151 they cant undo.

 

Thx for reading.

 

Atazoth

 

 

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Yes, and definitely keep the 150 rule instead of just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It'd work well if not for the 151 issue.

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4 hours ago, krinos78 said:

At ele theres this "new" rule that u can only make 150 (or u could say 151)  dirt slopes in stead of the regular x3 skill makes 300 slopes. 

(This is probably done so u dont need to have skill 100 too raid pvp deeds who often have dirtwalls for protection. ) Ok so far so good. This is probably all okeyish and intended.

 

Normally when slopes become too steep (the dirt slope is greater than 3x your digging skill) theres this message: You are not skilled enough to dig in such steep slopes. 

 

Ok now it comes:

On elevation u get this message AFTER u get to 150. So u get the message at slope 151. Soooooo u can make a slope 151, but the same person cannot remove it.

(This is not the same with the regular 300 rule. If u can make a 300 slope u can remove it.)

 

The problem with this is:

With the 300 rule only the people with digging skill 100 could remove the dirtwalls that were 300. (Other than dropping dirt.) With the 151 rule NO ONE can remove the 151 slope. (Other than dropping dirt.) 

The solution of making a lower maximum slope so people with less dig skill can remove it, has become worse than the original problem. Because no one can undo a dirtwall of 151 on a mountain deed (as dropping dirt would flow). So newer players cant undo a 151 slope, while they would have had a chance to undo a 300 slope over time due to skill.

 

So normally, u cant make what u cant remove, and the message says the warning right in time. But with the 151 rule the warning comes after u make something u cant undo.

 

Solution is easy:

- Just make it like the 300 slope: U get a warning and cant continue when u get to a slope that u cant make any higher. (In other words, just make the max 150 in stead of 151, must be a 2 minute fix for a dev.)

 

PS: To make it clear im not telling the rule should be reversed back to 300. Im just telling: Let the ingame warning be at 150 and dont let people make a 151 they cant undo.

 

Thx for reading.

 

Atazoth

 

 

 

You are a bit wrong here. On home servers you can make 300 slope with the digging of 99.66 - 99.99 effective. however same issue you cannot remove it by digging/leveling/flattering on it if you do not have a solid round 100 skill in digging. workaround as you said is dropping dirt on the tile below reducing the slope, if its the mountain, leveling the tiles below so you can drop the dirt..

 

However, with the solid 100 skill in digging, you can make 301 slope so everyone is stuffed. i think the reason for that is that 300 is still workable slope until you hit 301 and get the warning (or equivalents at lower digging skills). Same principle goes to elevation. 150 slope is workable by everyone, so it lets you still finish an action and bump it to 151 making it unworkable. If they reduced the slope to 149 lets say, same issue would arise at 150 slope. 

 

End of the day i get you, its hard to get dirt being BL priests :D

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 Well im talking about elevation. xD

 

I already stated that , but ill also edit to make it more clear.

 

Also i dont want them to reduce it to 149 and have the warning at 150. The warning should be at 150 and it should stop u at 150. Its not that hard, just the same as u normally get it at other servers when u hit max skill.

 

 

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