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MOI with no possibility of benefit

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[22:56:29] You have a moment of inspiration...

[22:56:29] You cut down the Blueberry bush. 

It would seem there are now MOIs with no possibility of benefit. This includes chopping all bush types.

Was this added intentionally? Successfully chopping a bush results in no tangible object, and this isn't a failure as would happen with things like surface mining not resulting in a rare rock shards.

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THere are many things that don't benefit from MOI. Its really fun having multiple MOI while farming or praying..

 

As they happen randomly, it's just luck of the draw whether they happen during activities that produce a tangible benefit or not.

 

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20 minutes ago, ChampagneDragon said:

THere are many things that don't benefit from MOI. Its really fun having multiple MOI while farming or praying..

 

As they happen randomly, it's just luck of the draw whether they happen during activities that produce a tangible benefit or not.

 

Farming MOI is supposed to result in a larger harvest, prayer should give item (gems) to my understanding.

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51 minutes ago, Seriphina said:

Farming MOI is supposed to result in a larger harvest, prayer should give item (gems) to my understanding.

 

While it would, in theory, be nice to live in a perfect world, this is far from the reality.

 

There is an abundant plethora of actions that have no possibility of providing a benefit after a rare action - Even more where the possibility is just so low that it may as well not even exist.

Like with prayer, rare window does not mean you get a gem but rather it means that if you WOULD HAVE normally gotten a gem anyways, instead you got a rare gem. If you would have received iron coins, you got one extra coin. Yeet.

The chance of any of these things occurring on the same action is painfully low.

 

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Making Transmutation Liquid and getting an MOI does not yield rare Transmutation Liquid.

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2 hours ago, Shydow said:

Making Transmutation Liquid and getting an MOI does not yield rare Transmutation Liquid.

It can. I've had one.

 

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4 hours ago, Shydow said:

Making Transmutation Liquid and getting an MOI does not yield rare Transmutation Liquid.

 

I got one of those, and got 100QL fluid (but not rare).

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16 hours ago, whereami said:

 

While it would, in theory, be nice to live in a perfect world, this is far from the reality.

 

There is an abundant plethora of actions that have no possibility of providing a benefit after a rare action - Even more where the possibility is just so low that it may as well not even exist.

Like with prayer, rare window does not mean you get a gem but rather it means that if you WOULD HAVE normally gotten a gem anyways, instead you got a rare gem. If you would have received iron coins, you got one extra coin. Yeet.

The chance of any of these things occurring on the same action is painfully low.

 

The odds are painfully low, but there are odds. And not every MOI results in a successful rare roll. My issue is the MOI with no possible outcome, as with chopping bushes. It's not a matter of a low chance of getting a log, or a roll happening and something not becoming rare, but the fact that a roll occurs at all. It's like the game decided to divide by zero.

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I suppose the game could hide the MOI from you when it can't possibly result in anything, no matter what the dice does. However, it wouldn't be a better outcome imo, because hiding it only means you will have no clue a window has come and gone. Fwiw, at least now you know, in these very rare occasions.

The alternative could be to add an infinitesimal chance of a rare coin when cutting a bush?

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IMO it's ok, had one while drinking water 2-3years ago.. 
You can have inspiration while mining or looking for items and fail to find anything.. inspiration roll still happens..

Same with repairing.. inspiration does nothing than.. it's just one of those actions.

You get to see the rainbow.

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They are still MOI - Moments of Infuriation ;) 

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simple things it should do:

 

When cutting something down, MOI should instantly cut it. Or just let some other rare item appear, like a rare fruit of that tree/bush or a sprout even if not ripe or having a sprout. 

When an MOI strikes during crafting an item, and that crafting rolls on fail, the MOI instead of making a fail should make it succeed but not granting a rarity buff.

When MOI strikes during repair, Make it immediately fully repair the remaining damage without causing QL loss for damage repaired that way.

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On 4/7/2019 at 3:42 AM, Anarres said:

I suppose the game could hide the MOI from you when it can't possibly result in anything, no matter what the dice does. However, it wouldn't be a better outcome imo, because hiding it only means you will have no clue a window has come and gone. Fwiw, at least now you know, in these very rare occasions.

The alternative could be to add an infinitesimal chance of a rare coin when cutting a bush?

As one can get multiple rare windows in quick succession, knowledge that rarity window has happened gives you exactly nothing though.

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