Posted March 9, 2015 remove stamina drain on all mounts and vehicles. this just feels like some mistake in the coding that never got fixed.secondly, allow crafting and improving and everything else for captains and passengers of any vehicle.(not mounts). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 I'll see your -1 and raise it a +1. There's no reason for stamina drain on vehicles. It just makes fighting something stupid. You have to stop after a very short time to regain your stamina, because if you get ganked with no stamina, you're kinda hosed and slow to respond. It also makes it that in mob heavy areas you have to *stop* to regain stamina, which is very inconvenient. The horse or wagon is carrying me, not the other way around. You don't get completely exhausted by driving a wagon for 45 seconds. Also, whilst crafting for the captain is a bit of a stretch, crafting for the passengers is not. People did plenty of crafting whilst riding in wagons in the old days. Heck, people built whole pieces of furniture whilst riding in the back of a 'wagon train' in the Old West. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 From freedom perspective + 1Pvp perspective -1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 They removed crafting while on a cart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 at the least explain yourself instead of just leaving your -1 behind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 Clarification arrived before i could refresh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 really dont see how it could possibly hurt pvp if its applied to all players, sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 Can already craft in passenger, but I can see how crafting as driver would be a bit weird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 Probably because watching stamina while riding a horse and preying on captains that don't know how to drive a boat properly that are with 0 stamina is a pvp tacticthat just explains how people abuse it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 that just explains how people abuse it No... because stamina is required to fight properly. That's like saying people are abusing a shield to block 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 -1 Not only is this a good feature for fighting but infinite stam could be abused for skillgain so much, climb till at 1% stam embark in a cart next to the forge and start imping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 +1 to removing stamina drain while riding on all non-pvp servers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 It makes absolutely no sense for you to have the ability to craft and command a vehicle or mount. If were gonna have un-sensible suggestions, I suggest jumping! Cuz thats totally gonna work in wurm & makes perfect sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) No... because stamina is required to fight properly. That's like saying people are abusing a shield to blockwhat i meant is you didnt explain why this mechanic is there in the first place, you just told me how players use this mechanic to their advantage. -1 Not only is this a good feature for fighting but infinite stam could be abused for skillgain so much, climb till at 1% stam embark in a cart next to the forge and start imping im sorry but i dont get what you mean, doesnt improving drain stamina? Edited March 9, 2015 by dapperdan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 what i meant is you didnt explain why this mechanic is there in the first place, you just told me how players use this mechanic to their advantage.-1 Not only is this a good feature for fighting but infinite stam could be abused for skillgain so much, climb till at 1% stam embark in a cart next to the forge and start imping[/quoteim sorry but i dont get what you mean, doesnt improving drain stamina?They are talking about how some lame tweakers damage themselves or drain their stamina and then craft, because the action timer takes longer and therefore you get more crafting tics. Personally I think it's 100% cheesedick and exploiting game mechanics. I've got better things to do with my playtime than try to milk the system for a few extra tics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 They are talking about how some lame tweakers damage themselves or drain their stamina and then craft, because the action timer takes longer and therefore you get more crafting tics.Personally I think it's 100% cheesedick and exploiting game mechanics. I've got better things to do with my playtime than try to milk the system for a few extra tics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 call me all the insults you'd like. I will continue to enjoy the skill gains from playing the system how it is.I agree with the people saying +1 for Pve and -1 for pvp. Yet another call for separate coding.can someone explain to me please why stamina drain is so important to pvp, im genuinely interested. i get that its a common tactic, but if nobody can use this tactic doesnt that balance it out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 can someone explain to me please why stamina drain is so important to pvp, im genuinely interested. i get that its a common tactic, but if nobody can use this tactic doesnt that balance it out? The idea is that if you are on a quick horse and see an enemy on a cart and and they start running, you can chase them until their stamina has run out. Since you are able to go faster than them, you can regain some stamina while you let them run away a bit, draining theirs. In a wurm chase, its all about stamina management. Stamina management is also a key strategy in a fight because if you have no stamina then you are pretty crippled in fighting. I don't think you can block or parry and I'm pretty sure there are some offensive debuffs too. There are special abilities that sap the opponents stamina to get their stamina to drain faster. If a fight gets to the point where one person runs out of stamina, then the fight is pretty much over. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 9, 2015 -1, u can craft wooden shields alrdy as boat captain and on horseback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) The idea is that if you are on a quick horse and see an enemy on a cart and and they start running, you can chase them until their stamina has run out. Since you are able to go faster than them, you can regain some stamina while you let them run away a bit, draining theirs. In a wurm chase, its all about stamina management. Stamina management is also a key strategy in a fight because if you have no stamina then you are pretty crippled in fighting. I don't think you can block or parry and I'm pretty sure there are some offensive debuffs too. There are special abilities that sap the opponents stamina to get their stamina to drain faster. If a fight gets to the point where one person runs out of stamina, then the fight is pretty much over. Edited March 10, 2015 by dapperdan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2015 For the same reason you want your stamina to fight the trolls. Manage yours right and hope the enemy manages theirs poorly, its one of many aspects involved in a fight, especially in a boat fight, once the captain runs out of stam he is going to drop like a sack of potatoes and then that's one less number of the opposition and one better your side is doing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites