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[Chaos Only] Add Increasing Respawn Timer On Death

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Pretty simple suggestion, this would apply to Chaos only for now as it seems to be the only place people are pathetic enough to abuse alts to retarded extents. People from all kingdoms and sides know that alt abuse is stupid, pathetic, and downright annoying, and almost every kingdom currently does it.

When an account dies more than once within 10 or 15 minutes, make them wait a minute or two before they are allowed to respawn again, and increase this every time they die, up to a maximum of one hour.

This would mean that if you are a legit player who dies in PvP or near a deed, you are able to get right back into the action. Any legit player is also probably going to be more cautious, and take time getting back to the battle, so this likely wouldn't affect them in any way. But an alt, who dies say, 10 times within 5 minutes would end up with a 20 minute respawn timer.

The exact times are of course subject to change and are just my basic speculation on this concept.

Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

 

I think it is hilarious when people hide behind forum alt names like this lol. 

 

Aren't you MR guys good for Alts. Alts. Alts and more alts? Im 100% certain you guys got more alts logged in and stationed around, dying, poking more then any person around.

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I think it is hilarious when people hide behind forum alt names like this lol. 

 

Aren't you MR guys good for Alts. Alts. Alts and more alts? Im 100% certain you guys got more alts logged in and stationed around, dying, poking more then any person around.

With the 3 unpremm'd BL alts in my local, I don't think you can say much either.

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With the 3 unpremm'd BL alts in my local, I don't think you can say much either.

Mines Prem'd :)

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Well Ruger, we (MR) just sieged your pitiful sand-mound of a deed with 23 people, and only one MR account used in doing so was an alt. My mag priest Epicphail, actually, who is over 80FS and could hardly be called much of an "alt". (A fighter account that drops tabs and gear isn't really an alt in my opinion, at least not in this context)

BL, on the other hand, had to use about 7 alts to "defend?" their deed... You weren't really accomplishing anything whatsoever but you sure managed to make 92083641298 corpses to LotD on us, still to no avail.

+1 to this idea and +9001 to stopping alt abuse once and for all

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Well Ruger, we (MR) just sieged your pitiful sand-mound of a deed with 23 people, and only one MR account used in doing so was an alt. My mag priest Epicphail, actually, who is over 80FS and could hardly be called much of an "alt". (A fighter account that drops tabs and gear isn't really an alt in my opinion)

BL, on the other hand, had to use about 7 alts to "defend?" their deed... You weren't really accomplishing anything whatsoever but you sure managed to make 92083641298 corpses to LotD on us, still to no avail.

+1 to this idea and +9001 to stopping alt abuse once and for all

 

Funny how my "pitiful sand-mound of a deed" took 23 people 2hours to raid and you guys now have more then 24 hours raiding it. lol Very pitiful indeed. =X

 

Wait so pitiful that boatpassengeralt is swimming  just outside the walls stealthed up and who knows how many other ones lol.

 

There was more then "1 alt" with you guys and their is more then 1 alt you guys have dumped in our local now.

 

The MR propaganda wheel is always in full spin, always, it never ends.

Also you guys sure did manage to 1 shot 85683641298 of those 92083641298 corpses.

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I sense ample amounts of "mad" and "butthurt" here, and I'd like it kept out of this thread please. Suggestions and discussion related to the topic only, stop derailing and forum PVP'ing. (I knew this would be an issue)

Wait so pitiful that boatpassengeralt is swimming  just outside the walls stealthed up and who knows how many other ones lol.

 

There was more then "1 alt" with you guys and their is more then 1 alt you guys have dumped in our local now.

Perfect Ruger then you see the point of my post yes? You could kill that alt now, and it will just come back. If this suggestion was implemented, whoever is running that alt would then be forced to ask themselves if it is worth it, having to deal with constant rez timers. In most cases it would deter them. However surely this would go both ways.

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+1, I hate anyone that does it no matter what sides, it's metagaming to hell and dumb


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Just remove f2p from chaos

Mines Prem'd :)

That does not, and will not, solve jack- and you know it. People have already admitted to preming alts JUST to watch locals and suicide at larger forces. Something else, needs to be done.

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That does not, and will not, solve jack-###### and you know it. People have already admitted to preming alts JUST to watch locals and suicide at larger forces. Something else, needs to be done.

 

Like, Stop posting ideas when you run out of tears.

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If you disagree with my idea then state so and state why, instead of flaming and trolling a legitimate suggestion.

Your ill-tidings with MR have nothing to do with me. Lots of crying coming from BL specifically and I'm not sure why, this affects EVERY kingdom equally. It's probably the most unbiased suggestion that's been put forward for the PVP community in months.

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This is Nintendojoe who doesn't play and lives to start drama. FYI. Chaos, take him. He is banished from epic.

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Now not only do I have false accusations being thrown around by randoms but yet still, more flaming.

For YOUR information, sir, I would never and have never allowed myself to stoop to the level of immaturity it takes to play on Epic, but that is another issue entirely.

Once again, stop with the trolling and flaming and crying and all this other crap. This is a suggestion. If you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion do not post. All others will be reported and removed.

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I guess playing on one server over the other determines the level of maturity, okay


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Pretty simple suggestion, this would apply to Chaos only for now as it seems to be the only place people are pathetic enough to abuse alts to retarded extents. People from all kingdoms and sides know that alt abuse is stupid, pathetic, and downright annoying, and almost every kingdom currently does it.

When an account dies more than once within 10 or 15 minutes, make them wait a minute or two before they are allowed to respawn again, and increase this every time they die, up to a maximum of one hour.

This would mean that if you are a legit player who dies in PvP or near a deed, you are able to get right back into the action. Any legit player is also probably going to be more cautious, and take time getting back to the battle, so this likely wouldn't affect them in any way. But an alt, who dies say, 10 times within 5 minutes would end up with a 20 minute respawn timer.

The exact times are of course subject to change and are just my basic speculation on this concept.

Thoughts?

If this is a free alt, then i +1  but if you are talking about a timer on premium accounts then i -1.

 

I take it though you are mainly talking about the use of scouting alts that are used as pawns, making an enemy waste time having to kill them. In that case sure a timer would be good.

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Honestly making timers will just mean people make more alts and cycle through them and even if they need to prem them that won't stop it as you see with the local list change.


 


If you really want to stop people using alts in PvP just make it a bannable offense; but none of the bs rules that were in place before that were totally open to personal interpretation and were selectively enforced; just say there is zero logging in alternate characters in a PvP situation (unless it is your main character) or there is a reasonable explanation; ie;


 


- Your deed is being attacked so you login a deed/writ holding account and don't make a nuisance of yourself (ie sits in the deed just adding people to writs/village)


- The character is clearly not a alt; ie has a bunch of skills - if your deed is being raided you might login other peoples characters for various legitimate reasons and not know if it had lapsed it's premium.


 


And to clear those who might have multiple characters for priest/crafting any character that has enough fs (20,5+) to pop death tabs is declared NOT A ALT; if someone wants to grind a alts fs and hand over free fs to the enemy I don't think anyone cares.


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Suiciding alts hundreds of times for a land of the dead cast is pathetic (and, for the record, largely innefective).

But also using alts to get into combat with people bashing to delay starting a new bash, or to keep stamina lowered, etc etc.

There really shouldn't be situations where you tag out your main, pvp capable account in favour of an alt with the sole purpose of letting it die. And that goes for every kingdom regardless of spells like land of the dead.

At least we got some pvp in the end, so props for that.

Once more for emphasis on why SOMETHING needs to be address with this nonsense:

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Lol you lost a fight, so you want the opponents strategy taken away. Typical day in chaos.

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I think it would affect defending sides the most, when it comes to deed raids, since we would most likely want to respawn within our own deed to protect it and it would be very likely to be killed again within that timeframe if an actual siege is going on.


Your suggestion doesn't really make a difference between alts and "legit" players. 


Also, the suggestion is based on every non premium player being an alt character of a legit player, which are by their own restrictions already easily dying (they can not even see enemies in local), what about NON alt players?


Those who just want to learn a little about chaos before going premium?


 


I think the direction of thinking isn't wrong though, I would love to have something game mechanical wise to make it more rewarding to play a main character only and less rewarding to constantly spam more alt accounts which is also taking away possible names for legit players. But I think lot's more needs to be changed game mechanical wise before "alts" loose their advantages. (currently being used for LoTD, safe item storage, spying, scouting and making alts from another faction to make priests for all religions)


 


 


 


unrelated to the suggestion:


why are you choosing such a provocative forum name if you want "serious" answers?


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