Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Today on Deliverance I fought a venerable greenish troll for almost one hour (log below). I was not intentionally trying to extend the fight. I was fighting to win and win quickly. But something has happened to the strength of trolls that it would take me nigh an hour to kill one. I had to back away many times to heal and repair my armor and weapon. I had excellent chain armor all with high aosp. I had a LS with LT, MS, and NIM. I also have 70+ fighting, 70+ longsword, and 40+ body strength. I was also mounted, originally on a wagon where he ambushed me, but then on a horse. I said all of that to say that I REALLY APPRECIATE the fact that this troll gave me a good workout. It was a great PVE experience and I hope that future tweaks to the strength of animals will be made. For example, I would love to have a long fight with a bear that is strong enough to live up to its real-life reputation. Thanks Rolf and the Team for tweaking the strength of trolls enough to make the experience so exciting. ====[12:54:05] Venerable greenish troll moves in to attack you.[12:54:09] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[12:54:16] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[12:54:16] Venerable greenish troll moves in to attack you.[12:54:29] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:04] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:05] A venerable greenish troll hits the wagon with huge force![13:06:17] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:06:17] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:22] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:06:22] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:25] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower left parts.[13:06:27] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower left parts.[13:06:28] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:06:28] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:35] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his left parts.[13:06:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:06:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:45] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:06:45] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:50] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:06:50] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:07] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:09] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your right parts.[13:12:11] Venerable greenish troll targets your right parts.[13:12:14] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:12:24] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:12:24] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:30] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:12:30] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right thigh and hurts it.[13:12:30] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:30] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the lower back and harms it.[13:12:30] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:34] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your uppercenter parts.[13:12:36] Venerable greenish troll targets your uppercenter parts.[13:12:37] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the head and harms it.[13:12:37] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:41] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the head and harms it.[13:12:41] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:45] Venerable greenish troll seems to focus.[13:12:47] Venerable greenish troll looks disturbed.[13:16:20] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:27] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:30] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:16:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:58] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:16:58] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:04] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:17:04] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:06] You try to focus.[13:17:10] You balance your feet and your soul.[13:17:10] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:17:13] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:17:14] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:17:20] You lose some focus.[13:17:20] Venerable greenish troll kicks you extremely hard in the chest and hurts it.[13:17:20] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:21] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:17:21] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:22] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:17:26] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his right parts.[13:17:32] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:17:32] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:47] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:53] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:21:53] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:59] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:21:59] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:25:26] Old huge spider moves in to attack you.[13:31:32] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:38] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:31:38] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:49] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:31:49] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:54] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:32:00] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your upper right parts.[13:32:01] Venerable greenish troll targets your upper right parts.[13:32:02] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right upper arm and harms it.[13:32:02] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:32:12] Venerable greenish troll seems to focus.[13:32:14] Venerable greenish troll now seems more focused.[13:32:15] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the neck and harms it.[13:32:15] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:32:17] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right shoulder and harms it.[13:32:17] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:37:56] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:07] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:38:20] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the right thigh and harm it.[13:38:20] Venerable greenish troll bites you deadly hard in the left thigh and harms it.[13:38:20] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:24] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:38:24] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:29] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:38:32] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower left parts.[13:38:33] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left underarm and harm it.[13:38:34] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower left parts.[13:38:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left calf and harms it.[13:38:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:43] Venerable greenish troll bites you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:38:43] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:47] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:38:47] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:52] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:38:52] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:26] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:33] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:43:40] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your right parts.[13:43:41] Venerable greenish troll targets your right parts.[13:43:43] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:43:43] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:49] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:43:49] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:50] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right upper arm and irritates it.[13:43:50] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:54] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:43:54] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:55] Venerable greenish troll bites you deadly hard in the right upper arm and harms it.[13:43:55] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:44:06] Venerable greenish troll makes a bad move and is an easy target![13:44:09] Venerable greenish troll regains his bearings.[13:44:10] Venerable greenish troll kicks you extremely hard in the left hand and hurts it.[13:44:10] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:17] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:26] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:30] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:50:38] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:50:38] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:40] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right hand and hurts it.[13:50:40] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:41] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:50:52] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:50:55] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:50:59] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left underarm and harm it.[13:51:00] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:51:00] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:06] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:51:06] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:06] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:51:08] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your left parts.[13:51:10] Venerable greenish troll targets your left parts.[13:51:19] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his left parts.[13:51:22] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:51:22] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:27] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower right parts.[13:51:29] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower right parts.[13:51:30] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:51:39] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:51:39] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:45] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:51:45] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:47] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:51:50] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:51:50] Venerable greenish troll is dead. R.I.P. Edited November 27, 2014 by Eyesgood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 I think you just had one of those encounters where nothing goes your way and you're better off switching off the computer for an hour and screaming into a bucket. It happens. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 I just think it's too bad trolls destroy a large metal shield from 0 damage to crumble to dust in one shot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 Greenish on top of it... Good kill, bad luck overcome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Eyes, what is your shield skill? I prefer to archer them because of the insane shield damage... well, I did when archery actually worked. I guess is might still kinda work if you wear studded. For future reference: http://webdepp.sense-net.at/~toni/wurm/combatlog.php [12:54:05] Venerable greenish troll moves in to attack you.[12:54:09] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[12:54:16] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[12:54:16] Venerable greenish troll moves in to attack you.[12:54:29] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:04] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:05] A venerable greenish troll hits the wagon with huge force![13:06:17] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:06:17] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:22] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:06:22] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:25] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower left parts.[13:06:27] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower left parts.[13:06:28] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:06:28] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:35] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his left parts.[13:06:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:06:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:45] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:06:45] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:06:50] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:06:50] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:07] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:09] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your right parts.[13:12:11] Venerable greenish troll targets your right parts.[13:12:14] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:12:24] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:12:24] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:30] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:12:30] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right thigh and hurts it.[13:12:30] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:30] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the lower back and harms it.[13:12:30] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:34] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your uppercenter parts.[13:12:36] Venerable greenish troll targets your uppercenter parts.[13:12:37] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the head and harms it.[13:12:37] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:41] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the head and harms it.[13:12:41] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:12:45] Venerable greenish troll seems to focus.[13:12:47] Venerable greenish troll looks disturbed.[13:16:20] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:27] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:30] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:16:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:16:58] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:16:58] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:04] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:17:04] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:06] You try to focus.[13:17:10] You balance your feet and your soul.[13:17:10] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:17:13] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:17:14] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:17:20] You lose some focus.[13:17:20] Venerable greenish troll kicks you extremely hard in the chest and hurts it.[13:17:20] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:21] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:17:21] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:17:22] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:17:26] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his right parts.[13:17:32] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:17:32] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:47] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:53] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:21:53] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:21:59] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:21:59] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:25:26] Old huge spider moves in to attack you.[13:31:32] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:38] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:31:38] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:49] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:31:49] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:31:54] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[13:32:00] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your upper right parts.[13:32:01] Venerable greenish troll targets your upper right parts.[13:32:02] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right upper arm and harms it.[13:32:02] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:32:12] Venerable greenish troll seems to focus.[13:32:14] Venerable greenish troll now seems more focused.[13:32:15] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the neck and harms it.[13:32:15] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:32:17] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right shoulder and harms it.[13:32:17] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:37:56] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:07] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:38:20] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the right thigh and harm it.[13:38:20] Venerable greenish troll bites you deadly hard in the left thigh and harms it.[13:38:20] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:24] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right underarm and harms it.[13:38:24] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:29] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:38:32] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower left parts.[13:38:33] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left underarm and harm it.[13:38:34] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower left parts.[13:38:36] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left calf and harms it.[13:38:36] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:43] Venerable greenish troll bites you extremely hard in the left underarm and harms it.[13:38:43] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:47] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:38:47] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:38:52] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the left foot and harms it.[13:38:52] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:26] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:33] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:43:40] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your right parts.[13:43:41] Venerable greenish troll targets your right parts.[13:43:43] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:43:43] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:49] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:43:49] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:50] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right upper arm and irritates it.[13:43:50] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:54] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:43:54] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:43:55] Venerable greenish troll bites you deadly hard in the right upper arm and harms it.[13:43:55] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:44:06] Venerable greenish troll makes a bad move and is an easy target![13:44:09] Venerable greenish troll regains his bearings.[13:44:10] Venerable greenish troll kicks you extremely hard in the left hand and hurts it.[13:44:10] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:17] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:26] You try to cut a Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:30] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:50:38] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:50:38] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:40] Venerable greenish troll kicks you very hard in the right hand and hurts it.[13:50:40] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:50:41] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:50:52] You cut Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:50:55] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:50:59] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left underarm and harm it.[13:51:00] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right hand and harms it.[13:51:00] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:06] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the chest and harms it.[13:51:06] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:06] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the left thigh and harm it.[13:51:08] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your left parts.[13:51:10] Venerable greenish troll targets your left parts.[13:51:19] Venerable greenish troll seems to shelter his left parts.[13:51:22] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.[13:51:22] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:27] Venerable greenish troll seems to target your lower right parts.[13:51:29] Venerable greenish troll targets your lower right parts.[13:51:30] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:51:39] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:51:39] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:45] Venerable greenish troll mauls you extremely hard in the right thigh and harms it.[13:51:45] Your armour hurts Venerable greenish troll.[13:51:47] You pierce Venerable greenish troll extremely hard in the chest and harm it.[13:51:50] You maul Venerable greenish troll deadly hard in the stomach and harm it.[13:51:50] Venerable greenish troll is dead. R.I.P. EDIT: nvm realized you're dual wielding - that explains a lot lolYour logs do seem to be missing the troll's parry attempts. Edited November 27, 2014 by SotG_is_OP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 I wish hunting was harder and more exciting. I do play on Epic but i hunt in cloth armor and a low ql shield and never have any real problems killing stuff in little time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 that would have been a great venue to spectate and gamble wager the outcome. you had to be in shock..and only after the fact have a satisfying sigh of relief and achievement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 Hah! I think the troll you were fighting was drunk... [13:06:05] A venerable greenish troll hits the wagon with huge force! ...then he got tired of you trying to cut him and turned into an angry drunk hitting you hard. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) i dont think its the trolls i don't see any shield blocking, which makes everything super easyi see you were on a wagon, so thats like -2? -4? cr for the first half of the fight Edited November 27, 2014 by Propheteer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2014 Greenish mobs are very close in strength to champion mobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Using the wrong gear for that kind of mob anyways, trolls are armoured so a longsword is nowhere near as effective as a maul. Chain doesn't help either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Using the wrong gear for that kind of mob anyways, trolls are armoured so a longsword is nowhere near as effective as a maul. Chain doesn't help either. Armor doesn't affect how much damage you do per damage type, but it can affect different glance rates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Armor doesn't affect how much damage you do per damage type, but it can affect different glance rates He never said anything about damage, just a general statement of creature type vs weapon type, which is well documented. I've never had a problem like that though, even just switching over to my combat sickle I'd be pretty surprised if I had a fight that took that long, pretty crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Armor doesn't affect how much damage you do per damage type, but it can affect different glance rates I'm not sure about now after recent updates, but piercing always used to be great against trolls, hence why people who didn't abuse alts used them as pin cushions for easy archery skill. By that logic, swords should be very good against trolls (and they are - high LT longsword with a shield are highly effective against trolls and pretty much any non-unique non-drake/eagle/nogump assuming you have the skills to use them). If studded had higher damage reduction, it would theoretically be great against trolls because the glance rate against mauling is so high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 I didn't use a shield, I held an LT maul in my left hand which I always have with me. I thought about switching to the maul but my skill is low. I did switch mid-way from chain to plate, but the plate did not seem to protect me better than the chain so I switched back. I also switched from the wagon (he surprised me enroute) to a horse and most of the fight was on the horse. I wasn't hunting today, just doing work around the deed when he came up behind the wagon. But regardless, it was a great fight and I enjoyed it very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 The wrong combat build to be fighting a troll, I can easily wipe the floor with Champions in my lowest plate armor... (Plate armor is alot better then some people think.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Weapon skill doesn't do much aside from parry rate because hit/miss is affected by CR. Dual wielding sucks. There's really no situation I can think of where dual wielding would be a good option. One hand and shield or a two hander would be better for pretty much all scenarios. I'd prefer 1h + shield because of the defensive ability, but two handed might be better if your shield skill sucks. I still would rather use archery over anything against trolls because they destroy shields (10+ damage from a single fight) if the plate nerf didn't suck so much. To put things in perspective: using an 80/80/80 character on Epic with an LT longsword, I can kill a troll in about a minute and end at full health without backing off. That may sound impressive to some, but it's really nothing special by PvP server standards. Fight skill isn't curved for PvE, while shield/weapon are effectively mid-high 90s, but you can achieve the same results with lower (80s should do). Keep in mind that body stats actually mean something on Freedom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Trolls are also quite hard to 1v1 while still doing enough damage, especially with the greenish strength. Best fought in groups with aggressive flanking 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 I love it how he expressed joy to having a good fight and the overwhelming response was what he did wrong. I'm happy you had a good day, Eyesgood. Might want to bring an umbrella to the parade. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 I love it how he expressed joy to having a good fight and the overwhelming response was what he did wrong. I'm happy you had a good day, Eyesgood. Might want to bring an umbrella to the parade. Its more that he goes "Thanks Rolf for buffing Trolls, please buff other mobs like this", when nothing has occurred, he is just handicapping himself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) When I first came to wurm like 4 years ago, I wanted to duel wield. Then I was told that it's horrible and was nerfed into the ground. So I never looked back at that. I've typically always used longsword and large metal shield, but really been thinking of going large axe and large metal. LT has been annoying me also, while yes it's nice to heal. but it just doesn't hit as hard as frostbrand. Trolls are pretty tough though, every once in awhile I even have to back up for a min to heal a couple mediums through 80ql plate. It being greenish is what really gets you. that and chain is pretty weak imo. just seems like a waste of time fighting anything for that long for basically nothing of value. edit, but glad you had fun and killed it. Edited November 28, 2014 by Aetherion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2014 Keep in mind that body stats actually mean something on Freedom.An not on epic? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites