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Odynn

You can't seem to find anything of use. Or the boring side of archaeology.

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So... here we go with some kind of rage thread... or more of a field trip on an old disbanded deed... with 88 skill and a 91QL trowel

 

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[21:56:26] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:56:32] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:56:38] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:56:44] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:56:50] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:56:56] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:56:56] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[21:57:02] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:57:12] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:57:17] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:23] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:57:28] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:33] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:39] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:44] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:50] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:57:55] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:58:01] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:58:07] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:12] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:18] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:27] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:58:27] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Farmvilla. It looks to have been abandoned for roughly 18 years, 7 months, somewhere around the year 1052.
[21:58:32] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:37] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:58:43] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:54] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:58:59] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:04] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:59:10] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:59:15] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:20] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:59:30] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:35] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:40] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:46] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[21:59:51] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[21:59:56] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:00:06] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:00:11] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:00:17] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:00:23] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:00:29] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:00:35] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:01:01] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:01:06] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:01:11] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:01:17] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:01:22] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:01:22] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Foothill. You make a rough estimate that the settlement was inhabited for about 1 year.
[22:01:28] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:01:40] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:01:45] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:01:56] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:02:01] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:02:26] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:02:32] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:02:37] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:02:46] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:02:51] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:02:57] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:03:02] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:03:24] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:03:29] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:04:12] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:04:18] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:04:29] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:04:35] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:04:41] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:04:55] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:05:01] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:06] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:12] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:05:33] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:38] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:44] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:49] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:05:54] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:06:00] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:05] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:11] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:06:11] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:06:16] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:30] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:35] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:40] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:46] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:06:51] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:06:57] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:07:03] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:08] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:14] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:20] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:32] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:38] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:07:43] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:07:49] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:07:55] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:01] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:08:07] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:13] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:08:19] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:25] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:31] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:08:37] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:44] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:50] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:08:56] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:09:02] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:09:08] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:09:20] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:09:26] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:09:33] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:09:39] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:09:54] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:09:59] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:10:05] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:10:11] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:10:17] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:10:23] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:10:29] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:10:35] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:10:57] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:10:57] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Foothill.
[22:11:43] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:11:49] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:11:55] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:12:01] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:12:09] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:15] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:15] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:12:21] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:27] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:33] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:12:39] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:45] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:12:51] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:12:57] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:13:18] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:13:23] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:13:36] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:13:41] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:13:46] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:13:52] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:13:58] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:13:58] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Farmvilla. You recall this settlement, and remember the name of the founder as Xanakira.
[22:14:03] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:14:19] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:14:25] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:14:30] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:14:36] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:14:41] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:14:53] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:14:59] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:15:06] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:15:11] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:11] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:15:17] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:17] You can see multiple markers of abandoned settlements here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, one of the settlements must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:15:22] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:28] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:35] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:41] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:15:47] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:15:53] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:16:09] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:17:15] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:18:09] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:18:14] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:18:28] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:18:34] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:18:46] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:19:02] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:19:07] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:19:13] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:19:13] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla. You recall this settlement, and remember the name of the founder as Xanakira.
[22:19:18] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:19:24] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:19:30] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:19:56] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:20:02] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:20:02] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:20:07] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:20:13] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:20:19] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:20:24] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:20:36] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:20:42] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:20:47] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:20:59] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:21:09] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:21:20] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:21:26] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:21:31] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:22:04] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:22:21] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:22:33] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:22:51] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:23:23] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:23:56] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:24:07] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:24:31] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:24:37] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:24:43] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:24:49] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:24:49] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:24:55] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:25:01] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:25:07] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:25:14] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:25:20] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:25:26] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:25:26] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:25:32] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:25:38] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:25:51] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:25:57] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:26:15] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:26:27] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:26:39] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:26:52] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:27:04] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:27:10] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:27:10] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:27:17] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:27:23] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:27:35] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:27:51] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:29:02] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:29:16] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:29:16] You can see signs of a single abandoned settlement here. Based on your knowledge of the area and small hints you can find, the settlement must have been called Farmvilla.
[22:29:22] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:29:33] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:29:39] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:29:45] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:29:50] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:30:48] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:31:15] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:31:21] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:31:57] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:32:20] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:32:25] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:32:37] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
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[22:33:26] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:33:32] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:33:39] You can't seem to find anything of use.
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[22:34:03] You can't seem to find anything of use.
[22:34:10] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:34:16] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.
[22:34:22] You pick out a fragment of some item wedged into the ground.

 

The failrate on that deed is atrocious... and the answer of picking an easier spot is ... silly at that skill and seeing there is only ONE disbanded deed (well on most of the surface). The fragments that got picked up range from all QLs, from 0.23 to 80+ meaning that even by finding some fragments, most of them didn't yeild any skills.

 

So please. Can something be done about the difficulty ... and can we get some pity skill ticks from the 'can't seem to find anything of use.'

 

nota : area searched was 23x23 - skill gain was around 0.13 (knowing i ditched the SB due to the failrate).

 

Edited by Odynn
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Hrm, junk give skills, at this point, doesn't matter if you get junk and skill, or nothing and skill... but nothing for wasted time and SB is ... a waste.

 

 

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That's failing a roll, so you would not get any skill for it regardless, so you would be getting junk without skill

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I remember when I had 1 Arch skill and I was getting BC ticks, then the update happened and I stopped wasting my time with this skill.

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2 hours ago, armyskin said:

I remember when I had 1 Arch skill and I was getting BC ticks, then the update happened and I stopped wasting my time with this skill.

BC gain wasnt changed at all, literally nothing was with that.

 

I believe you also started getting more ML ticks, since it wasnt correctly doing tool skillgain checks, which also use some subskills 

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5 hours ago, Retrograde said:

That's failing a roll, so you would not get any skill for it regardless

 

dat's the main point. the fail rate is atrocious, the difficulty too high, yadda yadda. If you can't decently check a single deed at the skills listed above, something is wrong.

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it's about a 50% find rate and each of those has a fairly decent chance of being a tool, mask, or statue fragment

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Is 0.13 skill gain unrealistic for about 40 minutes of work?

 

Has anyone ever figured out how much time we spend on failed improvment rolls assuming most people improve to around their skill level? 

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1 hour ago, joedobo said:

Is 0.13 skill gain unrealistic for about 40 minutes of work?

 

 

At 88 skill without SB that sounds quite realistic, if not a bit too much ;)

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2 hours ago, joedobo said:

Is 0.13 skill gain unrealistic for about 40 minutes of work?

 

not with pok 11 - coc 90+ tools - vynora faith bonus. Remember that a bunch of people already have 90+ archaeo and finished the statues.

 

It's mostly a matter of difficulty being too high... something which we were said would be looked at.

 

4 hours ago, Retrograde said:

being a tool, mask, or statue fragment

Seeing that the good looking stuff is still locked as epic pvp incentive... that's not really a relief.

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13 minutes ago, Odynn said:

It's mostly a matter of difficulty being too high... something which we were said would be looked at.

 

It was looked at and adjusted 

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unless this was adjusted during the ongoing update... it's still off. if on one deeds the difficulty is already up and through the roof, it's just impossible on multiple deeds.

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Honestly since the update i've found less statue pieces than i did before. I just find lots more junk. Out of about 4000 fragments i've dug up and restored i have like....30 statue frags and no mask. It's silly. I just stopped bothering because no skill should feel so unrewarding at 70+ skill. The tool, weapon and armour parts could be useful if they didn't always give like 5 power enchants or the weaker 5% runes people don't use >.<

 

If anything i'm just more disappointed after the most recent change because i found out i wasted about 15 hours sleep bonus on no CoC, for no reward just to find out CoC shoulda been working the whole time >.>

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When investigating, the better stuff you can get, the higher the difficulty. Using skiller tools on those areas would be a waste of time since you will have high difficulty rolls and likely get nothing. 

 

If you are aiming for good pieces, use the highest ql trowel available. 

 

If you are aiming for skill, use a mid ql shovel, as a shovel reduces your chances of getting better stuff but also reduces difficulty. and if you're on deed don't use skiller tools, you'll likelt fail half your skill checks. 

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Does the rarity on tools affect either ql of fragments or what drops?

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No more than adding slightly to the QL of tool as far as I am aware. 

 

the difficulty is also knowing what you get from these actions, if you get only a few fragments but they exclude junk, then it's not necessarily a bad result, whereas if all you are getting is junk, the difficulty could be further adjusted or looked at. 

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2 hours ago, Retrograde said:

If you are aiming for good pieces, use the highest ql trowel available. 

 

 

See its information that would of been nice from the get go rather than wasting dozens of hours running around with my finest shovel.

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4 minutes ago, JakeRivers said:

 

 

See its information that would of been nice from the get go rather than wasting dozens of hours running around with my finest shovel.

 

In the good old days the players would have had to find out this information for themselves, and were happy to do so.

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See if it was a skill worthwhile more people would of been doing it and applying the science to the skill, so far it has not caught on and so folks like me just run around and hope for the best.

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15 hours ago, Retrograde said:

BC gain wasnt changed at all, literally nothing was with that.

 

I believe you also started getting more ML ticks, since it wasnt correctly doing tool skillgain checks, which also use some subskills 

You are right. The ticks are the same size, when they happen.

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Archeology? What's that? I thought your *hidden contents* was a combat tab filled with redlined misses and glancing blows. Sorry, my mistake...

 

=Ayes=

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Wurm must be boring, otherwise it would not be wurm.

This is not an action game.

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9 hours ago, Retrograde said:

When investigating, the better stuff you can get, the higher the difficulty. Using skiller tools on those areas would be a waste of time since you will have high difficulty rolls and likely get nothing. 

 

If you are aiming for good pieces, use the highest ql trowel available. 

 

If you are aiming for skill, use a mid ql shovel, as a shovel reduces your chances of getting better stuff but also reduces difficulty. and if you're on deed don't use skiller tools, you'll likelt fail half your skill checks. 

 

I use 95QL rare trowel, i still stand by my 4000 pieces = 30 hunks of statue. I've nevr used shovel or low QL tools throughout and i still seem to just find junk on top of junk =/

 

Edit - i counted and its 39 hunks of statue, 0 mask. For using a 95QL rare trowel at a variety of formerly deeded locations and collecting about 4300 shards.


I get something good roughly 0.9% of the time by that count.

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