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[Fixed] placing bug

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if you're in a cave and are placing an item and the item runs into a wall while being placed it just bounces above ground instead of simply getting stuck against the wall

      x  o

x x x  o

o o o o

x = cave wall

o = open tile

 

the red o is where it was, the blue o is where i tried to place it, and it runs into the wall and bounces above every time

item was an altar

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Verified.  Added to the list, thanks for the report.

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BMgNSsj.gif    bsb-doom.gif   ULTOcej.gif

 

 

oh no! oh no oh no oh no oh no!!!!!

 

 

It seems that the "Place" command has some Arcane Magick Powers that need to be kept in check, particularly when used in multistory buildings! This stuff has been happening to me with a bulk bin, but also a crate, and it probably applies to anything that can be Placed. I will continue to use "bin" as a convenient shorthand and for the sake of visualization.

 

Here are some bizarre scenarios that have happened so far, in order of increasing metaphysical danger:

  1. I've been able to use "Place" to transfer the bin across a gap, onto a tile I would not otherwise be able to get to.
  2. Not strictly related to "Place", but while standing on stairs, I am often in situations where I cannot transfer bulk items from a bin at the bottom of the stairs to be a bin on top of the stairs, even though I can take items from both and transfer manually, because the stairs are "in the way".
  3. I've been able to use "Place" to transfer a bin from one story to another, while standing on stairs.
    • Behavior seems to change  erratically if you move up or down the stairs while the Place command is in mid-use.
    • Sometimes this goes horribly wrong and the bin does a Wogic Teleport.
  4. Sometimes the bin forgets where it is supposed to be.
    • I had moved a bin from a spot near a plain stone wall to another room of the building (on the 6th(?) floor) through a combination of pushing and placing. While in that room, after using it for a while, I tried to Place the bin on a floor nearby, I got the following message:
      [20:45:48] The plain stone wall is in the way. [20:45:48] An error occured while placing that item, please try again.
      There was no plain stone wall in the way, but it did then Wogic Teleport to the spot near the plain stone wall where it had been 15 minutes prior, which I suppose would have been in the way at the time!

 

Wogic Teleportation seems to result in any of the following:

  1. The bin goes up from the floor it was on to the floor you are on, in the case moving up/down stairs, not necessarily in the direction you want and possibly even behind a fence to a spot you can't access. Or vice versa, if it touches the upper floor portion of a stair tile or otherwise is moved across a lower floor.
  2. The bin disappears and goes someplace it was several minutes before (I have seen this in multiple circumstances).
  3. The bin drops to the ground floor of the building.
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This sounds similar to some things I've experienced in buildings, where other strange things can happen if something goes through someplace weird on the way from one valid location to another via Place:

 

 

Edited by Ostentatio

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Tried to move bsb through place command to a next tile, a bit below. I was close to the outer wall of the mine, reinforced. Game buried the bsb inside reinforced wall instead of trying to move the item around it. tunnel is sloped (around 30 dirt). After relogging the bsb ended up outside the mine. GM found the item for me outside the mine, so i guess all in all a minor inconvenience for me.

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1 hour ago, ReesMcCleary said:

Tried to move bsb through place command to a next tile, a bit below. I was close to the outer wall of the mine, reinforced. Game buried the bsb inside reinforced wall instead of trying to move the item around it. tunnel is sloped (around 30 dirt). After relogging the bsb ended up outside the mine. GM found the item for me outside the mine, so i guess all in all a minor inconvenience for me.

 

I can confirm this bug. Also happened on our server already.

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[2020-02-15] [21:37:54] You start to place a trash heap.
[2020-02-15] [21:37:55] You see a reinforced cave floor which has been prepared ready for paving.
[2020-02-15] [21:37:58] After you finish placing you will start placing again.
[2020-02-15] [21:37:59] You finish placing a trash heap.
[2020-02-15] [21:37:59] You start to place a trash heap.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:04] You finish placing a trash heap.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:10] You start to place a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:12] You see dark dungeons.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:15] You finish placing a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:16] You start to place a trash heap.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:18] The Cave wall is in the way.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:20] You start to place a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:22] You see a reinforced cave floor which has been prepared ready for paving.
[2020-02-15] [21:38:26] You finish placing a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:39:10] You start to place a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:39:15] You finish placing a bulk storage bin.
[2020-02-15] [21:39:24] You will now fight defensively.
[2020-02-15] [21:39:25] Reconnecting Oblivionnreaver! The Celebration has been waiting for you.

 

It was showing in the cave still but unable to be interracted with coz it was on the surface, then when i relogged it was showing on the surface. Lava is from firepillar so i could mark where the tunnel was.

 

 

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i was placing a replacement over and did it again coz i'm a moron

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Can be related to long lasting bug where you place an item partly inside a mine wall and it magically teleports to the surface (usually at server restarts)? I happened to offer a bunch of building mats on my old Elevation deed to our kind enemies that way - they did not notice it in time though :P

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