Posted January 4, 2019 Hi I would be great if I could get a free client for my friends On thing that stops my friends from playing my server is that they have to buy the whole game from steam It would be nice I the unlimited client was free so they can play on my server without spending $30 bucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Talon_Draconis said: Hi I would be great if I could get a free client for my friends On thing that stops my friends from playing my server is that they have to buy the whole game from steam It would be nice I the unlimited client was free so they can play on my server without spending $30 bucks You can get Wurm Unlimited very cheap already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Talon_Draconis said: Hi I would be great if I could get a free client for my friends On thing that stops my friends from playing my server is that they have to buy the whole game from steam It would be nice I the unlimited client was free so they can play on my server without spending $30 bucks Wurm Online is free to play if you all want to try playing together. (If you like it you can then buy WU knowing you'll enjoy it or get premium on WO) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 Maybe there would be more players if there were a free client Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Talon_Draconis said: Maybe there would be more players if there were a free client there'd also be 0 income, and development costs money. if you want to play for free wurm online offers free gameplay, you're just limited in skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Edit: Nevermind, this is clearly in the Wurm Unlimited forum. My fault. Edited January 4, 2019 by Beanbag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 As with any steam game anyone playing it will need a copy of the game. Wurm Unlimited has gone on sale many times in the past, as well as being included in a Humble Bundle sale, if people are eager to check it out but cannot afford the game full price, waiting for a sale is the best option for them. If you are wanting them to play for free, I'd suggest playing WO instead of WU, as they can play with limited skills for free, and you could own the deed and cover upkeep of it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Retrograde said: As with any steam game anyone playing it will need a copy of the game. Wurm Unlimited has gone on sale many times in the past, as well as being included in a Humble Bundle sale, if people are eager to check it out but cannot afford the game full price, waiting for a sale is the best option for them. If you are wanting them to play for free, I'd suggest playing WO instead of WU, as they can play with limited skills for free, and you could own the deed and cover upkeep of it Yup suggested that option to my friends...try the online vers to see if they like the game. But would be nice if you bought WU that they would give you a distributed client so people can play your server without having to buy the game. It would also increase the player base for ultimate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Talon_Draconis said: Yup suggested that option to my friends...try the online vers to see if they like the game. But would be nice if you bought WU that they would give you a distributed client so people can play your server without having to buy the game. It would also increase the player base for ultimate If you log in, then open Task Manager Details tab and end first SteamService.exe, then Steam.exe, your friend can then log in to your Steam account and play at the same time. It's the same way many people log in alts - basically, your friend would be an alt of your toon. The only catches are that they would have to log in with your Steam password, and you would be personally responsible for anything they did wrong. But the game is cheap enough that it is much better to just have separate Steam accounts. I can't see any reason why they'd ever give the game away for free, as it would be unfair to the thousands of people who already bought multiple copies for friends and family. Edited January 4, 2019 by Batta 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 I think you're mistaking the game model. We made our sales off copies of the game, the tools to create a server come along with it but are considered bundled in for free. I know you've hosted private servers of mmo's in the past but you're mistaking that model of a rather grey/black area (being against their ToS and liable to legal action) with ours run through steam with DRM and built around players hosting their own versions. Other private server games like Ark run the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 Pay for the server I agree but make the client free to increase the player base Wurm is great game but if nobody plays it or even heard of it. I came across wurm years ago but was not willing to try it because I was busy with other games and the sub model for the online game..and 40 buck cad for unlimited i did not try it. Said looks interesting but not worth trying it. When I seen it on sale decided to give it try found the server easy to set up but found the player base very small. Tried to get my friends to try it but even at 10 bucks they are not willing to buy it cheap bastards If the client were free they would be more inclined to try my private server. I would increase the player base and demand for servers Right now there are about 300 players average 500 peak I don't know what the online numbers are Also I hate steam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Paying for a server have nothing to do with buying a full game. By paying a server just the gamehoster get money that has no use for codeclub. I have 10 differents gameservers (like arma3 7d2d ark and so on) where also players have to buy the game if they like to play at my servers. If wurm unlimited would be completely free, you will never get awesome updates for free, and we dont like to pay for each update - not server owners and not the players. Edited January 5, 2019 by Eject 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) I don't think you understand how the very basic fundamentals of business works. Edited January 5, 2019 by Budzilla 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Talon_Draconis said: Pay for the server I agree but make the client free to increase the player base How would this in turn generate revenue? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Retrograde said: How would this in turn generate revenue? Simple if you want to run a server YOU buy the Wurm unlimited package. Maybe even provide a server rental like connan exiles If you just want to play on a server you down load a free client like the online client but able to see and connect to private severs This will increase the player base and also create a demand for severs. Right now a player base of 200-500 players is not enough to support the 20-30 servers I see online since at least 1/2 of them are on 1-2 servers all the other servers have 1 or 2 players Edited January 5, 2019 by Talon_Draconis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 It's just economics dude. You're not thinking full circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Talon_Draconis said: Simple if you want to run a server YOU buy the Wurm unlimited package. Maybe even provide a server rental like connan exiles If you just want to play on a server you down load a free client like the online client but able to see and connect to private severs This will increase the player base and also create a demand for severs. Right now a player base of 200-500 players is not enough to support the 20-30 servers I see online since at least 1/2 of them are on 1-2 servers all the other servers have 1 or 2 players You can already get WU really cheap. If you don't get the hint then I can't help you. Still what would 500 players playing for free help WU. It is no problem for one server cluster to handle 500 players. So in theory it is possible that 500 players is only one sold server package. Edited January 5, 2019 by Sklo:D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) On 1/5/2019 at 7:59 AM, Talon_Draconis said: Right now a player base of 200-500 players is not enough to support the 20-30 servers I see online since at least 1/2 of them are on 1-2 servers all the other servers have 1 or 2 players I personally play on quite a few servers, and not one of them has only 1 or 2 players. I think your information is incorrect. But even if it wasn't, any server that can't attract players will naturally fizzle out, so what's the problem? The natural solution to servers being set up in ways that players aren't drawn to can't be that the developers give it away for free. If you want your friends to play without paying, let them use your Steam account as alts, as I described above. We don't need a global solution for a personal issue. Edited January 20, 2019 by Batta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 6, 2019 if 30 is too much for you to buy a game then i think you have more problems than just buying WU. they dont even charge a full 60 for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 19, 2019 Also make my internet connection, my gas bill, water bill, electric bill and such free too. kthx 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 5:04 PM, Talon_Draconis said: Yup suggested that option to my friends...try the online vers to see if they like the game. But would be nice if you bought WU that they would give you a distributed client so people can play your server without having to buy the game. It would also increase the player base for ultimate Hey give me free stuff because I don't wanna pay for your product! It's good for the game I swear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 1:19 PM, Talon_Draconis said: Pay for the server I agree but make the client free to increase the player base What on earth are bunch of players playing for free on someone private server gonna help anyone? It's not gonna help Online version, it's not gonna make money for the company if one man can buy right to host server and the rest is free.. I'm afraid you're not thinking this right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) What you buy when you buy WU is the client, the server is for free. Edited January 20, 2019 by Cecci included in package Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) On 1/5/2019 at 4:19 AM, Talon_Draconis said: When I seen it on sale decided to give it try found the server easy to set up but found the player base very small. I've never found the player base too small. If you make a server that people like, then they play there. If they don't like your server, they don't play. All of my servers have had at least 200 unique Steam IDs checking it out, which is more than enough. Edited January 20, 2019 by Batta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites