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abnormal high slopes

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easier will be to copy and paste talk from CA Help chat, then writing everything from beginning:   (talk on other topics i replaced by "...")

 

[00:10:17] <Sizar> when opening a cave, sometimes it is possible to make higher rock slope than normally can be done (more than 300 on freedom, and more than 100 on chaos) is it legal ?
[00:11:23] <Ostentatio> (Xan) I'm not 100% sure that's possible
[00:11:43] <Ostentatio> (Xan) if it is, there's nothing against it in the rules though
[00:12:10] <Ostentatio> (Xan) from the wiki: "The maximum height of a tunnel entrance is 270 slope. "
[00:12:44] <Sizar> cave entrance slope yes, 270, but above cave can be done more that that, even 5000
[00:13:25] <Ostentatio> (Xan) how would that be accomplished?
[00:13:52] <Tomatoes> (Pri) level tile above entrance...
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[00:14:19] <Ostentatio> (Xan) leveling checks slopes though
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[00:14:43] <Tomatoes> (Pri) level borders? leveling them doesnt check
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[00:15:02] <Ostentatio> (Xan) if leveling borders doesn't check skill, that sounds like a pretty significant bug
[00:15:24] <Tomatoes> (Pri) no not skill , doesnt check if your standing on flat ground.
[00:16:01] <Ostentatio> (Xan) if there's any way to create a slope beyond 300 with level/flatten, that would be a bug
[00:16:08] <Sizar> cave entrance has auto-leveling lower and higher tile border of cave,
[00:16:25] <Tomatoes> (Pri) oh so if one is off....
[00:16:48] <Ostentatio> (Xan) oh, does the upper corner lower itself now as well?
[00:16:53] <Sizar> it is only known for me method to do that, normally on freedom max slope is mining skill *3, and on chaos *1
[00:17:21] <Ostentatio> (Xan) they never used to do this
[00:17:26] <Tomatoes> (Pri) yep
[00:18:35] <Sizar> so if it is a bug it should not be used, but what about slopes that was made before, for example accidently ? now they can't be modified
[00:19:10] <Ostentatio> (Xan) yeah I was unaware that the upper border levels itself now as well
[00:19:12] <Oblivionnreaver> can pout concrete at base
[00:19:17] <Oblivionnreaver> then mine top
[00:19:22] <Ostentatio> (Xan) ^
[00:20:11] <Sizar> concrete can be poured on slopes up to 41 on freedom, and up to 26 on chaos, so there are many situations, where can't use it
[00:24:43] <Ostentatio> (Xan) yeah, it's not an ideal situation for sure if that happens
[00:25:33] <Amath> Sizar, I suggest to report on forums and perhaps ask your question there as well. Even if it doesn't get immediate answer, it would be considered
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[00:29:38] <Sizar> my main is Kgorski, but i can't write on CA help from chaos :P, but thatnks for advice, i will post that "probably bug" on forums :)
[00:30:15] <Amath> thank you Sizar
[00:30:47] <Amath> Kgorski undercover :)
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Not sure if this is a bug per se, but worth looking into. This behavior could make it easy to intentionally or accidentally create rock slopes that cannot feasibly be modified by players, regardless of their skill.

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i think we only need "slope height check" in code, when opening a cave.

 

 

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there is another case when slope can become higher than normally possible: when opening cave entrance from inside of cave, and don't know how it looks outside, can produce too high accidently... :(

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This is still possible, bug, exploit or intended?

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