Posted December 18, 2016 i think what we can do about low numbers of online ppl every night... and i found it! lets translate wurm into Chinese language, or atlast give option for multi language, i throw my supreme trowel in wall if that will not works and bring more ppl here... i m sure we will get 10.000 online ppl every day.+ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2016 +1 translate to my language too, i can help a little if needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Great idea, not just Chinese, any language, I'm sure the players would be more than happy to help with the translations, I know I would like to help with that too if I had the chance. Here are languages and the populations that speak them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers So Mandarin(largest Chinese language), Spanish, Arabic, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese should be a priority. (Hindi, Bengali and Punjabi mostly speak English as a second language, most Germans speak English too) Edited December 18, 2016 by Tovarishtito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2016 if we could export english txt out of wurm, we could translate everything and put it back for public Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Ideally: Translations? oh yea, lets have 2 billion gold spammers and kids in trade chat and tons of people talking in global in their own language.... Realisticly: Lots of effort and minimal new customers. Edited December 18, 2016 by Zekezor 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2016 It wouldn't hurt to have the wiki in other languages, or have a forum section for people looking for those who speak their language. I've run into a number of people who speak only or mostly French and Polish as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 10,000 non English speaking players in wurm though... that sounds like a lot of misunderstandings Although Spanish and Portuguese would probably be a better option. -1 Edited Edited December 23, 2016 by Legios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2016 Wonder if maybe this is a great project for Wurm Unlimited. Easier to crowd source the effort for any language. Able to create servers that are language specific, or international melting pot, according to preference. No subscription money, but still money in the grander scheme of things. Doesn't solve low population number in WO if that's the goal though. Low pop isn't bothering me but OP mentioned that was a reason for doing it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2016 On 18/12/2016 at 8:47 PM, Tovarishtito said: Great idea, not just Chinese, any language, I'm sure the players would be more than happy to help with the translations, I know I would like to help with that too if I had the chance. Here are languages and the populations that speak them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers So Mandarin(largest Chinese language), Spanish, Arabic, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese should be a priority. (Hindi, Bengali and Punjabi mostly speak English as a second language, most Germans speak English too) javanese is number 12 its my daily language Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2016 On 20-12-2016 at 7:05 PM, Legios said: 10,000 non English speaking players in wurm though... that sounds like a lot of misunderstandings at least for NA servers imo U know this game is Swedish and not american right? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2016 I'm voting +1 just because. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) On 12/22/2016 at 9:13 AM, LorenaMontana said: U know this game is Swedish and not american right? I did not, but what does does a country of origin have to do with the language? The game does not seem to have any other option of language as far as I could tell, so the game was made intentionally in English; although I was trying to say servers in general since I'm unaware of where they are located. Also I noticed you capitalized Swedish but not American, I'm going to guess you took offense to my comment, I apologize if it bothered you. Edited Edited December 23, 2016 by Legios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Legios said: I did not, but what does does a country of origin have to do with the language? The game does not seem to have any other option of language as far as I could tell, so the game was made intentionally in English. NA does mean North America; although I was trying to say servers in general since I'm unaware of where they are located. Okay buddy, english servers does not mean north american servers. Assuming that all servers utilising the english language are naturally north american is stupid at best. You americans are a colonial region of the brittish empire that got their independance. There is plenty of other places in the world where people speak english. Not to mention most games use english as a base language for their games irregardless of server location. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Want no trees, ores, dragons, access to parts of your server, items and gold sales to crash ? Because this is how you get that. MR was easy to deal with compared to the shadow that would come. Edited December 23, 2016 by paulski Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zekezor said: Okay buddy, english servers does not mean north american servers. Assuming that all servers utilising the english language are naturally north american is stupid at best. You americans are a colonial region of the brittish empire that got their independance. There is plenty of other places in the world where people speak english. Not to mention most games use english as a base language for their games irregardless of server location. In my comment I cleared up what I meant to say, so I don't understand what you're going at. My comment was about your first comment, Translation would create constant gold seller spam and foreign languages in public chats making it incredibly hard and annoying for does who do not understand. Edited December 23, 2016 by Legios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 24, 2016 well it could be translated in slovenian language as no.2 for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I think it is a great idea to translate wurm to Chinese; however, I am not a fan of machine translation. It is better to have a professional translation to make user experience better. For example, translate shark is really great. I have ordered a translation a few times from this service for my blog and was satisfied. Edited January 6, 2017 by Rachu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 7, 2017 On 12/18/2016 at 5:15 PM, Zekezor said: Ideally: Translations? oh yea, lets have 2 billion gold spammers and kids in trade chat and tons of people talking in global in their own language.... Realisticly: Lots of effort and minimal new customers. I usually don't like agreeing with this guy ^ But this time I have to. Also: while I am very much pro translate, there's two issues that go with it: 1. it's really not a bad idea learning english a little 2. all chat and local will be flooded with people who simply will not speak english. In games where that has happened before, it started sucking quickly. But if they go ahead and do this, i won't mind contributing for home language. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I lived in Hong Kong for 6 years and have known many Chinese people since leaving. Coulda learnt Mandarin at school but stupidly chose History and got an F. (i chose a topic we hadn't studied because i didn't care about the Russian Revolution) From experience, I think only the Japanese are more keen to learn English. Some might consider it strange that the cultures that are most driven to learn the language are the ones that don't even use the same alphabet as us. I enjoy speaking to people who don't know English very well. you boil your comms down to logic words and simple associations. there's a pleasure in that. in `keeping things simple` The only Far Eastern i've met in this game was SiGhx and i haven't seen him for a while. i've already +1'd this topic. Edited January 11, 2017 by Steveleeb typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 13, 2017 On 7. 1. 2017 at 9:22 AM, Marlon said: I usually don't like agreeing with this guy ^ But this time I have to. Also: while I am very much pro translate, there's two issues that go with it: 1. it's really not a bad idea learning english a little 2. all chat and local will be flooded with people who simply will not speak english. In games where that has happened before, it started sucking quickly. But if they go ahead and do this, i won't mind contributing for home language. I don't agree with the guy in this case, but idk about usually And your 2 arguments made me comment, I just had to. 1. Whole world is learning English, a lot, and I would really like to see British/American people learning other languages "a little" , or at least tolerating them. 2. Started sucking? Why, cause you didn't understand them? So what, you just don't, why is that a problem? They still have to learn English to communicate with most people, but they could at least talk to other ppl from their country and play the game at least. And Zekezor: - I think it's minimal effort (volunteers would translate) for maximum effect (many people would love Wurm, but they never even heard about it). - Kids don't play Wurm, it's too demanding for most kids. - Foreign languages wouldn't hurt global chat as far as I'm concerned (don't worry, English would still dominate there, cause the British and Americans usually don't speak other languages, so everyone would slowly adopt) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 13, 2017 On 11. 1. 2017 at 11:46 AM, Steveleeb said: I lived in Hong Kong for 6 years and have known many Chinese people since leaving. Coulda learnt Mandarin at school but stupidly chose History and got an F. (i chose a topic we hadn't studied because i didn't care about the Russian Revolution) From experience, I think only the Japanese are more keen to learn English. Some might consider it strange that the cultures that are most driven to learn the language are the ones that don't even use the same alphabet as us. I enjoy speaking to people who don't know English very well. you boil your comms down to logic words and simple associations. there's a pleasure in that. in `keeping things simple` The only Far Eastern i've met in this game was SiGhx and i haven't seen him for a while. i've already +1'd this topic. You lived in Hong Kong, not a very good example for China as a whole, Hong Kong was a British colony, of corse they are keen to learn English. Everywhere except Hong Kong is another story though, people usually don't speak English in Beijing for example, so I'm sure such translation would make a huge difference. Another question is, how many people can the servers even support? That's another subject, but I guess, not that many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) -1, all the Wurm's population must speak English, unless separated in different server clusters. Edited January 13, 2017 by zigozag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 13, 2017 I think the only concern about multiple languages in global would be from a moderation point of view. Even separated in different clusters, you would still need moderators for every language which I'd imagine is logistically more difficult than focusing on a single language. Cool with me if they want to make that Swedish. What better motivation to learn. Had a Prof who specialized in Viking Sagas tell me Icelandic was probably the closest language to what they would have spoken in the 900's-ish. I've also read that Sami (which I think is a language local to Lappland cultures?) would be even closer... and hence imho even more authentic. Still think Wurm Unlimited is ultimately a more suitable platform, realistically. Not at all because of any xenophobic tendencies, but simply for logistical reasons. Come to think of it, if translation flushes out the xenophobes, that's reason enough to do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Translating the game into Mandarin Chinese is a great idea and I am sure that would attract a huge number of new players, as we can see with the "Clash of Clans" and "League of Legends" - and in-game communication could be another issue then. Separation of servers by languages? But in case the Chinese translation will finally be in demand, a handy team of CN translators will be on stand-by. Edited January 23, 2018 by wurmone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 18, 2018 That would all be fine and dandy but iirc from another post on simmilar topic i don't think Wurm even has support for multilanguages as lot of strings are hardcoded in code so there isnt "wurm.txt" to be exported for volunteers to begin with. It's a lot of work imo. And there is also issue of communicating with new players that don't speak english at all, this is mmo after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites