Posted May 16, 2016 For example, to be a 'Diabolist', you need to have 4 titles total, and a majority of them needs to be black; additionally, you can't have 2 black titles, or 3 black titles, because those would give you the titles of "Witch doctor" and "Death knight" (or their female counterparts). You can't have 1 black title either, because then you wouldn't have a majority This means you need to have exactly 4 black titles. There are only 3 black titles. (per gender) I haven't checked all the combinations, so perhaps there are others that are also impossible to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 Thanks for making this post, asdf. I am down to only 6 personal goals left to complete, and while some of them are easier and some are harder to get, it doesn't seem quite right to have one (in my case, "Become a Diabolist") that is impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 Agreed. There are only three black sorcery items. If you have used 0 or 1, you can't have a majority in black items, and if you have 2 or 3 you get other titles. "Become a Diabolist" is a personal goal for a lot of people, so it's not a harmless bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 Added to the list, thanks for the report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 @asdf I actually get to prove you wrong for a change! Diabolist requires 4 titles total, the majority being black. Thus you would need exactly 2 black, 1 red, and one "other". I will give one example, but I'd rather not spoil it for everyone. When WU came out, before I was a developer, I made a handy spreadsheet that has all of this information listed - mostly because I was curious. Diabolist = black tome of magic, libram of the night, white cherry, uttacha slime This is only one configuration. There are others. I could be wrong, but I can easily spawn these later on Test and double check. I'm also 100% sure I've seen folks with this title in-game. I didn't pay much mind to titles after becoming a developer, the list was made purely as a player looking to solve all of the mysteries of Wurm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Keenan said: @asdf I actually get to prove you wrong for a change! Diabolist requires 4 titles total, the majority being black. Thus you would need exactly 2 black, 1 red, and one "other". I will give one example, but I'd rather not spoil it for everyone. When WU came out, before I was a developer, I made a handy spreadsheet that has all of this information listed - mostly because I was curious. Diabolist = black tome of magic, libram of the night, white cherry, uttacha slime This is only one configuration. There are others. I could be wrong, but I can easily spawn these later on Test and double check. I'm also 100% sure I've seen folks with this title in-game. I didn't pay much mind to titles after becoming a developer, the list was made purely as a player looking to solve all of the mysteries of Wurm. I personally would appreciate a test, I'd like to know if it's literally impossible or just... practically impossible thanks, Keenan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Xalorum said: I personally would appreciate a test, I'd like to know if it's literally impossible or just... practically impossible thanks, Keenan. One fire at a time. Bridges is down... does that mean I'm burning bridges? ... Dev humor ftw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, Keenan said: One fire at a time. Bridges is down... does that mean I'm burning bridges? ... Dev humor ftw no hurry. I still need to make a caravel, fantastic item, and convince someone (coughnadrojcough) to let me be king for 1 second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) @Keenan With the code i'm reading, if you have 2 black titles, you get a Witch Doctor (14)/Night Hag (4, female) And if you have 3 black titles, you get Death Knight (17)/Demon Queen (36). Code below (Abilities.java). If the most recent WO release is different than this, then obviously this bug report is invalid. Quote else if (isBlack) { if (performer.getSex() == 1) { if (black == 2) { return 4; } if (black == 3) { return 36; } } else { if (black == 2) { return 14; } if (black == 3) { return 17; } } if (nums == 4) { performer.achievement(331); return 18; } performer.achievement(329); return 38; } Edited May 16, 2016 by asdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 16, 2016 29 minutes ago, asdf said: @Keenan With the code i'm reading, if you have 2 black titles, you get a Witch Doctor (14)/Night Hag (4, female) And if you have 3 black titles, you get Death Knight (17)/Demon Queen (36). Code below (Abilities.java). If the most recent WO release is different than this, then obviously this bug report is invalid. isBlack means you have more black abilities than any other abilities. nums is your total ability count, not your total black count. In that section of code, you have nums, black, red, rest respectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 17, 2016 On 5/16/2016 at 0:19 PM, Keenan said: @asdf I actually get to prove you wrong for a change! Diabolist requires 4 titles total, the majority being black. Thus you would need exactly 2 black, 1 red, and one "other". I will give one example, but I'd rather not spoil it for everyone. When WU came out, before I was a developer, I made a handy spreadsheet that has all of this information listed - mostly because I was curious. Diabolist = black tome of magic, libram of the night, white cherry, uttacha slime This is only one configuration. There are others. I could be wrong, but I can easily spawn these later on Test and double check. I'm also 100% sure I've seen folks with this title in-game. I didn't pay much mind to titles after becoming a developer, the list was made purely as a player looking to solve all of the mysteries of Wurm. I see you went over this in #wurm, but to reiterate for those just reading this thread: Because of the ordering of the code, there is no way to get Diabolist. In the example given, you would receive one of the titles for having used two black items. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2017 well hopefully in the next update this will be fixed.. I came across this problem myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 23, 2018 +1 to fixing it! It was explained to me that this is a simple fix as it is just the code not continuing after it succeeds a check for 3 items. Is it not that simple @Keenan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 10, 2018 Fixed with the June 5 update: https://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/163262-wurm-online-12th-anniversary-patch-notes-5jun18/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites