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Mint 18.3 (64-bit) jre1.8.0_211 (64-bit) unable to start wurm

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Been trying to start the game using different guides. The last one I used was from:

Howto install Oracle (Sun) Java JRE for Linux Mint

 

My game would always hang on splash screen.

So now I want to try the common solution from the forum, which is to uninstall all java and reinstall oracle (version 8?).

 

How do I get rid of all the java and IcedTea from my laptop?

I'm asking because if I try:

sudo apt-get purge openjdk-8-*

I'm getting:

Package 'openjdk-8-jre' is not installed, so not removed

Same goes for all other java 8 packages.

ended with:

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

 

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Cannot comment on that. I tried to get Wurm running on Opensuse Leap. It never worked on any Version since 42.1. (did not try earlier) as IcedTea refused to work with Wurm at some point, even if the necessary permissions were given. The webstart simply hung.

 

I installed Oracle Java from java.com as rpm. As it is not properly signed I have to override a warning every time, otherwise the installation works fine leaving all IcedTea stuff in place installing Oracle Java under /usr/java/latest (symlink to actual version). Starting wurm with /usr/java/latest/bin/javaws works perfectly. Only remaining manual work is the adaptation of the call in the starter (icon).

 

I would very much appreciate if Wurm ran with OpenJDK and IcedTea though as I do not trust Oracle and its Java plans.

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1 hour ago, wurmian20120510 said:

Been trying to start the game using different guides. The last one I used was from:

Howto install Oracle (Sun) Java JRE for Linux Mint

 

My game would always hang on splash screen.

So now I want to try the common solution from the forum, which is to uninstall all java and reinstall oracle (version 8?).

 

How do I get rid of all the java and IcedTea from my laptop?

I'm asking because if I try:


sudo apt-get purge openjdk-7-*

I'm getting:


Package 'openjdk-8-jre' is not installed, so not removed

Same goes for all other java 8 packages.

ended with:


0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

 

 

Upgrade to Mint version 19.1 this should help to get the latest java packages.

Installing java 8 manually on an older Linux is tricky. In general you can't just install different version updates on Linux distributions, custom version management is very complex and often breaks a lot. Upgrading the whole OS is usually easier.

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Took a while, but I'm on Mint 19.1 as you suggested.

 

Should I now follow for example this guide -> link as far as installation, and just replacing their 1.8.0_191 with _211 as the current version?

 

What do I need to do after installing Oracle's Java? (to install IcedTea?)

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4 hours ago, wurmian20120510 said:

So now I want to try the common solution from the forum, which is to uninstall all java and reinstall oracle (version 8?).

why uninstall? facepalm

 

mint as all debian derivatives has update-alternatives to select which java do you use by-default.

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57 minutes ago, wurmian20120510 said:

What do I need to do after installing Oracle's Java? (to install IcedTea?)

icedtea is an implementation of several proprietary things from oracle's java. You only need it if you use openjdk (or other jdk's possibly).

 

oracle jdk includes this things with itself.

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Type java --version and copy paste your result

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:~$ java -version
openjdk version "11.0.3" 2019-04-16
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.3+7-Ubuntu-1ubuntu218.04.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.3+7-Ubuntu-1ubuntu218.04.1, mixed mode, sharing)

 

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6 hours ago, wurmian20120510 said:

:~$ java -version
openjdk version "11.0.3" 2019-04-16
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.3+7-Ubuntu-1ubuntu218.04.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.3+7-Ubuntu-1ubuntu218.04.1, mixed mode, sharing)

 

 

Pretty sure it will not work with Java 11 have you tested?

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On Mint 18.3 with openjdk1.8.0_211 I could get as far as seeing the IcedTea splash screen, then confirm that I really want to run this application (Wurm) and then I would see the small Wurm splash screen.

 

I tried this in the beginning of my struggle in mint 18.3, and it didn't work - some error about the package no longer available:

20 hours ago, Eobersig said:

Linux Mint user here too, having no problems running Wurm on it. I'm using the PPA from http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.htm

 

 

On Mint 19.1 with openjdk11, and icedtea-netx 1.8 (available in Software Manager in my linux mint 19.1)  I get nothing past the IceadTea splash screen.

 

So, I followed these instructions:

How to Remove/Uninstall (Oracle Java & openJDK) on Linux

 

and I did get the:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ java -version
bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory

Trying this on mint 19.1:

 

20 hours ago, Eobersig said:

Linux Mint user here too, having no problems running Wurm on it. I'm using the PPA from http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.htm

produces:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ sudo apt-get install oracle-java-8-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package oracle-java-8-installer

So, right now I'm on Mint 19.1, at:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ java -version
bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory

 

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11 minutes ago, wurmian20120510 said:

On Mint 18.3 with openjdk1.8.0_211 I could get as far as seeing the IcedTea splash screen, then confirm that I really want to run this application (Wurm) and then I would see the small Wurm splash screen.

 

I tried this in the beginning of my struggle in mint 18.3, and it didn't work - some error about the package no longer available:

 

On Mint 19.1 with openjdk11, and icedtea-netx 1.8 (available in Software Manager in my linux mint 19.1)  I get nothing past the IceadTea splash screen.

 

So, I followed these instructions:

How to Remove/Uninstall (Oracle Java & openJDK) on Linux

 

and I did get the:


mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ java -version
bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory

Trying this on mint 19.1:

 

produces:


mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ sudo apt-get install oracle-java-8-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package oracle-java-8-installer

So, right now I'm on Mint 19.1, at:


mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ java -version
bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory

 

Have you added the PPA per instruction and ran apt update? What does apt search oracle return?

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PPA to install oracle java 8 is discontinued as Oracle does not provide DL links without logging in anymore.

I'm yet to find a workaround. Or Imay want to try the openjdk stuff of amazon.

 

Can't install and update oracle java 8 using the webupd8te PPA

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23 hours ago, Jaz said:

Well it seems Oracle tries to dodge the PPA installations which is VERY sad as I view it:

 

https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java

 

I'm not really wanting to create a Oracle account to just download their java. I'm curious if there will be (are already?) open alternatives that are actually compatible.

 

Thanks for the info, Jaz. I didn't yet know.

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If I try to follow the guide: Install Oracle Java 8 In Ubuntu Or Linux Mint Via PPA Repository [JDK8]

here are the results:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
You are about to add the following PPA:
 The Oracle JDK License has changed for releases starting April 16, 2019.

The new Oracle Technology Network License Agreement for Oracle Java SE is substantially different from prior Oracle JDK licenses. The new license permits certain uses, such as personal use and development use, at no cost -- but other uses authorized under prior Oracle JDK licenses may no longer be available. Please review the terms carefully before downloading and using this product. An FAQ is available here: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/oracle-jdk-faqs.html

Oracle Java downloads now require logging in to an Oracle account to download Java updates, like the latest Oracle Java 8u211 / Java SE 8u212. Because of this I cannot update the PPA with the latest Java (and the old links were broken by Oracle).

For this reason, THIS PPA IS DISCONTINUED (unless I find some way around this limitation).

Oracle Java (JDK) Installer (automatically downloads and installs Oracle JDK8). There are no actual Java files in this PPA.

Important -> Why Oracle Java 7 And 6 Installers No Longer Work: http://www.webupd8.org/2017/06/why-oracle-java-7-and-6-installers-no.html

Update: Oracle Java 9 has reached end of life: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk9-downloads-3848520.html

The PPA supports Ubuntu 18.10, 18.04, 16.04, 14.04 and 12.04.

More info (and Ubuntu installation instructions):
- http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html

Debian installation instructions:
- Oracle Java 8: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html

For Oracle Java 11, see a different PPA -> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/10/how-to-install-oracle-java-11-in-ubuntu.html
 More info: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
Press Enter to continue or Ctrl+C to cancel

Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.7NpxZE0YCq/gpg.1.sh --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7B2C3B0889BF5709A105D03AC2518248EEA14886
gpg: key C2518248EEA14886: 14 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key C2518248EEA14886: "Launchpad VLC" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:              unchanged: 1
mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease                                         
Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease [88,7 kB]                       
Hit:4 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease                                      
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88,7 kB]                     
Ign:6 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa InRelease                                             
Hit:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa Release                                               
Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease [74,6 kB]          
Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386 Packages [516 kB]               
Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages [617 kB]
Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [276 kB]
Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 Packages [936 kB]      
Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe i386 Packages [924 kB]
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [14,9 kB]
Get:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [227 kB]  
Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2 464 B]
Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [7 224 B]
Get:19 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [35,7 kB]
Get:20 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2 464 B]
Fetched 3 810 kB in 2s (1 890 kB/s)                                      
Reading package lists... Done
mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package oracle-java8-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'oracle-java8-installer' has no installation candidate
mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ 

and:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ apt search oracle
p   cl-sql-oracle                            - CLSQL database backend, Oracle                    
p   libdatetime-format-oracle-perl           - module for parsing and formatting Oracle dates and
p   libmono-oracle4.0-cil                    - Mono Oracle library (for CLI 4.0)                 
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1007-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1008-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1009-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1010-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1011-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-buildinfo-4.15.0-1013-oracle       - Linux kernel buildinfo for version 4.15.0 on 64 bi
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1007-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1008-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1009-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1010-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1011-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-4.15.0-1013-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel headers for version 4.15.0 on 
p   linux-headers-oracle                     - Linux kernel headers for Oracle systems.          
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1007-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1008-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1009-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1010-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1011-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-4.15.0-1013-oracle           - Signed kernel image oracle                        
p   linux-image-oracle                       - Linux kernel image for Oracle systems.            
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1007-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1008-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1009-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1010-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1011-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-1013-oracle  - Oracle Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 64
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1007-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1008-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1009-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1010-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1011-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-4.15.0-1013-oracle         - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1007-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1008-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1009-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1010-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1011-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-1013-oracle   - Oracle Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.15
p   linux-oracle                             - Complete Linux kernel for Oracle systems.         
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1007         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1008         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1009         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1010         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1011         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-headers-4.15.0-1013         - Header files related to Oracle Linux kernel versio
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1007           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1008           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1009           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1010           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1011           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-oracle-tools-4.15.0-1013           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-signed-image-oracle                - Signed Oracle Linux kernel image (dummy transition
p   linux-signed-oracle                      - Complete Signed Oracle Linux kernel and headers (d
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1007-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1008-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1009-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1010-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1011-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-4.15.0-1013-oracle           - Oracle Linux kernel version specific tools for ver
p   linux-tools-oracle                       - Linux kernel versioned tools for Oracle systems.  
p   spamoracle                               - statistical analysis spam filter based on Bayes' f
p   spamoracle:i386                          - statistical analysis spam filter based on Bayes' f
v   spamoracle-byte                          -                                                   
v   spamoracle-byte:i386                     -                                                   
mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ 

 

Edited by wurmian20120510

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As it is mentioned in the output you pasted and also in my earlier replies, that PPA IS DISCONTINUED, won't work anymore. Really sad I must admit.

 

You may try to manually install java from the Oracle page following their instructions:

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml

 

I have never tried it before as I've always used the PPA you tried to use (those sunny days are over it seems).

 

For reference, I've installed a fresh Mint and tried the amazon Corretto openJDK with Icedtea to launch the JNLP file, absolute fail.

Was going to try Java11 from Oracle too, but javaws is removed from that release so the Wurm JNLP won't start of course.

 

Edited by Jaz

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19 hours ago, Jaz said:

You may try to manually install java from the Oracle page following their instructions:

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml

I did that, but now:

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$ java -version

Command 'java' not found, but can be installed with:

sudo apt install default-jre            
sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre-headless
sudo apt install openjdk-8-jre-headless 

mypc@mypc-NV56R:~$

 

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