Posted January 24, 2016 Right now, the meditation ability Erupt/Freeze only works on tiles in your kingdom, and not in a non-Magranon domain. Why?? The kingdom restriction should be sufficient for PvP purposes, and on PvE, restricting a meditation ability based on religion is pointless and frustrating. Right now, I have a Fo character I'll be priesting who is on Path of Power, so using Erupt/Freeze on anything is a total pain since she can't actually use it in Fo's domain. Is there a reason for the religious restriction on this? I certainly don't see one, or a downside to removing it. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 Probably something to do with mag preists being able to walk on lava without taking damage. Nevertheless it still needs to be changed, the kingdom prevention is understandable, but the domain one doesnt make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 +1, keep usual deed and kingdom restrictions, don't need religion added in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 +1 Not sure why meditation is mixing with religion in the first place... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 Thing is, I know this isn't the first thread about it, either... but still no reason given for it not being changed, even though it seems pretty unanimously agreed upon by players and there's no discernible game design reason not to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 +1, magranon priests are harder and harder to find since the nahjo upraise. No point in tying meditation paths to religion as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 +1 even with my path of power mag it is av pain to use. I can't see it going too powerful without the domain restriction. Erupted lava tiles are temporary anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 +1, No point in tying meditation paths to religion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) +1 anything to boost the less common meditation paths is awsome! we need more diversity, there is probably less than a dozen path of power toons in wurm, and fading fast Edited January 24, 2016 by Evilreaper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 24, 2016 My Mag priest is one, both is a rarity now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) +1 my PoP alt converted to Nahjo without consulting Cleric, so now her path is tired to another religion, And cannot talk to my Mag priest as she is already too insane to care. Alts just will not listen to common sense some times... Edited January 26, 2016 by ClericGunem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 Aye the god domain restriction on a meditation path ability does seem odd. On the otherhand lava can be a fairly destructive terrain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 11 hours ago, Klaa said: Aye the god domain restriction on a meditation path ability does seem odd. On the otherhand lava can be a fairly destructive terrain. It can! But religious restrictions do not meaningfully reduce the potential for abuse. On PvP servers, it's restricted by kingdom already. On PvE servers, deed permissions control its usage. You can still use it where there's a Magranon domain, or no domain (bug?), which means if it would be abusable, it already is. You could just build and improve a Magranon altar to take over the local domain anyway, and then use it. This actually winds up being more of an abuse than simply using the ability to make lava where someone doesn't want it, because now you've also goofed up their local domains by changing them to Magranon. In other words, I can hardly think of a way this change would meaningfully increase the potential for abuse, and can see at least one case (messing up someone's local domain so you can channel the ability) where it would decrease abuse. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 Mmm close; however god domains do not always update immediately after an altar is created. Anyways, far as pvp goes, the kingdom restriction seems fine by itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 path of hate bound to myc which is bound to chaos.... #BRINGHATETOFREEDOM #BRINGMYCTOFREEDOM #BRINGLIBILATOFREEDOM 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 That's a bit off topic, and mycelium/Libila are not allowed on PvE for other reasons. Path of Hate being available doesn't seem so problematic, if there were a non-mycelium way to get it, but that's neither here nor there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 26, 2016 Maybe let PoH be obtainable via peat tiles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 27, 2016 8 hours ago, Ostentatio said: That's a bit off topic, and mycelium/Libila are not allowed on PvE for other reasons. Path of Hate being available doesn't seem so problematic, if there were a non-mycelium way to get it, but that's neither here nor there. this is exactly on topic... path of hate is bound to libila's ability to create mycelium which can only survive in her domain.... without libila's domain = no myc = no path of hate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 31, 2016 A question about the erupt/freeze : Does it work on ore veins inside a tunnel ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 31, 2016 Yeah, it works on ore as well as reinforcements. Has to be done from on top, though, not inside the mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 Bumping because this is even worse now with the new domain system, since we can no longer build a stone Magranon altar inside a mine and push it out for a temporary domain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 can anyone answer if the Erupt ability works in Nahjo domains? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 Secondly, I would point out that, if Mag is getting an "elemental ability" why are there no similar ones via other religions? Fo would obviously be the refresh or the enchant grass/trees but there is NO restrictions. Vynora would be knowledge gains via path of knowledge, but again.... no restrictions. Lybilas has path of hate and that is bound to her, period. and they have a technical restriction that is a round about. So why do some have restrictions and not others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Tallios said: Secondly, I would point out that, if Mag is getting an "elemental ability" why are there no similar ones via other religions? Fo would obviously be the refresh or the enchant grass/trees but there is NO restrictions. Vynora would be knowledge gains via path of knowledge, but again.... no restrictions. Lybilas has path of hate and that is bound to her, period. and they have a technical restriction that is a round about. So why do some have restrictions and not others? Erupt is tied to Mag due to lore supposedly, someone had a good lore-based reasons and it it made sense why it was a Mag domain. I do not remember it, but the hints like in Mag converting speech 'together we will strive to rule the world. We will conquer all evil, build fantastic houses and live rich and glorious lives in them" which sounds like PoP propaganda. Also Mag priests can walk on lava.... The restriction should be removed or granted to god's domains that can walk of lava maybe, but if they allow us to build altars in other god's domains then that should be enough. Personally i am now leaning toward keeping it as the only two things that Magranon has are erupt (Mag domain) and disintegrate (in PvE). Take those away and there will be only a few Mag priests left on Freedom, not that there are many now anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ClericGunem said: Erupt is tied to Mag due to lore supposedly, someone had a good lore-based reasons and it it made sense why it was a Mag domain. I do not remember it, but the hints like in Mag converting speech 'together we will strive to rule the world. We will conquer all evil, build fantastic houses and live rich and glorious lives in them" which sounds like PoP propaganda. Also Mag priests can walk on lava.... The restriction should be removed or granted to god's domains that can walk of lava maybe, but if they allow us to build altars in other god's domains then that should be enough. Personally i am now leaning toward keeping it as the only two things that Magranon has are erupt (Mag domain) and disintegrate (in PvE). Take those away and there will be only a few Mag priests left on Freedom, not that there are many now anyway Hey I'm all for Mag having something Good and Unique, and Nahjo seems to cheat him a lot. Also.... where the hell is the lore? Edited June 25, 2016 by Tallios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites