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90 Ropemaking (Warning: Maths inside)

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I've been a Vynora battery for about a year and a half.  About 2 weeks before Nahjo ascended, I decided that I was going to persue ropemaking to assist our village priest.  To do so (quickly) required de-priesting, because a priest cannot improve items without losing faith.

 

Having found out the hard way that priests get half the skill gain (not just characteristics folks!) that non-priests do, my experience doubled per tic the second I was "no longer accepted by Vynora" as a priest (fell below 30 faith).  It was like I had just turned on sleep bonus, except it had been on for the past several hours, dwindling at .05 faith at a time.  20 actions per 1 faith, 100 faith... it took me a couple days.

 

Anyway, I made a *ton* of strings of cloth, created 100 net traps and began improving them.  I gained 40 ropemaking skill (having started at 20 and ending at 60) in ONE DAY.  I was amazed.  From 60-90 took me about 3 weeks of relentless grinding, sleep powders and sacrificing rares. 

 

My barrel of c102 water was a huge help, along with my CoC scissors and needle.  I didn't enchant the string of cloth, because combined cloth uses 5x the amount of string than improving with single pieces of string.  The string has to be higher QL than the item you are trying to improve, so it's better not to waste so much high QL string by combining it, even for X% more skillgain.

 

After 70 skill, i was getting 1.0 to 1.5 skill per hour, depending on the tool.  I would always turn off sleep bonus when I was using string to imp all the traps.  Once the entire stack required water/scissors/needle to improve, I would check my nutrition and turn sleep bonus on again.   As I went from 85 to 90, I was only getting 0.3 to 0.5 skill per hour.

 

The day came, I hit 90 RM, I priested again (Vynora) and proceeded to start making rope while praying.  I didn't notice much of a difference in my rope output than that of my Vynora priest in the village, who has 80 ropemaking.  We were both getting 35-38 average QL.

 

Today, I received my CoD return from my friendly neighborhood Fine Carpenter (thanks Chiqa :) ).  With my rare ropetool now 90 QL, I filled my wagon with rafts full of wemp fibre, combined it into clumps of 64 and went to town making rope.  I would keep the cordage ropes in my inventory until I had filled my inventory (80 ropes) and then placed them in a raft to be QL sorted later.  I wrote down the damage on the ropetool after each "handful", and the average QL (stack QL) of the ropes.  My findings were that there was a direct relation to damage and descending cordage rope QL.  If my rope tool had 10 damage, the average quality of the cordage rope was reduced by 10%, but of course the QL would vary by +/-2

 

Here's the totals on how many of what QL cordage rope I made.  I used 96.2 QL wemp, a 90 QL rope tool (Starting at zero damage and ending at 16.2 damage), and I started with 90.03 rope making, ending with 90.20

 

<30 QL-  677 Ropes (35%)

 30 QL-  344 Ropes (18%)

40 QL-   287 Ropes (15%)

50 QL-  245 Ropes (12%)

60 QL-  196 Ropes (10%)

70 QL-  115 Ropes (6%)

80 QL-  44 Ropes (2%)

90 QL-  29 Ropes (1.5)

 

Total Ropes made:  1937 (I used 2600 wemp fibre). 

I started with a 92% chance to make cordage rope, ended with 84% (due to damage on the tool).

 

Favor- QL
.5 - 15
2.5- 35
4.0- 45
6.0- 55
8.5- 65
11.- 75
14.- 85
16.5-93

Total Favor Created  - QL
338.5 - 15
860   - 35
1148  - 45
1470  - 55
1666  - 65
1265  - 75
616   - 85
478.5 - 95

Total Favor produced over 8 hours: 7,842

 

 

 

 

 

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Great information Wargasm. Thanks for sharing.


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So almost 1k favor an hour.

Gives you a Coc/woa cast every 3 mins roughly, not accounting for natural regen.

Pretty nice as long as you've got the wemp stockpiled.

I wasn't aware rm was so fast to train. Are your figures listed using sleep bonus the whole way? (Other than with the pieces of string)

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Having found out the hard way that priests get half the skill gain (not just characteristics folks!)

I was not at all aware of this. Is that documented somewhere and I missed it?

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I had 99% nutrition and sleep bonus on 100% of the time that I was not imping with string.  With string, sometimes I had 99% nutrition, sometimes I didn't, but I always had SB turned off.


 


One more tidbit I forgot to mention.  If you take on the RM grind yourself, try to keep whatever you're imping within 30 QL of your skill.


 


And no, it's apparently been a well kept secret.


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I will say that from my ropemaking experience that the most important factor is the QL of the ropetool

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And no, it's apparently been a well kept secret.

Do you have any skill gain logs? And you're sure you weren't using coc tools or botd tools accidentally? No SB bonus active? A "by the way, priests get overall half skill gain" would be a HUGE deal.

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And no, it's apparently been a well kept secret.

 

Some evidence would be nice please I have never seen anything to suggest that this is the case.

 

Here is a quick test of mine:

 

Non priest 10% nutrition

[05:02:25] Tracking increased by 0.457 to 1.457

[05:02:43] Tracking increased by 0.309 to 1.766

[05:03:16] Tracking increased by 0.254 to 2.021

[05:07:02] Tracking increased by 0.222 to 2.242

[05:07:13] Tracking increased by 0.201 to 2.444

 

Nacho priest 0% nutrition

[05:02:37] Tracking increased by 0.452 to 1.452

[05:04:01] Tracking increased by 0.311 to 1.763

[05:04:13] Tracking increased by 0.256 to 2.019

[05:06:54] Tracking increased by 0.218 to 2.237

[05:07:50] Tracking increased by 0.197 to 2.434

 

I'd say that is exactly the same when you take nutrition into account

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Chakron, you for sure get penalized on skill gain as a priest.  Well documented.  That is why it is always best to skill up before priesting.


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Chakron, you for sure get penalized on skill gain as a priest.  Well documented.  That is why it is always best to skill up before priesting.

 

Do you have any links to said documentation? You definitely get hurt in some aspects (for example, you're only allowed Creation actions rather than Improve for some skills), but I've never heard of half skillgain. Take a look at what Webba posted for example. If you've truly found half skill gain to be true, you should post it in Town Square. People would love to know about that.

 

Edit: Also curious if you've maybe gotten confused with something else. The regularly cited knowledge is that it's best to skill up Body Control before priesting in order to ride a horse, as a lot of the main skills that build up Body Control aren't available to most priests.*

 

*Spoiler Alert: Use Archery to get to 20.50

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I was doing fishing last 5 days as a priest and went from 13 to 58 in this time. I don't think it would be possible if i had halved skillgain :P 


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nice,


 


while priested I went from 66 to 85 RM just spamming cordage over a  long period and the quality of the rope tool does indeed make a massive difference to the average QL of the produced cordage.


 


I actually have two rope tools, one 90+ql one for when I absolutely needed max favour, and a lower ql one, around 70ql which meant I got more skill ticks with produced cordage being under 40ql.


 


I never actually felt any need to skill up RM for cordage. Once I got my decent rope tool the favour generation was always good enough and just got better.


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Aye after a certain point the ql of the ropetool plays a huge role.

Not that it isn't a bad idea to get one's RM up a little before going priest anyways.

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These are the logs I have of that day, ending at 4:30pm.  About an hour after 4:30pm, I resumed playing from my home computer, which I will have to re-post in order to continue the logs. 

 

However, I believe this is what you guys will want to see.

 

Logging started 2015-05-13

Imping with string (notice the skill gain is less because I'm not using CoC tools)
[19:08:01] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 36.101
[19:08:12] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 36.001
[19:08:28] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.901
[19:08:48] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.801
[19:10:18] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.701
[19:10:44] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.601
[19:11:13] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.501
[19:11:24] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.401
[19:11:40] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.301
[19:11:59] Ropemaking increased by 0.0172 to 31.534
[19:11:59] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.201
[19:13:11] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.101
[19:13:22] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 35.001
[19:13:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0136 to 31.547
[19:13:38] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.901
[19:13:57] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.801
[19:14:30] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.701
[19:14:42] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.601
[19:14:58] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.501
[19:15:17] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.401
[19:16:06] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.301
[19:16:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0151 to 31.562
[19:16:17] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.201
[19:16:34] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.101
[19:16:52] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 34.001
[19:17:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0188 to 31.581
[19:17:47] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.901
[19:17:58] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.801
[19:18:15] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.701
[19:18:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0173 to 31.598
[19:18:33] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.601
[19:21:05] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.501
[19:21:16] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.401
[19:21:32] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.301
[19:21:51] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.201
[19:22:31] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.101
[19:22:42] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 33.001
[19:22:59] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.901
[19:23:33] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.801
[19:23:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0139 to 31.612
[19:23:45] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.701
[19:23:47] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.601
[19:24:15] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.501
[19:25:12] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.401

Here I resume using CoC tools (non-string) and that's why the skill gain drastically increases.  Notice the .03's, .04's 
[19:25:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0197 to 31.632
[19:25:42] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.301
[19:25:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0226 to 31.655
[19:25:53] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.201
[19:26:09] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.101
[19:26:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0382 to 31.693
[19:26:28] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 32.001
[19:26:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0433 to 31.736
[19:27:28] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.901
[19:27:40] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.801
[19:27:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0320 to 31.768
[19:27:56] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.701
[19:28:16] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.601
[19:28:45] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.501
[19:28:56] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.401
[19:29:13] Ropemaking increased by 0.0333 to 31.801
[19:29:19] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.301
[19:29:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0114 to 31.813
[19:29:31] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.201
[19:29:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0161 to 31.829
[19:29:48] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.101
[19:30:07] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 31.001
[19:30:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0214 to 31.850
[19:31:25] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.901
[19:31:37] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.801
[19:31:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0157 to 31.866
[19:31:53] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.701
[19:35:44] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.601
[19:35:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0208 to 31.887
[19:35:55] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.501
[19:36:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0299 to 31.917
[19:36:11] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.401
[19:36:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0343 to 31.951
[19:36:30] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.301
[19:37:14] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.201
[19:37:26] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.101
[19:37:42] Faith decreased by 0.100 to 30.001
[19:38:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0349 to 31.986
[19:38:01] Faith decreased by 10.0 to 20.000     
<----- Here's where I de-priested.  Notice the .06's, the .07's exploding.
[19:38:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0724 to 32.058  
[19:38:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0377 to 32.096
[19:39:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0635 to 32.160
[19:41:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0719 to 32.231
[19:43:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0771 to 32.309
[19:43:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0528 to 32.361
[19:44:06] Mind logic increased by 0.0106 to 34.169
[19:45:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0394 to 32.401
[19:45:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0537 to 32.454
[19:46:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0624 to 32.517
[19:47:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0377 to 32.555
[19:47:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0519 to 32.607
[19:47:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0641 to 32.671
[19:48:45] Mind increased by 0.0103 to 28.263
[19:48:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0381 to 32.709
[19:49:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0621 to 32.771
[20:00:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0558 to 32.827
[20:01:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0401 to 32.867
[20:01:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0564 to 32.923
[20:02:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0388 to 32.962
[20:03:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0612 to 33.023
[20:04:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0519 to 33.075
[20:05:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0689 to 33.144
[20:05:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0366 to 33.181
[20:05:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0519 to 33.233
[20:06:14] Mind logic increased by 0.0105 to 34.179
[20:08:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0605 to 33.293
[20:10:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0516 to 33.345
[20:10:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0616 to 33.406
[20:12:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0606 to 33.467
[20:13:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0537 to 33.520
[20:13:56] Mind increased by 0.0105 to 28.274
[20:14:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0353 to 33.556
[20:14:17] Repairing increased by 0.0103 to 30.182
[20:14:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0496 to 33.605
[20:14:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0376 to 33.643
[20:15:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0579 to 33.701
[20:15:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0674 to 33.768
[20:17:05] Ropemaking increased by 0.0672 to 33.835
[20:17:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0373 to 33.873
[20:17:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0517 to 33.924
[20:18:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0354 to 33.960
[20:19:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0518 to 34.012
[20:19:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0586 to 34.070
[20:20:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0503 to 34.120
[20:20:48] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.190
[20:21:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0689 to 34.189
[20:21:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0350 to 34.224
[20:21:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0523 to 34.277
[20:22:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0673 to 34.344
[20:22:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0357 to 34.380
[20:23:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0509 to 34.430
[20:23:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0624 to 34.493
[20:23:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0690 to 34.562
[20:25:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0344 to 34.596
[20:25:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0489 to 34.645
[20:26:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0344 to 34.680
[20:26:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0479 to 34.728
[20:27:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0572 to 34.785
[20:27:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0341 to 34.819
[20:28:49] Mind increased by 0.0103 to 28.284
[20:28:49] Ropemaking increased by 0.0368 to 34.856
[20:30:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0344 to 34.890
[20:30:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0499 to 34.940
[20:31:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0606 to 35.000
[20:33:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0669 to 35.067
[20:34:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0336 to 35.101
[20:34:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0479 to 35.149
[20:35:10] Mind logic increased by 0.0100 to 34.200
[20:35:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0662 to 35.215
[20:36:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0675 to 35.282
[20:37:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0326 to 35.315
[20:37:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0474 to 35.362
[20:37:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0556 to 35.418
[20:38:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0655 to 35.483
[20:39:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0557 to 35.539
[20:40:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0470 to 35.586
[20:40:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0551 to 35.641
[20:42:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0553 to 35.696
[20:42:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0653 to 35.762
[20:43:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0327 to 35.794
[20:44:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0662 to 35.861
[20:44:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0318 to 35.892
[20:44:54] Mind increased by 0.0102 to 28.294
[20:45:13] Ropemaking increased by 0.0580 to 35.950
[20:45:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0349 to 35.985
[20:46:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0460 to 36.031
[20:46:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0535 to 36.085
[20:47:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0337 to 36.119
[20:47:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0451 to 36.164
[20:47:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0323 to 36.196
[20:48:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0460 to 36.242
[20:48:31] Mind logic increased by 0.0101 to 34.210
[20:49:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0319 to 36.274
[20:49:49] Ropemaking increased by 0.0526 to 36.327
[20:51:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0539 to 36.380
[20:52:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0333 to 36.414
[20:52:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0453 to 36.459
[20:52:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0532 to 36.512
[20:53:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0463 to 36.558
[20:55:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0315 to 36.590
[20:56:25] Ropemaking increased by 0.0449 to 36.635
[20:57:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0438 to 36.679
[20:57:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0314 to 36.710
[20:58:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0314 to 36.741
[20:58:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0163 to 36.758
[20:59:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0116 to 36.769
[20:59:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0138 to 36.783
[21:00:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0199 to 36.803
[21:02:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0166 to 36.820
[21:04:03] Ropemaking increased by 0.0116 to 36.831
[21:06:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0244 to 36.855
[21:11:29] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 28.304
[21:11:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0120 to 36.867
[21:11:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0136 to 36.881
[21:12:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0207 to 36.902
[21:13:25] Ropemaking increased by 0.0117 to 36.913
[21:14:51] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.220
[21:15:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0211 to 36.934
[21:16:13] Ropemaking increased by 0.0145 to 36.949
[21:16:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0172 to 36.966
[21:17:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0115 to 36.978
[21:18:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 36.994
[21:19:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0120 to 37.006
[21:19:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0138 to 37.020
[21:21:05] Ropemaking increased by 0.0241 to 37.044
[21:21:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0197 to 37.063
[21:22:25] Ropemaking increased by 0.0162 to 37.080
[21:23:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0195 to 37.099
[21:23:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0135 to 37.113
[21:26:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0164 to 37.129
[21:27:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0134 to 37.142
[21:29:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 37.158
[21:29:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0114 to 37.170
[21:30:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0134 to 37.183
[21:31:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0134 to 37.197
[22:01:28] Repairing increased by 0.0100 to 30.192
[22:01:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0195 to 37.216
[22:02:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0134 to 37.229
[22:02:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0136 to 37.243
[22:03:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0158 to 37.259
[22:04:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0161 to 37.275
[22:04:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0113 to 37.286
[22:06:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0134 to 37.300
[22:07:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0193 to 37.319
[22:13:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0327 to 37.352
[22:13:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0470 to 37.399
[22:14:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0601 to 37.459
[22:15:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0500 to 37.509
[22:15:59] Ropemaking increased by 0.0303 to 37.539
[22:16:15] Mind increased by 0.0104 to 28.315
[22:17:48] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.230
[22:18:05] Ropemaking increased by 0.0430 to 37.582
[22:18:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0498 to 37.632
[22:21:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0591 to 37.691
[22:23:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0294 to 37.720
[22:23:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0505 to 37.771
[22:25:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0299 to 37.801
[22:27:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0490 to 37.850
[22:27:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0304 to 37.880
[22:28:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0415 to 37.922
[22:28:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0490 to 37.971
[22:28:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0596 to 38.030
[22:29:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0443 to 38.075
[22:30:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0495 to 38.124
[22:31:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0429 to 38.167
[22:31:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0491 to 38.216
[22:32:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0305 to 38.247
[22:33:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0494 to 38.296
[22:33:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0609 to 38.357
[22:33:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0292 to 38.386
[22:34:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0417 to 38.428
[22:35:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0503 to 38.478
[22:36:21] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 28.325
[22:36:21] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.240
[22:36:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0581 to 38.536
[22:37:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0413 to 38.577
[22:37:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0484 to 38.626
[22:37:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0570 to 38.683
[22:40:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0573 to 38.740
[22:42:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0288 to 38.769
[22:42:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0400 to 38.809
[22:43:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0297 to 38.839
[22:44:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0410 to 38.880
[22:44:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0481 to 38.928
[22:45:18] Ropemaking increased by 0.0407 to 38.968
[22:45:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0507 to 39.019
[22:46:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0554 to 39.075
[22:46:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0283 to 39.103
[22:47:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0277 to 39.131
[22:48:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0475 to 39.178
[22:48:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0573 to 39.235
[22:48:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0299 to 39.265
[22:49:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0488 to 39.314
[22:50:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0405 to 39.355
[22:50:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0498 to 39.404
[22:51:09] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.250
[22:51:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0563 to 39.461
[22:51:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0273 to 39.488
[22:51:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0396 to 39.528
[22:52:03] Ropemaking increased by 0.0476 to 39.575
[22:52:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0550 to 39.630
[22:52:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0394 to 39.670
[22:53:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0464 to 39.716
[22:53:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0561 to 39.772
[22:54:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0399 to 39.812
[22:55:02] Mind increased by 0.0105 to 28.335
[22:55:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0544 to 39.866
[22:55:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0275 to 39.894
[22:57:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0557 to 39.950
[22:57:19] Repairing increased by 0.0100 to 30.202
[22:57:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0281 to 39.978
[22:58:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0390 to 40.017
[22:58:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0458 to 40.062
[22:58:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0542 to 40.117
[22:59:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0284 to 40.145
[22:59:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0388 to 40.184
[23:01:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0265 to 40.210
[23:02:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0467 to 40.257
[23:02:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0534 to 40.311
[23:02:58] Mind logic increased by 0.0103 to 34.261
[23:03:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0453 to 40.356
[23:03:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0531 to 40.409
[23:05:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0520 to 40.461
[23:05:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0280 to 40.489
[23:06:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0447 to 40.534
[23:07:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0471 to 40.581
[23:08:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0527 to 40.633
[23:08:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0266 to 40.660
[23:09:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0527 to 40.713
[23:10:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0259 to 40.739
[23:11:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0467 to 40.785
[23:11:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0523 to 40.838
[23:12:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0379 to 40.875
[23:13:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0276 to 40.903
[23:14:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0529 to 40.956
[23:15:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0365 to 40.992
[23:16:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0261 to 41.019
[23:17:03] Ropemaking increased by 0.0372 to 41.056
[23:17:22] Mind increased by 0.0103 to 28.346
[23:17:22] Mind logic increased by 0.0105 to 34.271
[23:17:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0518 to 41.108
[23:18:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0389 to 41.147
[23:18:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0437 to 41.190
[23:19:18] Ropemaking increased by 0.0512 to 41.241
[23:19:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0384 to 41.280
[23:20:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0533 to 41.333
[23:21:25] Ropemaking increased by 0.0252 to 41.358
[23:22:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0508 to 41.409
[23:22:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0258 to 41.435
[23:23:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0377 to 41.473
[23:24:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0358 to 41.508
[23:24:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0450 to 41.553
[23:25:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0256 to 41.579
[23:26:07] Ropemaking increased by 0.0382 to 41.617
[23:26:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0364 to 41.653
[23:54:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0161 to 41.670
[23:56:27] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.281
[23:56:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0208 to 41.690
[23:56:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0131 to 41.704
[23:56:52] Repairing increased by 0.0109 to 30.213
[23:57:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0111 to 41.715
[23:58:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0162 to 41.731
[00:01:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0206 to 41.751
[00:01:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0131 to 41.764
[00:03:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 41.780
[00:05:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 41.796
[00:08:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0188 to 41.815
[00:09:18] Ropemaking increased by 0.0131 to 41.828
[00:10:25] Ropemaking increased by 0.0159 to 41.844
[00:10:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0109 to 41.855
[00:11:03] Ropemaking increased by 0.0109 to 41.866
[00:12:43] Mind increased by 0.0101 to 28.356
[00:12:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0167 to 41.883
[00:13:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0104 to 41.893
[00:13:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0122 to 41.905
[00:14:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0205 to 41.926
[00:15:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0130 to 41.939
[00:16:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0205 to 41.959
[00:16:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0159 to 41.975
[00:17:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0132 to 41.989
[00:18:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 42.005
[00:18:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0110 to 42.016
[00:19:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0130 to 42.029
[00:19:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0158 to 42.044
[00:20:39] Ropemaking increased by 0.0129 to 42.057
[00:22:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0224 to 42.080
[00:23:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0160 to 42.096
[00:25:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0376 to 42.133
[00:25:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0439 to 42.177
[00:26:01] Mind logic increased by 0.0104 to 34.292
[00:26:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0516 to 42.229
[00:27:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0353 to 42.264
[00:28:07] Ropemaking increased by 0.0446 to 42.309
[00:28:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0527 to 42.361
[00:31:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0352 to 42.397
[00:32:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0416 to 42.438
[00:32:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0494 to 42.488
[00:33:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0360 to 42.524
[00:33:59] Repairing increased by 0.0118 to 30.225
[00:34:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0257 to 42.549
[00:35:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0508 to 42.600
[00:35:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0344 to 42.634
[00:36:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0419 to 42.676
[00:36:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0478 to 42.724
[00:37:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0255 to 42.750
[00:37:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0347 to 42.784
[00:38:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0259 to 42.810
[00:38:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0357 to 42.846
[00:38:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0412 to 42.887
[00:39:37] Ropemaking increased by 0.0242 to 42.911
[00:40:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0482 to 42.960
[00:40:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0241 to 42.984
[00:41:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0478 to 43.031
[00:42:33] Mind logic increased by 0.0101 to 34.302
[00:42:49] Mind increased by 0.0104 to 28.366
[00:43:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0242 to 43.056
[01:10:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0240 to 43.080
[01:10:50] Ropemaking increased by 0.0342 to 43.114
[01:12:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0414 to 43.155
[01:12:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0248 to 43.180
[01:13:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0401 to 43.220
[01:13:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0240 to 43.244
[01:14:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0350 to 43.279
[01:14:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0403 to 43.319
[01:14:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0483 to 43.368
[01:15:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0237 to 43.391
[01:15:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0399 to 43.431
[01:16:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0472 to 43.478
[01:16:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0248 to 43.503
[01:17:39] Ropemaking increased by 0.0479 to 43.551
[01:18:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0235 to 43.575
[01:18:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0348 to 43.609
[01:19:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0467 to 43.656
[01:20:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0230 to 43.679
[01:22:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0390 to 43.718
[01:23:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0454 to 43.763
[01:23:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0352 to 43.799
[01:24:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0411 to 43.840
[01:24:49] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.312
[01:25:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0462 to 43.886
[01:26:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0228 to 43.909
[01:27:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0227 to 43.931
[01:28:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0232 to 43.955
[01:28:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0337 to 43.988
[01:28:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0392 to 44.028
[01:29:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0488 to 44.076
[01:29:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0254 to 44.102
[01:30:24] Mind increased by 0.0102 to 28.377
[01:31:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0326 to 44.134
[01:31:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0381 to 44.173
[01:31:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0446 to 44.217
[01:32:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0230 to 44.240
[01:32:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0375 to 44.278
[01:33:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0442 to 44.322
[01:35:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0327 to 44.354
[01:35:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0383 to 44.393
[01:35:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0444 to 44.437
[01:37:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0225 to 44.460
[01:39:09] Mind logic increased by 0.0102 to 34.322
[01:39:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0325 to 44.492
[01:40:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0455 to 44.538
[01:40:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0143 to 44.552
[01:41:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0216 to 44.574
[02:01:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0140 to 44.588
[02:04:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0165 to 44.604
[02:04:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0212 to 44.625
[02:06:13] Ropemaking increased by 0.0186 to 44.644
[02:07:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0115 to 44.656
[02:10:31] Ropemaking increased by 0.0141 to 44.670
[02:11:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0114 to 44.681
[02:12:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0155 to 44.696
[02:13:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0139 to 44.710
[02:14:45] Ropemaking increased by 0.0153 to 44.726
[02:19:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0156 to 44.741
[02:20:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0163 to 44.758
[02:21:09] Ropemaking increased by 0.0113 to 44.769
[02:22:53] Ropemaking increased by 0.0139 to 44.783
[02:24:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0274 to 44.810
[02:24:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0394 to 44.850
[02:25:49] Ropemaking increased by 0.0222 to 44.872
[02:26:05] Mind logic increased by 0.0103 to 34.332
[02:26:05] Ropemaking increased by 0.0312 to 44.903
[02:26:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0366 to 44.940
[02:27:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0220 to 44.962
[02:29:28] Mind increased by 0.0104 to 28.387
[02:29:28] Ropemaking increased by 0.0432 to 45.005
[02:31:04] Faith increased by 0.400 to 20.400
[02:33:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0243 to 45.029
[02:34:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0343 to 45.063
[02:34:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0467 to 45.110
[02:35:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0247 to 45.135
[02:35:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0336 to 45.168
[02:35:49] Ropemaking increased by 0.0393 to 45.208
[02:38:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0344 to 45.242
[02:38:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0424 to 45.285
[02:38:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0465 to 45.331
[02:39:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0235 to 45.354
[02:40:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0331 to 45.388
[02:41:05] Ropemaking increased by 0.0254 to 45.413
[02:41:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0341 to 45.447
[02:44:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0394 to 45.486
[02:45:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0466 to 45.533
[02:45:46] Mind logic increased by 0.0103 to 34.343
[02:45:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0236 to 45.557
[02:46:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0392 to 45.596
[02:46:43] Ropemaking increased by 0.0447 to 45.640
[02:47:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0260 to 45.666
[02:47:39] Ropemaking increased by 0.0412 to 45.708
[02:48:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0448 to 45.752
[02:49:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0236 to 45.776
[02:50:00] Ropemaking increased by 0.0348 to 45.811
[02:50:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0451 to 45.856
[02:51:36] Ropemaking increased by 0.0235 to 45.879
[02:52:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0396 to 45.919
[02:52:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0478 to 45.967
[02:53:35] Ropemaking increased by 0.0238 to 45.991
[02:53:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0324 to 46.023
[02:55:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0228 to 46.046
[02:56:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0385 to 46.084
[02:56:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0443 to 46.129
[02:57:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0320 to 46.161
[02:57:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0385 to 46.199
[02:58:23] Repairing increased by 0.0101 to 30.235
[02:58:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0232 to 46.222
[02:59:13] Mind increased by 0.0104 to 28.397
[02:59:13] Ropemaking increased by 0.0382 to 46.261
[03:01:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0449 to 46.305
[03:01:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0231 to 46.329
[03:02:17] Mind logic increased by 0.0101 to 34.353
[03:02:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0389 to 46.367
[03:03:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0435 to 46.411
[03:07:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0230 to 46.434
[03:07:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0328 to 46.467
[03:08:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0236 to 46.490
[03:09:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0371 to 46.527
[03:09:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0440 to 46.571
[03:11:10] Ropemaking increased by 0.0323 to 46.604
[03:11:29] Ropemaking increased by 0.0399 to 46.644
[03:11:51] Ropemaking increased by 0.0430 to 46.687
[03:14:07] Ropemaking increased by 0.0320 to 46.719
[03:14:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0393 to 46.758
[03:14:48] Ropemaking increased by 0.0434 to 46.801
[03:15:08] Ropemaking increased by 0.0226 to 46.824
[03:15:42] Ropemaking increased by 0.0363 to 46.860
[03:16:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0221 to 46.882
[03:17:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0322 to 46.914
[03:17:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0364 to 46.951
[03:18:17] Mind logic increased by 0.0103 to 34.363
[03:18:17] Ropemaking increased by 0.0220 to 46.973
[03:18:52] Ropemaking increased by 0.0363 to 47.009
[03:19:47] Ropemaking increased by 0.0244 to 47.034
[03:20:03] Ropemaking increased by 0.0311 to 47.065
[03:21:46] Mind increased by 0.0104 to 28.408
[03:21:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0330 to 47.098
[03:22:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0373 to 47.135
[03:24:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0420 to 47.177
[03:25:02] Ropemaking increased by 0.0314 to 47.208
[03:26:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0313 to 47.240
[03:26:33] Ropemaking increased by 0.0364 to 47.276
[03:28:19] Ropemaking increased by 0.0371 to 47.313
[03:29:15] Ropemaking increased by 0.0323 to 47.346
[03:29:34] Ropemaking increased by 0.0391 to 47.385
[03:29:57] Ropemaking increased by 0.0439 to 47.428
[03:30:27] Ropemaking increased by 0.0228 to 47.451
[03:30:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0329 to 47.484
[03:31:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0364 to 47.521
[03:32:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0227 to 47.543
[03:32:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0315 to 47.575
[03:32:39] Ropemaking increased by 0.0369 to 47.612
[03:33:03] Repairing increased by 0.0119 to 30.247
[03:33:36] Mind logic increased by 0.0106 to 34.374
[03:34:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0118 to 47.624
[03:34:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0229 to 47.647
[03:35:20] Ropemaking increased by 0.0376 to 47.684
[03:36:14] Ropemaking increased by 0.0214 to 47.706
[03:36:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0316 to 47.737
[03:41:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0107 to 47.748
[03:41:58] Ropemaking increased by 0.0185 to 47.766
[03:42:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0214 to 47.788
[03:53:16] Ropemaking increased by 0.0175 to 47.805
[03:54:40] Ropemaking increased by 0.0177 to 47.823
[03:55:04] Ropemaking increased by 0.0114 to 47.834
[03:56:26] Ropemaking increased by 0.0112 to 47.846
[03:58:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0209 to 47.866
[04:01:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0206 to 47.887
[04:02:49] Ropemaking increased by 0.0175 to 47.905
[04:04:59] Mind increased by 0.0102 to 28.418
[04:05:18] Ropemaking increased by 0.0190 to 47.924
[04:05:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0111 to 47.935
[04:06:38] Ropemaking increased by 0.0136 to 47.948
[04:07:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0207 to 47.969
[04:08:32] Ropemaking increased by 0.0141 to 47.983
[04:12:23] Ropemaking increased by 0.0206 to 48.004
[04:14:11] Ropemaking increased by 0.0207 to 48.025
[04:18:01] Ropemaking increased by 0.0176 to 48.042
[04:18:23] Miscellaneous items increased by 0.0100 to 61.271
[04:18:55] Mind logic increased by 0.0100 to 34.384
[04:19:30] Ropemaking increased by 0.0379 to 48.080
[04:20:24] Ropemaking increased by 0.0326 to 48.113
[04:21:06] Ropemaking increased by 0.0446 to 48.157
[04:21:59] Ropemaking increased by 0.0361 to 48.193
[04:22:22] Ropemaking increased by 0.0424 to 48.236
[04:22:56] Ropemaking increased by 0.0307 to 48.266
[04:23:55] Ropemaking increased by 0.0222 to 48.289
[04:24:12] Ropemaking increased by 0.0311 to 48.320
[04:24:54] Ropemaking increased by 0.0419 to 48.362
[04:24:55] Repairing increased by 0.0119 to 30.259
[04:25:46] Ropemaking increased by 0.0212 to 48.383
[04:26:21] Ropemaking increased by 0.0358 to 48.419
[04:26:44] Ropemaking increased by 0.0416 to 48.460
[04:27:59] Ropemaking increased by 0.0358 to 48.496
[04:28:41] Ropemaking increased by 0.0207 to 48.517
[04:29:39] Ropemaking increased by 0.0411 to 48.558

Edited by Wargasm

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Maybe it's because you're going against your religion? maybe gains that aren't forbidden by deity, aren't halved?


Edited by Kurson

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Id like to see the logs of 10 actions at full stam before priesitng and after priesting. Your skilltick sizes dont make sense at all , the timers are all over the place.


 


I will priest up myself in a week or two and if i dont forget ill test it aswell


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I have done extensive testing recently of the relationship between ropemaking skill, ropetool ql and wemp ql and this is a good time to share it.  The summary is:


1. Character skill is important but not critical.  Amount of favor produced is linear with skill. See Test A;


2. Ql of the ropetool is critical at higher levels and is not linear but perhaps exponential.  See Test B;


3. Ql of the wemp is not important after a point compared to the ql of the ropetool (speculation) and your skill level.  See Test B.


 


TEST A (300 Cordage Produced)


 


Ropetool: 89.24 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 86.56


Skill: 90.0


Favor: 1371


 


Ropetool: 90.03 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 87.09


Skill: 70.0


Favor: 1075


 


Assuming linearity, 1371/0.9 = 1523 max * 0.7 = 1066 predicted favor at 70 skill.  Very close to achieved 1075.  Linearity with skill level proved.


 


Test A ignores the changing chance of success at a different skill level since it tests for 300 cordage made, not how long it took or how much wemp it took.


 


TEST B (1000 Wemp Processed)


 


Ropetool: 89.47 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 90.07


Skill: 90.3


Favor: 3229


 


Ropetool: 95.05 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 90.09


Skill: 90.75


Favor: 4237


 


Another data set


 


Ropetool: 89.0 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 98.49


Skill: 90.5


Favor: 3355


 


Ropetool: 95.05 Regular Rope Tool


Wemp ql: 98.49


Skill: 90.75


Favor: 4020


 


Note that first I was testing for wemp ql making a difference so the tests were not actually done at the same time which is why the skill varies a little.  You can clearly see that the impact of ql of the ropetool far exceeds a linear relationship and is therefore critical.  I have not tested at lower ropetool ql to see how say an 85ql ropetool compares.  You can also see that the ql of the wemp made zero difference between 90 and 98.5 on the tests.


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The tools I used:


102 coc water


94 coc needle


87 coc scissors


 


The water was what was giving explosive skillgain.  If I were to have done the imping the perfect way, I'd have imped with string on the first action and water on the 4th action (when my stamina is almost empty).  The 4th action was taking 25 seconds and my stamina would not go completely empty, so the ticks were bigger.


 


At times I was imping all water, all scissors, all needles, but mostly it was a mixed bag of the three.  From the skill gains you can *clearly* see when I was imping with string and when I was imping with other tools.  You can also clearly see that the skill ticks as a priest were .01-.035, where after I was de-priested they were ranging from .3 to .70.  A couple points of CoC or a couple seconds on the action timer will NOT account for this disparity in skillgain. 


 


It literally looks like I turned on sleep bonus when I de-priested.


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This is all great info, thanks folks!

Now I just need to figure out to make sure I know how to avoid stupid mistakes with the water before getting it a high enchantment!

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That I can help with too.


 


Every time you try to improve a net trap with water, 1.00 kg is used.  A small barrel holds 45 kg of water.  Once you enchant or refill your barrel, drink from it, so there's 44.80 kg of water.  When there is .80kg of water left, the water will not be used and the imping will not continue until you fill again.


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- All the tools are different CoC


- We dont have the eventlog to see when you were using which tool


- We dont have the eventlog to see when you turned SB on and Off


- We dont have the eventlog to see how long an action lasted


- You should've tested this creating 100 normal ropes as priest and 100 as non-priest. This would give better results. 


 


-IF- skillgain is lower for IMPING as a priest, why do you call that a nerf? Priests are losing faith when they imp and should not even be able to do it. Maybe that is why you have a reduced skillgain IF your logs are true and we see the eventlog with it. 


 


Go make 100 ropes at 30 faith. Priest up, and create another 100. And do them all at full stam with the same ropetool from the same QL wemp. Creation skillgain should be the same for Priest and Non-Priest. While you're at it also log your characteristic gains to see by how much % those are reduced. I think webba already proved in his post that creation skillgain is exactly the same.


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My event log is a convoluted mess.  I had my other toon making strings of cloth standing right beside her, so my event log is filled with extra messages.  But, here's 5 minutes before and 30 minutes after the de-priesting.

 

Event Log

[19:31:37] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:31:37] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[19:31:37] You start to improve the net trap.
[19:31:53] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:31:53] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:31:53] You start to improve the net trap.
[19:32:12] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:32:12] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[19:35:44] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:35:45] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:35:46] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:35:46] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:35:47] You're too busy.
[19:35:55] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:35:55] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:36:11] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:36:11] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:36:30] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:36:30] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:36:52] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:37:14] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:37:17] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:37:17] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:37:17] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:37:26] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:37:26] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:37:42] You damage the net trap a little.
[19:37:42] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:38:01] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:38:01] Vynora no longer accepts you as a priest!
[19:38:01] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:38:22] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:38:30] You start repairing the net trap.
[19:38:32] You repair the net trap.
[19:38:34] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:38:35] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:38:36] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:38:45] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:38:45] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[19:38:45] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:39:02] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:39:02] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:39:21] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[19:40:28] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:40:29] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:40:29] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:40:31] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:40:31] You're too busy.
[19:40:39] You damage the net trap a little.
[19:40:39] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:40:55] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:40:55] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[19:40:55] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:41:14] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:41:14] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:41:29] After improving you will start repairing.
[19:41:36] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:41:36] You start repairing the net trap.
[19:41:37] You repair the net trap.
[19:41:56] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:41:56] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:41:57] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:41:58] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:42:07] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:42:07] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[19:42:07] You start washing the net trap.
[19:42:23] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:42:23] You start washing the net trap.
[19:42:42] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:42:42] You start washing the net trap.
[19:43:04] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:43:19] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:43:19] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:43:20] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:43:21] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:43:30] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:43:30] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:43:46] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:43:46] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:44:06] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:44:06] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[19:44:06] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:44:06] Cormall lost link.
[19:44:06] Cormall left the world.
[19:44:28] You damage the net trap a little.
[19:45:28] You start repairing the net trap.
[19:45:29] You repair the net trap.
[19:45:29] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:45:30] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:45:31] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:45:31] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:45:41] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:45:41] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:45:57] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:45:57] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:46:16] You damage the net trap a little.
[19:46:16] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:46:38] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:47:06] You start repairing the net trap.
[19:47:07] You repair the net trap.
[19:47:10] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:47:10] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:47:10] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:47:12] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:47:21] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[19:47:21] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:47:37] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[19:47:37] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:47:56] You improve the net trap a bit.
[19:47:56] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[19:47:56] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:48:18] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:48:34] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[19:48:34] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:48:35] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:48:36] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:48:45] You damage the net trap a little.
[19:48:45] You start backstitching the net trap.
[19:49:01] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:49:01] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:49:04] After improving you will start repairing.
[19:49:20] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[19:49:20] You start cutting the net trap.
[19:49:22] You refrain from using the sleep bonus.
[19:49:43] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[19:49:43] You start repairing the net trap.
[19:49:44] You repair the net trap.
[19:59:32] Leifar lost link.
[19:59:33] Leifar left the world.
[19:59:34] You start washing the net trap.
[19:59:34] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:59:35] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:59:37] After improving you will start improving again.
[19:59:37] Wargasm starts working with the spindle on the cotton.
[19:59:40] You start using the sleep bonus.
[19:59:45] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[19:59:45] You start washing the net trap.
[20:00:01] You improve the net trap a bit.
[20:00:01] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[20:00:01] You start washing the net trap.
[20:00:20] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[20:00:20] You start washing the net trap.
[20:00:42] The net trap has some excess cloth that needs to be cut away with a scissors.
[20:00:53] You are too far away to do that.
[20:01:02] You fill the small barrel with water.
[20:01:05] The water is refreshing and it cools you down.
[20:01:20] You start washing the net trap.
[20:01:22] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:01:22] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:01:23] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:01:32] You improve the net trap a bit.
[20:01:32] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[20:01:32] You start washing the net trap.
[20:01:48] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[20:01:49] You start washing the net trap.
[20:02:07] You damage the net trap a little.
[20:02:08] You start washing the net trap.
[20:02:25] After improving you will start repairing.
[20:02:30] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[20:02:30] You start repairing the net trap.
[20:02:32] You repair the net trap.
[20:02:36] You start washing the net trap.
[20:02:37] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:02:38] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:02:39] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:02:48] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[20:02:48] You start backstitching the net trap.
[20:03:03] The net trap has a seam that needs to be hidden by slipstitching with an iron needle.
[20:03:04] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[20:03:22] You damage the net trap a little.
[20:03:23] You start cutting the net trap.
[20:03:44] You improve the net trap a bit.
[20:03:44] The net trap could be improved with a string of cloth.
[20:03:51] You start repairing the net trap.
[20:03:53] You repair the net trap.
[20:03:53] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[20:03:53] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:03:54] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:03:55] After improving you will start improving again.
[20:04:04] The net trap has an open seam that must be backstitched with an iron needle to improve.
[20:04:04] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[20:04:20] The net trap has some stains that must be washed away.
[20:04:20] You start slipstitching the net trap.
[20:04:38] You damage the net trap a little.
[20:04:39] You start cutting the net trap.

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It took me (well Qex) about 2-3 months of grinding net traps to get to about ~93 skill .  I went about ~6 or a little more a day. No sleep bonus, about 70's nutrition, 60 to 70's enchants.


When I was done I had around 300 net traps. 


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Toward the end I think I was getting somewhere between .30 and .50 per hour.  I ran completely out of string and had about 12 traps left to imp that didn't require string when I hit 90 and happily walked away.


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