Glasshollow Harbor will lose an entrance

[RockyBalboa 565]

The usual entrance into Glasshollow Harbor will soon be shut closed, with deliberate intent to cause difficulty to others.

 

I felt that I should inform those who are intended to be affected by this, and to clarify that Rydell is not responsible, should the threats be carried out.

 

For the purpose of explaining the closure of the harbor entrance, I will disclose the interaction and GM decision:

 

Personal conversation with GM:

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Logging started 2016-03-03
[15:57:55] <Prawn> Hello
[15:58:16] <Rockybalboa> Hello
[15:58:25] <Rockybalboa> You were speaking with Rydell?
[15:58:45] <Prawn> Correct.
[15:59:01] <Prawn> Now, what is this player doing to the area?
[15:59:13] <Rockybalboa> Well, I have just written two paragraphs explaining everything, but it's all in the chat logs.
[15:59:20] <Rockybalboa> Should I copy-paste it all in?
[15:59:40] <Prawn> Sure that works.
[16:00:21] <Rockybalboa> Ok, I will say "Done" once I have fit it all in.
[16:00:27] <Prawn> Ok.
[16:00:38] <Rockybalboa> Russwoods has directly stated in local chat and PMs, both towards my partner Rydell and I, that he would be deliberately causing hardship on random travelers by blocking their travel and burying their
[16:00:48] <Rockybalboa> their moored ships with dirt. He then threatened to "point the blame" at us (particularly Rydell, as I have not been responding to him in chat) by telling other players that we were responsible for cl
[16:01:02] <Rockybalboa> for closing-off the harbor for visitors to Glasshollow Market. He threatens this because we refused to build him a road through our deed, Glasshold.
[16:01:12] <Rockybalboa> Since this began, we have received frequent taunting in local from him and his other -woods alts (Lynnwoods, Chaswoods), although we disregard his threats and try to generally ignore him. I am rather
[16:01:33] <Rockybalboa> I am rather certain that he has dumped junk items (beds, rafts) and woodscraps onto my adjacent deed, Golden Glass, on at least two occasions. Even though I have never responded to him, he has repeat
[16:01:45] <Rockybalboa> repeated the threat multiple times, including renaming his deed 'Revenge Island'. He has actually begun to close off the harbor as of this morning.
[16:01:47] <Rockybalboa> Done
[16:02:09] <Prawn> Ok.
[16:02:56] <Rockybalboa> He has also disrupted the highway is his deed, but in a super minor way, changing the sand to dirt. He probably doesn't realize
[16:03:27] <Prawn> Please take me to the patch of highway this player has changed.
[16:03:35] <Prawn> And how long ago did he make those changes?
[16:04:02] <Rockybalboa> Very recently, within a week or so I'd say
[16:04:50] <Rockybalboa> I am nearly at the spot
[16:04:56] <Prawn> Ok. Go to it and tell me when you are there. Editing a highway in any manner is very bad without approval.
[16:05:20] <Rockybalboa> I am here now. Standing on it
[16:06:02] <Prawn> This is ondeed, how did he manage to change it.
[16:06:16] <Rockybalboa> This is his deed
[16:06:38] <Rockybalboa> Part of his revamp to close the harbor
[16:06:49] <Rockybalboa> He has begun right over here
[16:06:57] <Rockybalboa> Look
[16:10:45] <Prawn> Have you guys done any terraforming in the perimeter of this player?
[16:12:00] <Rockybalboa> Yes, when he shrank his deed to 11x11, we began digging around our newly placed deed. I was digging, and I stopped as soon as he asked.
[16:12:29] <Rockybalboa> His own words to us: Perimeter is fair game
[16:12:46] <Rockybalboa> But we continued to dig closer to Glasshold instead
[16:13:34] <Prawn> Glasshold appears to have been built in the bay.
[16:14:18] <Rockybalboa> As in? I don't understand
[16:14:28] <Rockybalboa> It was existing land
[16:14:34] <Prawn> Ah ok.
[16:14:55] <Rockybalboa> I personally placed the token on my alt, Naersalgg
[16:15:25] <Rockybalboa> In order to reclaim the market stalls after the mayor of Old Haven Shore quit and let his deed rot
[16:16:14] <Rockybalboa> That area had been Russwood's land until he shrank down to 11x11. That deed was called "Glasshollow Market Plaza" but he renamed it to "Revenge Island" recently
[16:18:56] <Prawn> When was the name changed?
[16:20:06] <Rockybalboa> Right after he started making the threats.
[16:20:31] <Rockybalboa> I can check logs to see when this may have occoured
[16:20:52] <Rockybalboa> If I can somehow tie it to something I remember saying
[16:23:59] <Rockybalboa> Feb 7 I noticed
[16:24:29] <Rockybalboa> Is when I told Rydell about it in a cellphone text
[16:25:48] <Prawn> Ok.

 

 

GM decision in local:

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Logging started 2016-03-02
[16:56:02] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Old lava spider!
[17:09:01] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Old crocodile!
[17:48:36] <Jola> help
[17:48:36] <Freedom Isles tower guard> Run quickly now, aged huge spider!
[17:48:36] <Freedom Isles tower guard> I come as well, aged huge spider.
[17:53:38] <Avia> guards
[17:53:55] <Rydell> include a    !  after that.
[17:53:59] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Adolescent hell hound!
[17:54:07] <Avia> guards
[17:54:21] <Rydell> or "help"
[18:06:04] <Avia> help
[18:06:12] <Avia> help
[18:06:41] <Avia> guards
[18:06:54] <Rydell> you need a  !   after guards.  So  "guards!"
[18:07:01] <Avia> oh
[18:07:08] <Avia> guards!
[18:07:08] <Freedom Isles tower guard> I have to slay you now, aged troll!
[18:07:08] <Freedom Isles tower guard> Coming for the aged troll.
[18:07:08] <Freedom Isles tower guard> Joining in on the aged troll.
[18:07:08] <Freedom Isles tower guard> You better believe it, aged troll.
[18:07:16] <Rydell> There we go =]
[18:51:11] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Old brown bear!
[18:51:41] <Paulofdune> we can flatten that area
[18:51:45] <Paulofdune> if needed
[18:51:54] <Paulofdune> or we just change tiles,,,, few signs and lamps
[18:53:10] <Paulofdune> that moss area
[18:53:32] <Rydell> Your not in Alliance tab, by the way
[18:53:44] <Paulofdune> oh 
Logging started 2016-03-03
[16:26:08] <Prawn> Ok listen up everyone.
[16:26:43] <Prawn> Anything said between both parties, or said about both parties involved here is hearsay and unable to be proven at this time.
[16:26:58] <Prawn> Furthermore the facts show that this landbridge is connecting two of a player's deeds.
[16:27:13] <Prawn> This landbridge blocks off access to the harbor from one side, but not entirely blocking access.
[16:27:52] <Prawn> Due to not blocking access, and it going between a player's two deeds, I am deeming the landbridge legal, as the intentions for building the landbridge cannot be proven at this time.
[16:28:15] <Rockybalboa> Russwoods own chatlogs Feb 8 in local with character Tealight
[16:28:22] <Rockybalboa> Russwoods own words of intent
[16:28:48] <Prawn> Chatlogs can easily be manipulated, and are rarely if ever used as direct evidence towards a case.
[16:28:59] <Rockybalboa> You don't have access as a GM?
[16:29:18] <Prawn> Staff cannot see server logs no.
[16:29:43] <Prawn> Furthermore, if either one of the parties involved here is spouting things at eachother in local, then make use of the /ignore feature provided.
[16:30:29] <Rockybalboa> I know you dumped items and littered on my deed, Russ
[16:30:49] <Rockybalboa> I was right not to have taken the advice of thers so many months ago
[16:30:50] <Prawn> This issue is a player dispute currently, and the facts that a landbridge is being created between two deeds a player owns, is the only thing here that I can judge the case on.
[16:31:12] <Prawn> Until it is easier proven that griefing has been commited by either party it is a player dispute.
[16:31:17] <Rockybalboa> Of course, his deed is his. I didn't care for the malice behind it.
[16:31:25] <Rockybalboa> Thanks for your time, GM
[16:32:27] <Rockybalboa> Focuses people into our own canal ;D
[16:32:55] <Rockybalboa> Was worth a shot taking you down.
[16:33:06] <Rockybalboa> Back to my own business.
[16:35:51] <Russwoods> yes back to your own business, i was going to build a 8 tile bridge herem but i will think about that since this justed happened

 

 

It should be noted that there is a long history and an old grudge with Rockybalboa's previous owner, and I have attempted to ignore this person for almost a year now.

Edited March 4, 2016 by RockyBalboa
updated title

[Rydell 10]

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Logging started 2016-02-08
[08:56:58] <Russwoods> good moring rydell
[08:57:17] <Russwoods> i want to ty for the motivation
[08:57:39] <Russwoods> i am going to build a 2 lane road into the water for my 2 deeds
[08:58:02] <Russwoods> since i expanded them together yesterday
[08:58:19] <Rydell> Yea, you've said all this already. That's fine.
[09:00:09] <Russwoods> and my deed amberlynn is along your perimeter going to your south and my ded revenge island is on your ea
[09:00:16] <Russwoods> east
[09:00:33] <Rydell> Ok
[09:01:43] <Russwoods> just wanted you to know when people start to complian about not being able to get to the market i will laid thee blame your way, and have fun at the perimetr since i will not be using it or need it
[09:02:13] <Rydell> Ok
[09:02:18] <Rydell> Thanks.
[09:02:53] <Russwoods> no worries my friend just being helpful and ty again
[09:03:20] <Tealight> aren't there other ways into the market?
[09:03:29] <Rydell> Yes, there are.
[09:03:32] <Russwoods> yes your canal
[09:03:37] <Tealight> and are you trying to frame rydell? lol
[09:03:45] <Tealight> local drama lol
[09:03:47] <Rydell> Just ignore him.
[09:04:06] <Russwoods> people hate using a canal since they will not be able to see it
[09:04:16] <Tealight> i saw it
[09:04:30] <Tealight> i think theres a thread too
[09:04:41] <Russwoods> then you did well so no worries on my part for cutting the water way off

 

[RockyBalboa 565]

Rydell has submitted logs at my request, as were referenced in the discussion.

[zigozag 918]

GMs having no special GM tools and accesses beside their wand is just sad bad. Can't really blame them, but rather their lack of possibilities which Rolf provides.

Edited March 3, 2016 by zigozag

[Sila 339]

Russwoods again!   he never stops first he destroy highway now he wana block sea!  i told 3 years ago to enki that he need ban or there will be even more problems in future with him.  nobody listen till something like this happen 

 

 

 

edit: seems like gms sort all with bridge   good work gms   land bridges are past

 

 

some of the history 

 

Edited March 4, 2016 by Sila

[RockyBalboa 565]

GM returns to local:

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[18:42:22] <Russwoods> now this is grieving i am calling the gm
[18:43:33] <Russwoods> you have no right on this road
[18:46:40] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Old black bear!
[18:52:29] <Russwoods> Prawn is on his way
[18:52:45] <Paulofdune> [00:52:24] You will not do any damage to the low stone wall with that.
[18:53:46] <Russwoods> my goodness you are a sore loser
[19:04:52] <Prawn> Oye
[19:05:02] <Prawn> What in blue blazes is going on here
[19:05:04] <Russwoods> ty for coming
[19:05:49] <Russwoods> he could not live with your dicision
[19:06:29] <Paulofdune> i just come online and see what he is doing!
[19:06:44] <Paulofdune> and what he do with highway
[19:06:48] <Prawn> Rocky, you have walled another player in?
[19:06:50] <Paulofdune> totaly destroy it
[19:06:54] <Prawn> There is no highway here that I see.
[19:07:03] <Paulofdune> look here what he do
[19:07:07] <Russwoods> i am making it still
[19:07:09] <Rockybalboa> He is not trapped
[19:07:21] <Russwoods> i cannot move my cart
[19:07:32] <Prawn> There is no destroyed highway here.
[19:07:32] <Paulofdune> he rise boat out of water
[19:07:41] <Paulofdune> was 3 wide now is 1 wide
[19:07:53] <Prawn> No it is bordered by sand.
[19:07:53] <Paulofdune> conecting 2 deeds
[19:08:00] <Paulofdune> not everywhere
[19:08:01] <Russwoods> i am building it to my other deed and this is what he has done to me
[19:08:15] <Paulofdune> here is greass
[19:08:26] <Prawn> I see the dirt there yes, but I am told that is being coverted to marble slabbing, which the player has a right to do.
[19:08:40] <Russwoods> is this how he treats every1 when he does not get his way
[19:08:43] <Paulofdune> is that way for like 4 months
[19:09:13] <Prawn> Now, as for him raising the boat out of the water like that, I would imagine it is on the fault of the driver for placing it deliberately in his path.
[19:09:33] <Russwoods> yes rocky was that driver
[19:09:55] <Paulofdune> there must be pass for boats
[19:10:04] <Russwoods> that boat was just put here
[19:10:06] <Paulofdune> for caravel
[19:10:08] <Prawn> There is, on the north side.
[19:10:12] <Paulofdune> there is no other pass for caravel
[19:10:28] <Paulofdune> water too swollow
[19:10:31] <Russwoods> it is infront of me now
[19:10:46] <Prawn> There is no rule dictating a caravel must be able to pass. The entrance to the harbor is still to the north.
[19:11:19] <Paulofdune> so no more bus here :S
[19:11:27] <Paulofdune> sad story for market
[19:11:31] <Rockybalboa> Yep
[19:11:39] <Prawn> Dredge it down further.
[19:11:58] <Paulofdune> well rydell is kosed on his deed and is owner of pass
[19:12:21] <Paulofdune> he cant dredge becose of that
[19:12:47] <Prawn> I see a throroughfare right here that is not next to Russ's deeds.
[19:12:51] <Paulofdune> simple bridge will sort out all problems i would says
[19:13:33] <Prawn> Glasshold is ontop of a a strip of bay entrance right now that I'd imagine Rydell is not KOSed on.
[19:14:07] <Paulofdune> well is deeded area... that other pass is offdeed   ... then some sign must be planted by gms at that pass to not be altered
[19:14:16] <Paulofdune> so is offical pass for boats
[19:14:32] <Russwoods> nobody is kos on amberlynn for that would pervent use of a hiway which is against wurm rules
[19:14:59] <Paulofdune> we speak for revange island next to it
[19:15:10] <Paulofdune> interesting name that was just changed week ago
[19:15:16] <Paulofdune> waste of 5s
[19:15:40] <Rockybalboa> I just want people to come and enjoy Glasshollow without being targeted to punish me
[19:15:50] <Rockybalboa> This is absolutely malicious
[19:16:05] <Prawn> You built the walls to block him off is just as bad.
[19:16:17] <Paulofdune> well i cant help rocky i just come visit my merchant
[19:16:39] <Rockybalboa> Yeah, I saved the harbor. My bad
[19:16:52] <Prawn> The harbor is still accessible as I told you.
[19:16:56] <Rockybalboa> Ok
[19:16:58] <Paulofdune> but he is not walled?  do he?
[19:17:11] <Russwoods> yes for i have no access to my island deed and i am making a road which GM Prawn saided i was allowed to do
[19:17:24] <Paulofdune> that can always be diged away
[19:17:28] <Paulofdune> since offdeed
[19:18:00] <Russwoods> and rocky has no right beening here to stop me like this
[19:18:08] <Rockybalboa> We have access to perimeter. Russwoods said "Perimeter is fair game"
[19:18:15] <Rockybalboa> We agree
[19:18:46] <Russwoods> this perimeter has nothing to do with you, none of your deeds are connected to it
[19:18:49] <Paulofdune> we can make bridge for you im sure rocky?  and everyone happy
[19:19:04] <Rockybalboa> We offered that, Rydell did
[19:19:05] <Paulofdune> well is offdeed wild and crazy for everyone
[19:19:07] <Rockybalboa> Russ refused
[19:19:48] <Russwoods> russ what your offer to help build a bridge, like i would trust you in that matter
[19:19:52] <Paulofdune> oh didnt know...  is up to gm then...  we already giveup on highway last time when was destroyed
[19:20:20] <Rydell> I would gladly do all the work to build a bridge anywhere, seeing as I am being paid to work here.
[19:20:22] <Russwoods> this is how you treat people here, when you do not get your way
[19:20:28] <Prawn> Russ, if they built a bridge for you would you go along with that.
[19:20:29] <Paulofdune> i can help with bridge no problem
[19:20:41] <Paulofdune> got 1k mortar ready
[19:20:41] <Prawn> It connects tyour deeds and allows them easier access.
[19:20:50] <Russwoods> i will build it for i do not trust him doing the design i want
[19:21:11] <Prawn> So your intent is to NOT build a full landbridge?
[19:21:19] <Russwoods> and you said i could make a landbridge if i wanted too,
[19:21:37] <Russwoods> it was not until he stsrted treating me like this
[19:21:38] <Prawn> I know, at the moment I am trying to resolve this.
[19:22:11] <Prawn> Hey, both sides have done stuff to eachother. It is an eye for an eye and an ear for an ear and it just keeps going.
[19:22:23] <Russwoods> and the market has acces coming in from the north
[19:22:28] <Paulofdune> [00:53:37] <Russwoods> my goodness you are a sore loser
[19:22:35] <Paulofdune> ypu dont treat us nice aswell
[19:22:58] <Rydell> And its got to the point he is taking it out on all the possible boat travelers, its not about getting to his deed (which he has usable boats to get to and from with)
[19:23:02] <Prawn> How about this, Russ, you provide the schematics pricisely how you want for this bridge, Rocky and crew you build it precisely how Russ wants it.
[19:23:03] <Russwoods> rocky owns most of the deeds on the water going going but he has nothing to make a canal
[19:23:56] <Russwoods> i want a flat bridge marble from here to the revenge island deed
[19:24:15] <Paulofdune> citizens from silver glass resort are also willing to help with materials if needed
[19:24:44] <Rockybalboa> I'm always up for a market grind
[19:24:45] <Paulofdune> flat need 2 houses or higer greound...
[19:24:53] <Paulofdune> grounds*
[19:24:59] <Russwoods> and all of thisd mess gone, for i am building walls in this perimeter in the tiles i want it tonight
[19:25:13] <Russwoods> this bridge
[19:25:27] <Paulofdune> well...  yes sir
[19:25:32] <Prawn> Hey easy now. Rocky, would it be possible to bash out the walls?
[19:25:51] <Prawn> And maybe not done by tonight, but somewhat start on this bridge?
[19:25:51] <Russwoods> what if the bridge is not done tonight
[19:26:18] <Russwoods> if it is done tonight i promise i will make a landbridge
[19:26:26] <Prawn> You are not helping Russ.
[19:26:28] <Paulofdune> only russwood can plan it ... we cant becose perimeter
[19:26:39] <Russwoods> rocky draw 1st blood
[19:26:41] <Prawn> Rocky and crew how long would it take to build the bridge that Russ is proposing?
[19:26:55] <Rydell> Negative on that first blood. He has threatened this harbor for months.
[19:26:58] <Prawn> At this point it doesn't matter who drew first blood, I'm ending this blood.
[19:27:06] <Russwoods> correct
[19:27:08] <Paulofdune> if he plan it we already got shards and mortar we just need to dig more marble
[19:27:20] <Rockybalboa> I'll build, it's take as long as it takes as I work on it while I'm online
[19:27:20] <Paulofdune> right rocky?
[19:27:29] <Russwoods> just tell rocky and crew to stay off my road and to let me alone
[19:27:43] <Paulofdune> after is planed work is done in 48h with silver glass help
[19:27:48] <Prawn> Russ, please. Now, Rocky and crew would 3-4 days tops be acceptable?
[19:27:59] <Prawn> 2 days sounds good to me.
[19:28:05] <Paulofdune> well we dont know when will be planed
[19:28:14] <Paulofdune> is up to russ that he plan it we cant
[19:28:21] <Rockybalboa> I will make ernest effort
[19:28:27] <Rockybalboa> I cannot predict the future
[19:28:33] <Russwoods> lol i do not trust him
[19:28:38] <Paulofdune> i will help build aswell
[19:28:39] <Rockybalboa> It will be as fast as my skills and reasonable humanly time
[19:28:39] <Prawn> Um, a flat bridge at the level the landbridge is at now will block boats...
[19:28:50] <Paulofdune> cant be build anyway
[19:28:56] <Prawn> ?
[19:28:57] <Paulofdune> game dont allow
[19:29:00] <Paulofdune> error
[19:29:05] <Paulofdune> it says too close to water
[19:29:08] <Prawn> Ah, must be above X above water I forgot.
[19:29:10] <Russwoods> i play alone i have no idea
[19:29:12] <Paulofdune> yes
[19:29:19] <Prawn> Russ, can an arched marble bridge be made instead?
[19:29:39] <Paulofdune> also only citizen of deed that is in perimeter can plan it so we cant help with that till is planed
[19:29:51] <Prawn> Ok Russ will be planning it yes.
[19:29:55] <Russwoods> i have seen his acrhed bridges they look like po-po
[19:30:01] <Rydell> Even just a several square wide (enough for boats) would be fine. If he wants an "entire" bridge covering a huge span, that would take more than 2 days.
[19:30:03] <Prawn> Ok Russ, then in that case.
[19:30:17] <Paulofdune> nobody cant plan bridges or houses in someone else perimeter... but can build
[19:30:17] <Prawn> The beginning and end of where you want the bridge must be raised just a bit.
[19:30:33] <Prawn> Then a flat bridge can be constructed,
[19:31:01] <Russwoods> he can add dirt to it since he like buildong stuff here
[19:31:14] <Russwoods> 20 dirt ok
[19:31:24] <Prawn> But part of the other end will be on your deed no?
[19:31:43] <Prawn> I don't believe they'd be able to drop the dirt there.
[19:31:48] <Russwoods> he can put it in the perimeter
[19:31:57] <Prawn> Ah ok.
[19:32:06] <Prawn> Rocky and crew, this sound good for you?
[19:32:21] <Prawn> 2 tile wide marble flat bridge, about 2 days or so to be built.
[19:32:25] <Russwoods> i was going to stop and work from the island deed until this  stuff happened
[19:32:30] <Paulofdune> we can come back when he plan bridge ,,,  if sound good becose we cant plan it for him is his permiter
[19:32:47] <Prawn> Ok, so Russ plans it and Rocky/crew builds it.
[19:32:53] <Paulofdune> indeed
[19:32:56] <Russwoods> what genatees do i have it will be done
[19:32:57] <Rockybalboa> Good. Rydell needs to be off KoS to help work
[19:32:58] <Prawn> Russ will make up the other end so that it can be planned.
[19:33:01] <Paulofdune> and we bring our materials for free
[19:33:17] <Prawn> My GM directive to everyone to play nice or I WILL rip your hearts out.
[19:33:24] <Rockybalboa> All I want, thanks
[19:33:28] <Russwoods> rydell is not welcomed here so he can go away
[19:33:35] <Paulofdune> tnx alot prawn for your time
[19:33:49] <Rydell> I am welcomed by Rocky and the others here.
[19:33:52] <Paulofdune> come visit us again next time but shoping
[19:33:53] <Prawn> Rydell will be helping build the bridge you want Russ, just let him help then place on KOS again if you want.
[19:34:09] <Prawn> Place aside your dislike of him just until the bridge is complete.
[19:34:18] <Russwoods> 2 days
[19:34:42] <Russwoods> but i want it done tonight cause i cannot trust rocky
[19:34:53] <Paulofdune> if posible can this fances be removed?  and rocky you remove boat aswell so russ can do his work
[19:34:55] <Rydell> Wow.
[19:35:02] <Rydell> Anyone have a time machine?
[19:35:15] <Rockybalboa> I'll move the boat right now
[19:35:16] <Prawn> Does not matter that you don't trust him, I am telling them and you to get along to build this bridge.
[19:35:25] <Russwoods> this bridge is only going to be 6 tiles
[19:35:34] <Prawn> That is fine.
[19:36:00] <Prawn> Ok so final plan is as follows:
[19:36:14] <Prawn> Rocky/crew remove the stone walling so Russ may get out.
[19:36:15] <Paulofdune> just plan it rocky and crew will get marble shards and other materials ready
[19:36:22] <Russwoods> here is a question if they mess with this perimeter what is to stop them from messing with my other perimeter on land
[19:36:29] <Prawn> Russ finishes the other side of the landbridge to where he wants it then plans the bridge.
[19:36:46] <Prawn> Russ removes KOS from Rydell. Rocky/crew build bridge in ~2 days.
[19:36:55] <Paulofdune> we need catapult or something... can you remove that walls prawn for us to speed up work
[19:37:12] <Rydell> Permiter and deeded land are 2 different things. Perimiter is fair game all across WURM for all players.
[19:37:55] <Prawn> I've removed the walls.
[19:37:56] <Russwoods> and i want a promise in front of you that none of my other deeds to incule the perimeter will be mess with from this point on
[19:38:09] <Paulofdune> well rydell better to stop talking and go with us for marble and left russwoods plan bridge so we can build it
[19:38:22] <Russwoods> from rocky and i want it in local so i have a record of it
[19:38:47] <Rydell> You can prevent us with permissions on your deeded land. You cant stop anyone from doing anything on free land outside of it.
[19:39:04] <Prawn> I cannot make that promise happenas perimeter is fair game, however, stop screwing with eachother, seriously.
[19:39:16] <Prawn> I don't care he did this or she did that, just quit it.
[19:39:24] <Russwoods> and this banner gone please
[19:39:26] <Prawn> You have deeded land, just work on that.
[19:39:32] <Prawn> They can pick the banner up.
[19:40:06] <Russwoods> please ask him to get his banner
[19:40:33] <Prawn> Paul this is your banner right?
[19:40:43] <Paulofdune> omw
[19:40:51] <Prawn> Thank you.
[19:40:55] <Paulofdune> np
[19:41:00] <Paulofdune> will remove it anyway
[19:41:12] <Prawn> Ok.
[19:42:54] <Prawn> Now, I will check back in later, and if ###### has gone sideways I will rip everyone's hearts out here ok?
[19:43:02] <Rockybalboa> I will comply
[19:43:12] <Prawn> Just do what I outlined above.
[19:43:21] <Paulofdune> everyone will stay away till bridge is planed
[19:43:26] <Prawn> Ok.
[19:43:37] <Paulofdune> if he need someone to hold pole for it just say
[19:43:44] <Russwoods> i agree tell rocky he can drop the dirt into the perimeter anytime he want too on revenge island so we can get it started
[19:44:22] <Rydell> Im still KOS
[19:44:24] <Paulofdune> he will read that he must be afk or something i need to go now
[19:44:25] <Prawn> Russ, you know what needs to be done regarding the height of the bridge, you can more easily drop some dirt.
[19:44:30] <Paulofdune> is 4 am here
[19:44:37] <Prawn> And take Rydell off KOS for now please.
[19:44:51] <Russwoods> ok i have to log out and get my alt
[19:45:17] <Russwoods> i will log out after i get min from prawn
[19:45:52] <Prawn> Aye I am checking on the minimum height for a flat bridge.
[19:46:06] <Rockybalboa> The dirt is part of your land. We'll do the bridge and materials for it.
[19:46:21] <Paulofdune> i know that
[19:46:52] <Russwoods> then i need help to get the dirt from the island deed to it perimeter
[19:47:03] <Rockybalboa> You have a ship
[19:47:06] <Rydell> ^
[19:47:07] <Paulofdune> around 30 + from water lvl
[19:47:18] <Prawn> I was under the impression it was 80.
[19:47:22] <Russwoods> i will load it on my ship but i need your help to get it into the water so we can start the bridge
[19:47:23] <Prawn> Let me see here...
[19:47:33] <Paulofdune> im on that sort of bridge now
[19:47:42] <Paulofdune> if you come check is 1 floor above water
[19:47:54] <Prawn> Ok I see you.
[19:48:02] <Prawn> So about 30 dirt Russ ok?
[19:48:21] <Russwoods> ok 30 dirt
[19:48:34] <Prawn> Yes the start and end of the bridge must be 30 dirt above the water line.
[19:48:47] <Russwoods> ok i can do that
[19:48:50] <Prawn> Ok.
[19:49:29] <Russwoods> i will finish here and get it ready then go the island deed and start there but like i said i will need help to get dirt into water
[19:49:51] <Russwoods> since we wan to move fast on it
[19:57:09] <Prawn> Ok, you all know what to do now. I'll be back a bit later to check in on things.
[19:57:14] <Rockybalboa> Thank you
[19:57:32] <Paulofdune> need sleep   cu later everyone
[19:57:41] <Rydell> Plan bridge -> 2 day timer starts -> everyone enjoys bridge. Got it.
[19:57:48] <Prawn> Ok.

 

(GM exits local)

 

[Keenan 5,539]

Chaos has a lot of land... and you can kill your neighbors when you disagree... I'm not even advocating for a kingdom here. JK, MR. Either would be glad for another.

[Chiqa 742]

Really? And we needed to know all this why? Seems like it is between the parties involved and GM Prawn. 

[Russwoods 75]

5 hours ago, zigozag said:

GMs having no special GM tools and accesses beside their wand is just sad bad. Can't really blame them, but rather their lack of possibilities which Rolf provides.

yes I am building a road between my 2 deeds amberlynn and revenge island cause revenge island does not have a road or access to it, and let gets this clear, rocky cried to GM enik saying I destroyed a road, but the gm saided I could put cobblestone in the middle and sand on the side, .I did not change the road but the texture of it, and GM enik approved it, just like GM Prawn approved my choose of a bridge or a landbridge, I was willing to meet rocky half way on this issue but since he like to omit stuff here is the deal we were going to make a build between the 2 deeds but since he likes talking trash that idea went out the window as of now, be well and good gaming

[Ostentatio 1,970]

Who's enik?

[Cecci 1,609]

Disgusting.

Blocking off the biggest market on Xanadu should be punished, not rewarded.

[Lotus1 315]

This seems more like typical wurm drama with both parties throwing sand in each other's eyes. People need to learn to grow up.... on both sides.....

 

 

[Odynn 2,248]

(and use bridges instead of landbriges... those are the past)

[zethreal 582]

13 hours ago, Chiqa said:

Really? And we needed to know all this why? Seems like it is between the parties involved and GM Prawn. 

 

I don't know, but it definitely helped me procrastinate for 15 minutes or so while I read it.

 

[Cista 426]

6 hours ago, Lotus1 said:

This seems more like typical wurm drama with both parties throwing sand in each other's eyes. People need to learn to grow up.... on both sides.....

 

 

Sand? That's a highway right there !

 

also

[18:43:33] <Russwoods> you have no right on this road
[18:46:40] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Old black bear!

 

- gotta love North Xanadu mob density lol

 

[Rydell 10]

 

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13 hours ago, Russwoods said:

yes I am building a road between my 2 deeds amberlynn and revenge island cause revenge island does not have a road or access to it, and let gets this clear, rocky cried to GM enik saying I destroyed a road, but the gm saided I could put cobblestone in the middle and sand on the side, .I did not change the road but the texture of it, and GM enik approved it, just like GM Prawn approved my choose of a bridge or a landbridge, I was willing to meet rocky half way on this issue but since he like to omit stuff here is the deal we were going to make a build between the 2 deeds but since he likes talking trash that idea went out the window as of now, be well and good gaming

 

 

To clarify what everyone here except you can realize, you have always had access, its surrounded by water, and you own boats -- this is called an excuse, not a reason. You have never been willing to work with Rocky (on this particular bridge issue, I can't speak for past issues, as I was not there). The only reason we got the GM's involved was because without even communicating with us (ordering us to stop work on our market does not count), you started threatening to intentionally close off the harbor for months( see logs) intentionally chose to not make a normal bridge, and in turn make it of dirt (see logs). If that's called "meeting halfway" you need to change your units of measurement.

 

Claiming that you're the innocent party here when Rockybalboa, Paulofdune, Myself, Silvea, Eirameyz, Amerian, and at least 2 others(who wish to remain anonymous) who all support and work here in the market are all literally saying the exact same thing, is just plain ignorance.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Cecci said:

Disgusting.

Blocking off the biggest market on Xanadu should be punished, not rewarded.

 

Exactly. He has the mental capacity/maturity of a 10 year old, and when he doesn't get what he wants, he throws a temper tantrum.

 

The worst part is, he's not even taking it out on any of us locals, he's taking it out on every single boat traveler, every potential customer, every merchant owner and intentionally trying to cause harm to the area. Its children like this that can sour almost any environment.

 

Its like blowing up a school just because the teacher hurt your feelings with words

 

 

The Name and Shame thread has been closed to due excessive sand throwing and complaining, but seeing as reputation is everything, and he pretty much hermits here in the market, this is the only way we can show the true colors of someone who flip flops what he says more than a politician sweating bullets on Super Tuesday.

 

Regardless, we just wish to inform everyone of the Grinch of Glasshollow since a lot of people come in and out of this market, we just think it should be fair to tell you to steer far and wide of him and his alts (Lynwoods/chasswoods) when you come here. He has also been known to "kick to the curb" people who have worked for him in the past, so take what is being agreed upon with a grain of salt and demand up-front payment. He admits that he plays alone -- and refuses to work together -- which is completely against playing on Xanadu, right next to a spawnpoint for beginners and a sprawling market. Placing your deeds and refusing to work with anyone around you is childish, especially if you show no interest in any other human player whatsoever.

 

 

Since the market is fairly large and sees daily use, this is pretty much a public service announcement. All of us here at Glasshollow Market & Harbor strive and work very hard to keep this place full of stock, maintain a friendly helpful environment, and do all that we can to keep the area as wonderful, convenient and easy to access and joyous as it was when it first sprang up near the creation of Xanadu long ago. It's just sad when 1 immature person tries really really hard to bring everyone down because he doesn't get what he wants.

 

 

 

Enjoy your stay, fill your coffers, and let the commerce continue =].

 

[Saicotic 116]

seems silly, I mean I live around the area and did not see any of the drama but using "no access" to an island as an excuse to throw down a land bridge rather than a real bridge is either spite or laziness. Especially if the person in question has boats.

 

Why would you want a land bridge / road to an island? what would be the point of it? Are you travelling back and forth 20+ times a day hauling wagon after wagon of stuff?  Seems to be a lot of work building a land bridge would be better served with a nice real bridge, more pleasing to the eye and a lot less trouble than dirt dropping and dredging imo... unless of course you are just doing it to be a pain in the rear...then it makes a lot more sense, at least to me. 

[RockyBalboa 565]

Minutes ago:

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[14:48:25] <Prawn> I didn't exctly OK, the cancellation of the agreement, it is simply that I cannot do enforce it any further. He has made his decision on how he wishes to continue and that is his decision.
[14:49:08] <Russwoods> please explain
[14:49:37] <Rydell> So there is not going to be a bridge there? Its going to be solid dirt? I just want to make sure.
[14:49:40] <Prawn> I am answering the query posed by Rocky and crew.
[14:49:50] <Prawn> Correct Rydell.
[14:49:58] <Russwoods> i wish to have no dealing with Mr Rockybalboa for i have him on my ignore list
[14:50:10] <Rydell> Ok, that's all. I just wanted to make sure everything was clarified.
[14:50:15] <Prawn> Aye.
[14:51:21] <Russwoods> see how this goes, rydell has nothing to do with this issue, so why did he put in a support request, i have this issue all of the time here and i am sick of it
[14:51:37] <Rydell> I am part of the "crew". There are 5 humans who live/work here
[14:53:31] <Rydell> He may have me ignored as well, he said he was putting me back on the ignore list earlier.
[14:53:49] <Rockybalboa> Can't reason with him anyway.
[14:54:46] <Rockybalboa> I would only wish to foster good relationships, especially here in Glasshollow that I love. Old grudges came with this account.
[14:56:23] <Rockybalboa> We will make our canal much more visible and use this to our advantage

 

[Rydell 10]

8 minutes ago, Saicotic said:

seems silly, I mean I live around the area and did not see any of the drama but using "no access" to an island as an excuse to throw down a land bridge rather than a real bridge is either spite or laziness. Especially if the person in question has boats.

 

Why would you want a land bridge / road to an island? what would be the point of it? Are you travelling back and forth 20+ times a day hauling wagon after wagon of stuff?  Seems to be a lot of work building a land bridge would be better served with a nice real bridge, more pleasing to the eye and a lot less trouble than dirt dropping and dredging imo... unless of course you are just doing it to be a pain in the rear...then it makes a lot more sense, at least to me. 

 

Exactly. -- Fun fact, he destroyed all his buildings on that island, He even admitted he no longer wants to use it (We have this in chat logs) -- Its just an excuse to do something 100% destructive to the "flow" of an area as justification for "revenge". Either way, this is coming from some kid who takes long breaks for months and months at a time and doesn't even really "play", this is all he's been doing since his return months ago. He lost some land (reference to rule "deed it or lose it"), came back, threw a hissy fit, and now is just turned into a vengeful troll. Either way, no skin off our bones -- Its just the waterways we are trying to protect. Glad to see someone local who has common sense and judgement, you are a welcome face here in the market anytime =]

 

 

[Saicotic 116]

Man that sucks, well I hope it all works out, I love Glasshollow and the market there. Pity that the GMs can't really GM since they have no access to the chat logs, and it boils down to he said / she said stuff.

[Rydell 10]

6 minutes ago, Saicotic said:

Man that sucks, well I hope it all works out, I love Glasshollow and the market there. Pity that the GMs can't really GM since they have no access to the chat logs, and it boils down to he said / she said stuff.

 

Yea, but at least all of this will work in our favor anyways, this just helps us draw attention to our new market additions. Glad to see a lot of the visitors here in the market are aware of the Grinch. His reputation has gone down quite a few chunks from all of us in the wide glasshollow area, and a good dozen or so people who've been here in the past few days. So far so good =P.

 

I always make sure to take pictures with my phone of my entire computer screen with an expanded chat window, just so their go-to claim of "Oh, chat logs can be easily manipulated" can't always be referenced. When i have a semi-opaque chat window with all kinds of landscape details in the background see-through, you would clearly see signs of editing and it would take much more skill than hitting Backspace and changing a simple .txt file. ;]

[Pandalet 1,848]

While the outcome in this situation may not be optimum, everything that needs to be said here, has been said.

 

Pandalet (Forum Moderator)