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(Test Server) Crazy FPS lag in new renderer near trees

By Ostentatio, in Client Bugs

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Posted (edited)

New renderer performance seems pretty good for me, mostly better than the old one, especially when around a bunch of dynamic light sources. I'm getting 60fps (vsync'd) in most places, which is neat.

 

... Then if I go near trees, it goes completely to hell.

 

Seriously, standing inside a single almost-mature young fir tree drops it from 60+ down to 45. Being in a fir forest brings it down to 10-15.

 

Disabled transparency AA in NVidia Control Panel to see if that was the problem, but that didn't help.

Also occurs at night, so I don't think it's shadow-related.

 

System info:

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Computer:      MSI MS-7821
CPU:           Intel Core i5-4670K (Haswell-DT, C0)
               3400 MHz (34.00x100.0) @ 4204 MHz (42.00x100.1)
Motherboard:   MSI Z87-G45 GAMING (MS-7821)
Chipset:       Intel Z87 (Lynx Point)
Memory:        16384 MBytes @ 800 MHz, 9-9-9-24
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               NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760, 4096 MB GDDR5 SDRAM
Drive:         WDC WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB, 244.2 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW UH12NS30, BD-ROM
Sound:         Intel Lynx Point PCH - High Definition Audio Controller [C2]
Sound:         NVIDIA GK104 - High Definition Audio Controller
Network:       Killer e2200 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
OS:            Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (x64) Build 7601

 

 

I'm 370% willing to help test what might be causing this, if anybody has any ideas or wants me to test anything.

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Posted (edited)

Still occurring for me as of 4.00-51fab35 Unstable.

 

It may be worth noting that I disabled Transparency Anti Aliasing in my NVidia Control Panel settings, since it was destroying my FPS in stable as well, due to forcing Wurm to anti-alias the edges of every single leaf, blade of grass, etc. However, even with this disabled, my FPS in Unstable goes from 60fps (vsync) to something like 25-30.

 

My apple orchard seems to be especially destructive to my FPS.

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Thanks for your details, Ostentatio.  I've added your statement to the bug as they are still troubleshooting.

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29 minutes ago, Ostentatio said:

Any update on this? It's been a while.

 

Have you tried recently with the new unstable test client?  I've not had the time to test with the new client with all the other changes.  Let me know if you still see the same issue - there should be plenty of trees on test.  If not, let me know and I can assist you if I'm around.

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Thanks, will try later and edit this post with the results.

 

 

EDIT:

Ran through some forests on the available test servers. The problem is happening a lot less consistently, which is better, but also weirder.

 

I say "weirder" because I can't seem to differentiate the situations where it does or doesn't happen. I ran through a chestnut forest for several minutes on Cooking with no trouble (60fps), but in certain spots it would go to 45fps for seemingly no reason, even though none of the surroundings really seemed different in any meaningful way. On the PVP test server, I ran through a large mixed forest with no problems, then hit a patch of fir trees and my frame rate went down to around 35-45fps... but then I moved to another section of the fir patch and it was up into the 50s. It seems to happen more often around fir trees, maybe because they have branches low to the ground so it puts more of that stuff in my field of vision at once? I have no idea why there's such an inconsistency in when it occurs, but it is definitely happening far less often; I just can't isolate any variable that might be causing it in some cases but not others.

 

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Loading window positions from C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\windows_1920x1080.txt
Loading props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\windows_1920x1080.txt
Gui initialized
Startup Phase - Preparing terrain...
Startup Phase - Connecting ..
Disabling Nagles
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\_Event.2017-01.txt
Disabling Nagles
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\GL-Freedom.2017-01.txt
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\Freedom.2017-01.txt
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\Trade.2017-01.txt
Login successful
Executing C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\configs\default\autorun.txt
Starting update of login splash image...
Initializing font texture for SansSerif (12). Texture Size: 128
Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11, bold). Texture Size: 128
Finished loading new login splash image!
No mapping found for hair0
Water reflection offscreen size 1024x1024
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\_Combat.2017-01.txt
Writing to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_logs\_Skills.2017-01.txt
Time is Fri Jan 27 09:51:50 EST 2017
Performing final cleanup after playing  1m
Saving props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\playerdata_test.txt
Saving props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\configs\default\gamesettings.txt
Saving props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\stats.txt
Dumped skills to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\test_dumps\skills.20170127.0951.txt
Saving window positions to C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\windows_1920x1080.txt
Saving props file C:\Users\USERNAME\wurm-u\players\Circe\windows_1920x1080.txt
Destroying game window
java.lang.NullPointerException
	at sun.awt.SunToolkit.getSystemEventQueueImplPP(Unknown Source)
	at sun.awt.SunToolkit.getSystemEventQueueImplPP(Unknown Source)
	at sun.awt.SunToolkit.getSystemEventQueueImpl(Unknown Source)
	at java.awt.Toolkit.getEventQueue(Unknown Source)
	at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeLater(Unknown Source)
	at sun.awt.windows.WToolkit.displayChanged(Unknown Source)
	at sun.awt.windows.WToolkit.eventLoop(Native Method)
	at sun.awt.windows.WToolkit.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Shutting down OpenAL subsystem.
Collada Model Loader exited.
WOM Loader exited.
WOM Loader exited.
Job executor 0 terminating
Job executor 1 terminating
Job executor 2 terminating
Job executor 3 terminating
Running garbage collector...
Fast Clock Workaround Thread exited.
Running finalization...
Goodbye.
Exit.
WARNING: OpenAL was already stopped.

 

 

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Editing contents of last post to include console logs from my test session. This may have been from a very brief session after my more extensive one, so I'll try to test again later to see if a more thorough log helps.

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13 hours ago, Ostentatio said:

Editing contents of last post to include console logs from my test session. This may have been from a very brief session after my more extensive one, so I'll try to test again later to see if a more thorough log helps.

 

Thank you for your details.  Were your 'times of the day' similar for each test?  Could the sun glaring down on the ground or the trees have made a difference?  I 'feel' there is some lag in some places, but also can't reproduce it consistently to show the devs where or explain why.  I appreciate your efforts.

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On 1/28/2017 at 9:50 AM, Alectrys said:

 

Thank you for your details.  Were your 'times of the day' similar for each test?  Could the sun glaring down on the ground or the trees have made a difference?  I 'feel' there is some lag in some places, but also can't reproduce it consistently to show the devs where or explain why.  I appreciate your efforts.

 

The laggy bits didn't happen at specific times of day; all of this testing was done during in-game nighttime.

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Still getting in unstable.  console log:  https://pastebin.com/NyVesrS3

 

Moving within half a dozen tiles of a thick forest is the difference between looking at the boughs with 60 FPS and tanking to 20-25 FPS.  I'm getting this in an area that's almost entirely undeveloped, with almost no light sources or constructions in local.

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2 hours ago, Noizhead said:

Still getting in unstable.  console log:  https://pastebin.com/NyVesrS3

 

Try updating your graphics driver, it's fairly old. Unlikely that it's the cause but might help some

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