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Animal taming , bugs , issues, intended.

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Taming same animal is possible for hours , max loyalty you can see or get to is extremely loyal.

 

However when you pray it happens you get the message:

[14:28:43] Venerable fat crocodile suddenly seems more loyal.

 

After a few of those messages the animal reached a max loyalty you cant see or tame it anymore.

Examine and actions looks like this:

[10:48:39] This meat-eating reptile swims very well but may also perform quick rushes on land in order to catch you.
[10:48:39] It is being taken care of by Moogien.
[10:48:39] She is very strong and has a good reserve of fat.
[10:48:39] This meat-eating reptile swims very well but may also perform quick rushes on land in order to catch you.
[10:49:16] You selected 1.
[10:49:33] You start to tame the Venerable fat crocodile.
[10:49:36] A venerable fat crocodile eats a cooked meat.
[10:49:36] Venerable fat crocodile is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.
[10:49:36] Your taming does not seem to have any effect.

 

Notice that there is no message of tame level, even though it is beyond extremely loyal.

Intended or bug ?

 

Next issue or bug:

I have a venerable champion crocodile and a venerable champion unicorn.

I can barely tame the champion crocodile. RNG very random here.

 

The champion unicorn i dont have a chance , it wont just be tamed , i have to flee after 20 ish attempts, cause of my wounds.

I can sort of easily charm the champion unicorn to be tame , it is how i caught it. After it beeing charmed i can do normal tames on it, with it attacking randomly as usual.

 

Wiki states Animal taming 90  for champion unicorn because of it is player made , cant say for sure if this should be correct or not.

as it is for me not possible.

 

 

My animal taming is 96,61 , was actually waiting to hit 97 before this post, but well now  i did it anyway.

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i wonder what your soul stats are (both depth and strength)

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2 minutes ago, KaiH said:

i wonder what your soul stats are (both depth and strength)

 

soul 52,95

soul strength 37,27

soul depth 55,86

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Yep, not really a bug, that's just how big the numbers get in case of champ unis. Only way to tame it is to be HOTS, who use somewhat different mechanics (easier for very hard mobs, harder for easy mobs). A venerable champ uni you're not really going to tame even at 100 taming & 100 soul str (soul depth doesn't matter). Wiki is obviously wrong, yes.

 

As for the message, indeed, seems you've hit 100.0+ loyalty on it, grats. That's why the examine message got doubled. That part is a bug, yes.

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23 minutes ago, asdf said:

Yep, not really a bug, that's just how big the numbers get in case of champ unis. Only way to tame it is to be HOTS, who use somewhat different mechanics (easier for very hard mobs, harder for easy mobs). A venerable champ uni you're not really going to tame even at 100 taming & 100 soul str (soul depth doesn't matter). Wiki is obviously wrong, yes.

 

As for the message, indeed, seems you've hit 100.0+ loyalty on it, grats. That's why the examine message got doubled. That part is a bug, yes.

 

Explains the taming issues , but not why it is that easy with charm , if this difficult is intended should be tougher with charm.

I dont remember my skills when i charmed it a few years ago.

 

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charm doesn't even seem to care what is the creature you're charming :D

oh, no, i guess it does (a little bit), but obviously it uses spell mechanics rather than taming mechanics

 

btw when i say that you're not going to tame it, well technically you can but the chance is on the order of like 0.1% or something, so you know :D

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48 minutes ago, asdf said:

charm doesn't even seem to care what is the creature you're charming :D

oh, no, i guess it does (a little bit), but obviously it uses spell mechanics rather than taming mechanics

 

btw when i say that you're not going to tame it, well technically you can but the chance is on the order of like 0.1% or something, so you know :D

yes, i understand , im still in the thoughts this may be a difficulty not intended or not looked at by devs.

Even though you explained it good.

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would always have to charm my champ crocs with a fo and a tank x)

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Same thing happened to me except only occurring once I reached 90 taming on epic.


[22:30:57] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:30:58] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:04] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:05] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:06] You have just received the title 'Beastmaster'!
[22:31:07] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.
[22:31:09] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.
[22:31:11] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.

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5 hours ago, Bix said:

Same thing happened to me except only occurring once I reached 90 taming on epic.


[22:30:57] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:30:58] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:04] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:05] You create a stronger bond with Aged fat Cloudnapa.
[22:31:06] You have just received the title 'Beastmaster'!
[22:31:07] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.
[22:31:09] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.
[22:31:11] Aged fat Cloudnapa is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.

 

You get the "don't learn anything new" message if the animal's loyalty is already above 99.0. I have no idea how the Epic curve applies to this, if it does.

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My first results on experimenting with low prayer.

loyalty_prayer.jpg

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[19:21:42] Old champion wild cat suddenly seems more loyal.

[19:21:42] Religion increased by 0.0157 to 4.8747

[19:21:42] Prayer increased by 0.0326 to 10.9903 

So it's not limited to just high prayer/religion and priests. That's good to know.

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Updating with new info ,

 

I reached animal taming 99

 

and now it seems possible tame to max level on a animal.

[11:10:08] You start to tame the venerable fat Fastfast 'very fast'

[11:10:21] You create a stronger bond with venerable fat Fastfast 'very fast'.

[11:10:21] Animal taming increased  to 99

 [11:10:30] You start to tame the venerable fat Fastfast 'very fast'.

 [11:10:35] Venerable fat Fastfast 'very fast' is already tame, so you don't learn anything new.

 [11:10:40] Your taming does not seem to have any effect.

 

Note no prayers involved

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90 on Epic is effective 99 which is why you are now seeing what Bix posted above

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