Posted January 9, 2015 Usually, i take information from newspaper around "west countries" as germany for example, which usually spread american or we call it, west propaganda. There are still independent sources, which can confirm whats going on. Last report was in mainstream (official report as they call it) and go all around europe. And you tell me it is russian propaganda. Most people in europe are like you, with closed eyes. For you: A russian propaganda http://i.imgur.com/XiuYZRt.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2015 "Revolution" You say you want a revolutionWell, you knowWe all want to change the worldYou tell me that it's evolutionWell, you knowWe all want to change the worldBut when you talk about destructionDon't you know that you can count me outDon't you know it's gonna be alrightAlright, alrightYou say you got a real solutionWell, you knowWe'd all love to see the planYou ask me for a contributionWell, you knowWe're all doing what we canBut if you want money for people with minds that hateAll I can tell you is brother you have to waitDon't you know it's gonna be alrightAlright, alright,You say you'll change the constitutionWell, you knowWe all want to change your headYou tell me it's the institutionWell, you knowYou'd better free your mind insteadBut if you go carrying pictures of Chairman MaoYou ain't going to make it with anyone anyhowDon't you know know it's gonna be alrightAlright, alright Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2015 Usually, i take information from newspaper around "west countries" as germany for example, which usually spread american or we call it, west propaganda. There are still independent sources, which can confirm whats going on. Last report was in mainstream (official report as they call it) and go all around europe. And you tell me it is russian propaganda. Most people in europe are like you, with closed eyes. For you: A russian propaganda http://i.imgur.com/XiuYZRt.jpg Citations? Examples? Your last post had all the numbers wrong, so I don't know what sources you use. Russia didn't offer to give anything for free. At the time the offer was for coal without prepayment (as in pay later) so not free. Secondly it wasn't 1 billion tons and then an extra 500 million like you said. It was 500 million at first and then an extra 500 million with additional agreements for a total of 1 billion. Citation: http://rt.com/business/218103-russia-coal-electricity-ukraine/ RT is state owned media of the Russian government The aid promised to Ukraine by the US in Dec was $350 million, not $450 million like you claimed. Citation: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/12/ukraine-welcomes-prospect-us-military-aid-2014121382958449175.html Alijazeera chosen as source because only an idiot would accuse them of American bias If you are going to go about prattling jingoistic propaganda, take the effort to actually get the details correct and then twist the truth. Otherwise you just sound as bad as Faux News. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2015 The only thing I can think of this... Churchill suggested in 1945 that we steamroll the Soviet Union while we had the numbers and power to do so already on the ground in Europe, trained and battlehardened, capable of doing the job. Needless to say, the "West" decided against this. They continued to decide against this all through the Cold War. They continued to decide against this after the Cold War ended. It really is not in the world's best interests for any of the powers, Eastern, Western, or otherwise affiliated, to actually do more than shake sticks at each other from across the expanse of the playground. How many people do you think will be sacraficed if either side actually did something more than rattle their sabres? Everyone in power knows what would happen, including Putin. (He's not stupid you know?)Idk about Churchill but it was Patton that advocated a war with Russia, which led to his untimely demise imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2015 Btw this sure seems like pretty heavy-- entering North Korea-- propaganda. Always had the goosebumps when thinking about Russia. Feel bad for any neighboring countries to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 15, 2015 (At the time the offer was for coal without prepayment (as in pay later) so not free.) It is. Russia give it free. Because Ukraine has previously been unable to pay arrears for Russian supplies, some can still remember how the Russians offered Ukraine for example gas for a cheaper amount and Ukraine government refused. UA owes $ 5.5 billion for gas to Russia, then RU cut of gas and tell them that, they will have gas when they pay prepayment. then russians decided despite the fact that Ukraine is not able to repay coal and soon go bankrupt, so make the sale 'coal Ukraine will be a gift that Russia will continue to supply Ukraine 50,000 tons of coal a day to her during the winter help. News agency does have the same name as the TV station RT (formerly Russia Today), but it is in no way connected since 2013 source: aljazeera . In same year, there was news on rt.com, where they lie about Fukushima radiation numbers. But who care. Numbers are numbers but acts are acts. People can see that, russians are not the bad guys as USA present it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
