Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Just had this problem right now and it continued to crash every time I reloaded the client, tried all different profiles, eventually I got logged in by disabling sound. Edit: I captured a dump from task manager if that helps anyone. Edited December 31, 2017 by Threap 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2018 Threap, I love you right now. I read this and came back to try. I am happy to say I have 10 clients running at everything max, except sound disabled. Not one crash so far, doing everything I can to make it crash. My fans are running hot, but I can live with this. Now to see if I can enable sound on just one and see if it causes only that one to crash or if it can take them all out. Will try both hardware and software sound engines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) try also checking whether sound is running in HARDWARE or SOFTWARE mode If I recall in the past WURM had problems with HARDWARE (OpenAL) mode and maybe that is back. Or just try whatever is opposite of what you used before. Edited January 1, 2018 by Brash_Endeavors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Been testing hardware sound on only 1 client, with all the others set to disabled sound and it ran a few hours just fine. Hardware is the default setting. Now moved to a software sound setting and on 5 clients at once. So far, it is working just fine - with one exception: My sounds are muted considerably, as if I am hearing them from a distance, but I do get a normal sound once in a while. If this continues working well, my next test will be for one client at hardware and the rest at software. I'd completely forgotten this bug Brash. Thank you for the reminder Makes me think they grabbed some old code, when they started reintroducing the wood textures? I've noticed barrels, chests and beds all now have the distinct wood type textures again. Edit: almost an hour with 5 clients running software sound and not 1 lockup. This has to be it, at least for my issues. Hopefully others as well? Edited January 1, 2018 by Wurmhole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Another thing to check -- people often keep graphics drivers up to date but forget to check on sound drivers. Or sometimes microsoft likes to "update" drivers with something not openGL/OpenAL friendly. Or, sometimes people add a fancy new USB headset which has a separate soundchip embedded and doesn't play well with generic drivers. Or old USB devices have left hidden drivers installed for hardware you no longer even have, that conflicts and causes crashes. Some of the onboard motherboard soundchips even keep pretty decent montlhly updated drivers these days, like realtek -- though apparently some recent realtek drivers also cause crashing for someWin10 users. Also maybe see this thread. Anyway there might even be an easy fix that lets you go back to OpenAL on all clients, if you are in the mood for a bit more poking around. If it is narrowed down to 'may be related to sound', half the work is done. Would be interesting to know whether some of the other whitescreen crashes also experimented with whether disabling sound (not just setting to 0) makes any difference, since one of the common issueswith the crashes is running multiple clients at one time,. Would be marvelous if they finally found an easy fix. Edited January 1, 2018 by Brash_Endeavors 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2018 I spoke too soon. Logged out my alts and was just running my main solo, using software sound. Was about to exit my mine and the client locked up. Back to square 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2018 my console log fromm the last crash, after the new patch came out a couple hours ago, which isn't fixing anything for us white screen sufferers. Spoiler Preparing to enable console logging. Now logging to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\console.shaylie.log Time is Mon Jan 08 19:54:40 EST 2018 Running client version 4.0.22 client build# 211d320477ecaa750b786e6f53559f9a0eb944d5 client build time 2018-01-09 01:46 === System information === Executing from C:\Users\USERNAME\Desktop\ Operating system: Windows 10 (arch: amd64, version: 10.0) Java version: 1.8.0_151 (Oracle Corporation) <http://java.oracle.com/> Jvm version: 25.151-b12 (Oracle Corporation) [Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM] Available CPUs: 8 === Wurm options === animation_playback_self = 0 auto_mipmaps_enabled = 2 auto_run_source = 0 cavedetail = 0 censor_chat = true collada_animations = 4 colorItemsDamage = true color_black = 0.0,0.0,0.0,1.0 color_cyan = 0.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 color_error = 1.0,0.3,0.3,1.0 color_fuchsia = 1.0,0.0,1.0,1.0 color_green = 0.4,0.72,0.47,1.0 color_grey = 0.5,0.75,1.0,1.0 color_lime = 0.5,1.0,0.5,1.0 color_maroon = 0.5,0.0,0.0,1.0 color_navy_blue = 0.23,0.39,1.0,1.0 color_orange = 1.0,0.58,0.04,1.0 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limit_dynamic_lights = false loadInventoryStartup = true local_list_in_event = true lod = 1 log_extra_errors = false log_gl_errors = false mark_text_read = true material_as_suffix = false max_dynamic_lights = 16 max_shader_lights = 8 max_texture_size = 3 mega_texture_size = 2 model_loader_thread_priority = 2 model_loading_threads = 4 mount_rotation = false multidraw_enabled = 2 no_brightness = false no_terrain_render = false no_world_render = false non_power_of_two = 2 occlusion_queries_enabled = 2 offscreen_texture_size = 2 other_log_rotation = 2 outline_picking = true player_texture_size = 3 reflection_texture_size = 2 reflections = 4 release_context = false release_context_on_jogl_sleep = false remember_password = true render_bloom = false render_distant_terrain = true render_fxaa = false render_sun_glare = false render_vignette = false resident_models = false save_skills_on_quit = true screen_brightness = 0.0 screenshot_file_format = 1 season_override = 0 send_extra_tile_data = 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Initialized mouse with 5 buttons. Startup Phase - Initializing.. Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11). Texture Size: 512 Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11, italic). Texture Size: 128 Experimental direct buffer cleaner init successful Preloading builtin materials Preloading builtin materials done Launching Collada Model Loader threads Launching WOM Loader threads Startup Phase - Setting up.. Loading window positions from C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\players\shaylie\windows_1280x720.txt Loading props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\players\shaylie\windows_1280x720.txt Gui initialized Startup Phase - Preparing terrain... Startup Phase - Connecting .. Disabling Nagles Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\players\shaylie\logs\_Event.2018-01.txt Disabling Nagles Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\players\shaylie\logs\Alliance.2018-01.txt Login successful Executing C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm\configs\1280x720 high sound\autorun.txt Starting update of login splash image... 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Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Any ideas on this? I've run with GLSL shaders off, but it still locked up with white screen, now running with multidraw off and so far it is lasting longer than usual. Could be something to this setting? Anything specific any devs want me to try to help diagnose this issue? Quite a few people in my alliance are all dealing with this same issue and just aren't bothering to report here. Edit: 3 hours later and my 5 clients are running great with no multidraw disabled. I did some googling on multidraw and it sounds like it is a feature to offload some CPU load to the GPU? If so, not an issue, since my CPU is still under 25% with all 5 clients. I will try leaving all the clients running over night. Hopefully none get eaten by a troll... Edit: Just woke up after a long nights sleep and all clients are running smoothly. No bloated CPU, RAM or GPU on any of them. Disabling Multidraw is now my best fix for whitescreen issues. Edit: Been runninng those same 5 clients all morning and adding in 2-3 additional clients at times, using different configs and all running happy with Multidraw off. I did have an ally try it and experience a crash on one of her alts (1 of 3), but she was also in local of a unique hunt crowd, which puts all kinds of additional stress on clients. Hopefully she will have better success when logged in later, with no local crowding. Edited January 14, 2018 by Wurmhole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 16, 2018 Had about 24 hours of uptime with 5-8 clients, Old Nvidia driver 387.92 and multidraw turned off. Decided to reload the newest Nvidia driver and it crashed right away. Went back to the old one and it crashes less, but is still crashing and almost always the same client taking the hit. It is using the same exact settings as all the other 4. Why did I get 24 hours of bliss and then back to crashing? What would devs do if this were their own personal experience with the game? I believe this is now going on 4 months since first posted as an issue. Is there some internal progress? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 16, 2018 Multidraw setting literally doesn't do anything right now, it's not used in the 4.0 clients. Just from that one fact you can see how random this issue is. We can look for logical reasons this is happening, but that's all guessing until we get a viable reproduction going. From how this looks I am sure that this isn't a graphics driver issue either, as I think I stated earlier in the thread somewhere, but most likely a memory allocation one and some artificial limit we're reaching - we have a couple of things in the works to limit total memory used as well as reduce the jumps in memory usage you can often see. If that won't help then I'll look for other reasons this could be happening, but again, that'll just be guessing without a reproduction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 16, 2018 Ah, thank you for responding, even though it wasn't news I was hoping for. Is there anything at all I can change on my end to manage memory allocation, or other things I can try to do to help pinpoint the issue? Is running in windowed mode vs full screen at all connected? I never ran in full for very long in my first tests, but never had the lockup then and a couple others I've talked to say Fullscreen helped them. What causes the CPU to jump from 3% to 17% when the lockup happens? Why is it usually the same alts that get hit with the lockup? Something about what window is on top? Order in which the clients were loaded? I remember a long time ago, Keenan had some special parameter to use with the java launcher that set some java client memory limits - it was specifically for the clients crashing/stuttering from doing a long travel across the server. Would some settings like that be helpful? Do you all have a computer there that crashes this way for testing, or are you completely reliant on us to replicate the lockup? We desperately want to help solve this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2018 Been doing a lot of switching back and forth with 2 settings: VBO and FBO. When they are disabled, my single client runs for hours generally and sometimes never crashed at all for an entire day. When I enable them (back to core), the client will almost always crash within a few minutes. I still get the whitescreen crash when they are disabled, but it is so rare with a single client running that it is not much of an issue. Running with them disabled gives a lot of graphical issues though, like spikes growing out of people and creatures, poor texture detail, etc. But at least it is playable for me this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
