Posted December 18, 2014 -1 No, stop removing all the challenges from the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2014 -1 No, stop removing all the challenges from the game. They don't need removed. They need limited until you can effectively combat them while on a ship. I have killed at least 5 with a mag priest when they are not in a group. This was tricky, however, because you can't cast while moving meaning either A) you bail out of the boat into the water to cast or you anchor. As you can't move to a better position once anchored without a nice long timer, this is not a good idea. Remember, you are nailed to the boat. You can spin in a circle but you can't better your position without moving the boat. Fighting a long fight while swimming is not a good idea either. You tend to fatigue and drown. Now, do this with 2 or 3 of the damn things on you. I have had 4 at once down the east side of Release. There is always option C) where you pile them up on someone's tower for the next sod that comes along. It's not you, right? Who cares? Which is probably how the 4 got bunched up on the east side of Release. A challenge is one thing. A cluster(adjective) is quite another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) leading it around at 8-11km speeds, for hours. That's odd, one was able to hit me when I was going 15kmh+. oh, packs? I need to go sailing more. That is a sight worth seeing. Once on Release NE border I've counted at least 5 of them, so yeah They look nice but that's all they do nice. Edited December 18, 2014 by Samool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 19, 2014 Making them peaceful does not remove the challenge from the game. If you want a challenge, go fight one. What it does is provide players with choices. Making a game that appeals to a great diversity of players types is far smarter then imposing personal ideas, like "the game is better with danger", on all players alike. I been playing Wurm for 6 or 7 years, have hundreds of hours of play time. Some of my best experiences where actually back on JKH and early indy when monster spawning was very insignificant. It was very fun to play wurm and not have to worry about dumb mobs. Wurm is better when you can choose. Freedom to craft and alter your environment is what makes Wurm great. Unfortunately Wurm only listens to players who think its ok to impose their ideas on others. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 Some times I think that Rolf and Co. will not be satisfied until they create aggro mob encounters where every player involved in them must die. It seems that there is a distaste for too many players finding ways to avoid aggro encounters and going about their lives in a peaceful manner within these lands. This is the reason why I never make a post about how I have found various ways to avoid most aggro pests, since apparently this will never do. These overpowered sea serpent mechanics are just more of the same mindset. Aggro pests that will pursue you now for unending distances that can not be shaken off. Only more sustenance for the braggarts who state how easily they can handle them, while they gleefully chuckle at others misfortunes. Really, this is the mindset that you want to reinforce? Sad... =Ayes= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) -1, there's not enough of an element of danger in the game as is. Having them passive also neuters that sense of danger, so stating people can fight them regardless is kind of like non alcoholic beer, or avatars, more or less pointless. If you weren't meant to have any form of a challenge, there wouldn't be mobs to begin with. It's player vs environment, and some of my best times on Wurm can be linked to me dying a grizzly death. As far as the balance of those who would want a full creative mode, and those who desire more of a challenge, I think the creative mode crowd wins out, with everything being a mere nuisance more than a challenge with even decent combat skills. And here's what happens when you give everyone, every choice... >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXaS016fyA Edited December 20, 2014 by ShadowRonin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Cant freedom people just buyout the "freedom servers"-part of Codeclub and start their own "Nothing exciting ever online", so Rolf and the DEVs can focus on the exciting servers and we dont get force fed BS like these type of changes. And WTF!? Sea serpants doesnt even rate on a "danger"-scale as is. And i play with TWO working fingers. So... I might be disabled, but your perspective on what type of mechanics are to difficult in a game is frakking retarded. Pardon my french. Edited December 20, 2014 by permo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 -1, instead, make them more interesting to kill by dropping something small but interesting. It's really the only creature that is slightly challenging that you don't get cursed out for killing, and they're easy as hell to see and avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 Samool must have seen the same cluster I saw in NE Release. When you run into one of these clusters, they won't be cute and cuddly. One is fine. I can kill one. ONE. Not 3. Not 4. Not 5. You will have a great challenge when the wind is not blowing and you can't get away... getting your gear and boat back from that cluster. Here's to hoping you don't find it but if you do, remember your sentiments for those who have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 Hmm, maybe this can be fixed by adding AI for them so they attack each other.May help reduce the "herd". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 20, 2014 -1. I like that there are things which can actually kill people. Use your eyes, if you run into a 8 story heigh big ass snake, you kinda deserve to die. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2014 I wouldn't mind using my eyes if traveling wouldn't take that long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) -1 I really struggle to see how they're so hard to spot, even on the lowest client settings. You purposely have to sail right into it, within a tile or two of it, to aggro it. Besides, a priest alt of mine with barely 70FS and crappy weapon skill was able to solo one, without magic, so they're really not that hard. It's actually nice to have something a little bit more difficult to kill. Edited December 21, 2014 by Xallo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2014 I'm confused as to why people seem to have different experience from what i had....how can it be that the same mob is for some only aggroing when sailing INTO it, while others aggro it the moment the client makes it visible 20 tiles away?and whats the difference between me with 70 fs, quite high body stats, good maul skill etc. and good armor and weapons, but I'm NOT able to kill it without almost dying myself? while others can fight it in cloth armor and crappy skills? I'm all for challenges on PVE, but I don't understand how those differences in perception of how strong a monster is, can even happen.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I'm confused as to why people seem to have different experience from what i had....how can it be that the same mob is for some only aggroing when sailing INTO it, while others aggro it the moment the client makes it visible 20 tiles away? and whats the difference between me with 70 fs, quite high body stats, good maul skill etc. and good armor and weapons, but I'm NOT able to kill it without almost dying myself? while others can fight it in cloth armor and crappy skills? I'm all for challenges on PVE, but I don't understand how those differences in perception of how strong a monster is, can even happen.... Edited December 22, 2014 by Audrel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2014 -1 I really struggle to see how they're so hard to spot, even on the lowest client settings. You purposely have to sail right into it, within a tile or two of it, to aggro it. Besides, a priest alt of mine with barely 70FS and crappy weapon skill was able to solo one, without magic, so they're really not that hard. It's actually nice to have something a little bit more difficult to kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) I can solo them with ease, too. So can my battery priest, lol. She takes a while to hit, but since the serpents hardly ever hit themselves it just takes time, she will win the fight. I have to sail up to them and actually target to engage them, similar to sharks... perhaps they avoid higher skilled players, but I've never experienced the 20 tile high speed chase after having killed half a dozen or more :/Hell, ive had to chase one to try and get my arrows back before, it ran straight to the server border lol Edited December 24, 2014 by Alyeska Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 sorry sam big -1 thiers gota be monsters for their to be heroes other wise we all get bored and go to chaos and are never seen again just pop a pm my way if you ever run into one ill be more then over joyed to come kill it .....................I do believe I hold the record for fastest solo kill by the way 3 mins 30 secs mag priest rock ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 I was giving up since it was taking forever *rollseyes* Logging started 2014-09-11[15:49:47] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:49:57] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:49:57] Mature sea serpent suddenly goes into a frenzy.[15:49:58] Mature sea serpent seems to target your upper left parts.[15:49:59] Mature sea serpent targets your upper left parts.[15:50:06] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:11] You open yourself to an attack from Mature sea serpent.[15:50:11] You take no real damage from the blow to the chest.[15:50:11] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:15] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:19] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:26] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:30] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:33] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:39] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:43] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[15:50:46] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:52] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:50:58] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:51:01] You open yourself to an attack from Mature sea serpent.[15:51:01] You take no real damage from the blow to the neck.[15:51:02] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:51:05] You open yourself to an attack from Mature sea serpent.[15:51:05] The attack to the left shoulder glances off your armour.[15:51:05] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:51:09] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:51:55] You open yourself to an attack from Mature sea serpent.[15:51:55] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[15:51:55] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:51:59] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:01] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[15:52:04] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:52:08] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:10] You take no real damage from the blow to the left underarm.[15:52:12] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:12] Mature sea serpent seems to target your upper right parts.[15:52:14] Mature sea serpent targets your upper right parts.[15:52:15] You skillfully parry with your longsword.[15:52:15] The attack to the right upper arm glances off your armour.[15:52:16] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:17] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:20] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:21] The attack to the right upper arm glances off your armour.[15:52:24] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:25] The attack to the right shoulder glances off your armour.[15:52:26] You take no real damage from the blow to the right shoulder.[15:52:28] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:32] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:32] You take no real damage from the blow to the chest.[15:52:36] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:37] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:37] You take no real damage from the blow to the right shoulder.[15:52:37] You take no real damage from the blow to the right shoulder.[15:52:39] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:42] Mature sea serpent cowers.[15:52:43] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[15:52:43] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[15:52:47] You miss with the longsword.[15:52:47] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[15:52:48] You safely parry with your longsword.[15:53:26] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:53:30] You miss with the longsword.[15:53:34] You miss with the longsword.[15:53:38] You miss with the longsword.[15:53:42] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the lower body.[15:53:43] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[15:53:46] You miss with the longsword.[15:53:47] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[15:53:55] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:53:59] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:53:59] Mature sea serpent bites Freedom Isles tower guard deadly hard in the right underarm and damages it.[15:54:03] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the chest.[15:54:03] You miss with the longsword.[15:54:06] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[15:54:07] You miss with the longsword.[15:54:11] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[15:54:43] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:54:43] Mature sea serpent headbutts Freedom Isles tower guard extremely hard in the right underarm and hurts it.[15:54:44] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:54:47] You miss with the longsword.[15:54:47] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[15:54:51] You miss with the longsword.[15:54:55] You miss with the longsword.[15:54:59] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:00] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:55:00] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:55:28] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:55:32] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:36] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:37] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:40] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:44] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the lower body.[15:55:48] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:50] Mature sea serpent seems to target your right parts.[15:55:52] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:53] Mature sea serpent targets your right parts.[15:55:53] Mature sea serpent moves in to attack you.[15:55:56] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:57] You miss with the longsword.[15:55:59] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the chest.[15:56:01] Mature sea serpent seems to target your upper left parts.[15:56:03] Mature sea serpent targets your upper left parts.[15:56:24] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:56:28] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:32] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:36] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:37] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:40] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:44] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the chest.[15:56:48] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:52] You miss with the longsword.[15:56:56] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:06] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:57:10] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:10] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:14] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:18] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:18] You try to focus.[15:57:22] Mature sea serpent headbutts Freedom Isles tower guard extremely hard in the top of the back and hurts it.[15:57:22] You balance your feet and your soul.[15:57:23] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:26] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:27] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:30] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:30] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[15:57:33] You try to focus.[15:57:37] You are now focused on the enemy and its every move.[15:57:37] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[15:57:38] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:41] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:41] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[15:57:45] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:47] You try to focus.[15:57:47] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:57:51] You feel lightning inside, quickening your reflexes.[15:57:51] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:51] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:51] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[15:57:54] You miss with the longsword.[15:57:57] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the upper body and slap it.[15:57:58] You try to focus.[15:58:02] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:58:02] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:05] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:07] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:09] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:09] You try to focus.[15:58:13] Your consciousness is lifted to a higher level, making you very attentive.[15:58:13] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:16] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:20] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:24] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:27] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:28] You try to focus.[15:58:32] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:58:32] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:32] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:36] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the lower body.[15:58:39] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:58:40] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:44] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:47] You try to focus.[15:58:51] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:58:51] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:51] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:54] You try to focus.[15:58:58] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:58:58] You miss with the longsword.[15:58:59] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:01] You try to focus.[15:59:05] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:59:05] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:06] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[15:59:07] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:07] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:07] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[15:59:11] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:13] You try to focus.[15:59:17] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[15:59:17] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:19] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:19] Mature sea serpent bites Freedom Isles tower guard deadly hard in the top of the back and damages it.[15:59:22] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:27] You feel lightning inside, quickening your reflexes.[15:59:37] You balance your feet and your soul.[15:59:37] You try to cut a Mature sea serpent.[15:59:41] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the upper body and slap it.[15:59:45] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:47] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[15:59:49] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:53] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:57] You miss with the longsword.[15:59:59] You try to focus.[16:00:03] You are now focused on the enemy and its every move.[16:00:03] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:05] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:00:05] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:00:07] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:09] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:10] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:00:12] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:15] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:00:16] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:20] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:00:20] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:00:24] That move is too advanced for you.[16:00:24] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:27] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:00:28] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:29] You try to focus.[16:00:33] You feel lightning inside, quickening your reflexes.[16:00:33] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:34] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[16:00:36] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:39] You try to focus.[16:00:44] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:00:44] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:46] You try to focus.[16:00:50] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:00:50] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:50] You miss with the longsword.[16:00:50] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[16:00:51] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:00:55] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:00:56] You try to focus.[16:01:00] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:01:00] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:01:03] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:07] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:01:07] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:11] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:01:14] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:18] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:22] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:01:26] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the chest.[16:01:27] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the upper body and slap it.[16:01:30] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:31] You try to focus.[16:01:32] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:01:35] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:01:35] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:36] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:01:38] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:01:42] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:42] You try to focus.[16:01:46] Mature sea serpent headbutts Freedom Isles tower guard deadly hard in the left upper arm and harms it.[16:01:46] Your consciousness is lifted to a higher level, making you very attentive.[16:01:46] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:46] You make a bad move, making you an easy target.[16:01:50] You miss with the longsword.[16:01:50] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the upper body and slap it.[16:01:53] You try to focus.[16:01:57] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:01:57] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:02:01] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:05] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:02:07] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:02:08] You try to focus.[16:02:12] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:02:12] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:13] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:17] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the chest.[16:02:21] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:02:25] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:02:26] You try to focus.[16:02:30] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:02:30] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:30] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:32] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:02:35] You try to focus.[16:02:39] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:02:39] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:40] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:44] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:02:47] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:48] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:50] Freedom Isles tower guard regains her bearings.[16:02:52] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:55] You miss with the longsword.[16:02:57] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:02:59] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:03:02] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:03:03] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:03:07] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:03:07] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the lower body.[16:03:11] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:03:15] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the upper body and slap it.[16:03:19] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:23] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the upper body.[16:03:26] Mature sea serpent bites Freedom Isles tower guard deadly hard in the left upper arm and damages it.[16:03:26] Mature sea serpent moves in to attack you.[16:03:27] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the upper body.[16:03:27] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:03:31] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:32] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:03:34] You try to focus.[16:03:37] You take no real damage from the blow to the chest.[16:03:37] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:03:38] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:03:38] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:38] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:03:42] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:43] You take no real damage from the blow to the right underarm.[16:03:45] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:03:46] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:03:47] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:50] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:50] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:03:51] You barely evade the blow to the stomach.[16:03:51] A mature sea serpent hits the "starshine" with huge force![16:03:54] You miss with the longsword.[16:03:54] The attack to the left underarm glances off your armour.[16:03:57] You skillfully parry with your longsword.[16:03:57] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:03:58] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the upper body.[16:03:59] You try to focus.[16:03:59] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.[16:04:03] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.[16:04:03] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:04:05] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.[16:04:06] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:07] You cut Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the lower body and slap it.[16:04:09] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:10] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:04:13] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:16] You safely parry with your longsword.[16:04:18] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:04:18] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:21] The attack to the left underarm glances off your armour.[16:04:23] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:04:27] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:04:27] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:04:28] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:34] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:34] You take no real damage from the blow to the left underarm.[16:04:37] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.[16:04:38] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:38] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:04:41] The attack to the left hand glances off your armour.[16:04:43] You cut Mature sea serpent deadly hard in the chest and irritate it.[16:04:43] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:04:46] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.[16:04:47] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:47] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:49] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.[16:04:52] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:53] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:04:57] You miss with the longsword.[16:04:57] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:04:58] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:05:00] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.[16:05:02] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:05] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:05:06] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.[16:05:07] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:05:07] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:11] You take no real damage from the blow to the left underarm.[16:05:12] You cut Mature sea serpent deadly hard in the chest and irritate it.[16:05:16] A mature sea serpent hits the "starshine" with huge force![16:05:17] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:17] A mature sea serpent hits the "starshine" with huge force![16:05:22] Mature sea serpent skillfully evades the blow to the upper body.[16:05:27] You pierce Mature sea serpent extremely hard in the chest and slap it.[16:05:27] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:27] You take no real damage from the blow to the left hand.[16:05:31] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:33] You take no real damage from the blow to the stomach.[16:05:35] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:05:36] Your attack glances off Mature sea serpent's armour.[16:05:39] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:05:40] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.[16:05:40] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:05:40] You take no real damage from the blow to the right thigh.[16:05:41] You pierce Mature sea serpent deadly hard in the chest and irritate it.[16:05:42] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:05:46] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:47] Mature sea serpent barely evades the blow to the upper body.[16:05:48] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:05:48] You take no real damage from the blow to the chest.[16:05:49] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.[16:05:51] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:55] You take no real damage from the blow to the left hand.[16:05:56] You miss with the longsword.[16:05:57] You take no real damage from the blow to the right hand.[16:06:01] You miss with the longsword.[16:06:02] You lose some focus.[16:06:02] Mature sea serpent bites you deadly hard in the left underarm and damages it.[16:06:05] You miss with the longsword.[16:06:06] The attack to the left underarm glances off your armour.[16:06:07] You miss with the longsword.[16:06:10] You miss with the longsword.[16:06:11] Mature sea serpent seems to focus.[16:06:15] Mature sea serpent now seems more focused.[16:06:27] You are now focused on the enemy and its every move.[16:06:47] You balance your feet and your soul.[16:07:07] You are not focused on combat. and yeah...beginning of the fight it constantly moved out of range...-.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 high armour rating on them like using a needle to kill a bear go for a 2 hander. or diffent damage type weapon on them med axe med maul or any 2 hander piercing damage dosent have a good effect on most biger mobs dragons avatars serpents and the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) I was giving up since it was taking forever *rollseyes* and yeah...beginning of the fight it constantly moved out of range...-.- You forgot the skill window... Fighting increased by 0.000245. :-P And your reward of 12kg of 20QL meat. Edited December 26, 2014 by Audrel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) First of all, Wurm has really crappy rendering and poor performance with the settings turned up. Some items and creatures till have insane pop-in in the style of Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed Unity. This is mainly source fountains, Valrei missions items, and glimmer/addy boulders, which people would argue are for balance but really just make it quite annoying. Rendering needs a fix, as does performance (in our dreams). Secondly, while I don't play PvE, I feel that PvE is either a misnomer or just a really weak argument. It stands for "player verus environment", which suggests some kind of conflict. What is being suggested with all the non-aggro suggestions is essentially invulnerability to anything that may present a challenge, change, or conflict of any kind. That is not PvE, that is Super Mario's shiny yellow star. Avoiding conflict completely strays from the idea of any game - just think about how boring Skyrim gets when you max your armor rating and have daedric/dragon bone weapons improved ten levels above the first legendary level with 100% fortify restoration and stacked damage enchants with all combat skills at 100. Only higher tier dragons even remotely present any kind of threat at that point, which are easy enough to dragon rend, stun lock, and kill. There's literally no challenge in it whatsoever and it gets really boring. EDIT: That armor/glance and CR seems a bit too much, but they still shouldn't get the nerf bat into oblivion (didn't realize second Elder Scrolls reference until after I typed it, so meh). Edited December 26, 2014 by SotG_is_OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 First of all, Wurm has really crappy rendering and poor performance with the settings turned up. Some items and creatures till have insane pop-in in the style of Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed Unity. This is mainly source fountains, Valrei missions items, and glimmer/addy boulders, which people would argue are for balance but really just make it quite annoying. Rendering needs a fix, as does performance (in our dreams). Secondly, while I don't play PvE, I feel that PvE is either a misnomer or just a really weak argument. It stands for "player verus environment", which suggests some kind of conflict. What is being suggested with all the non-aggro suggestions is essentially invulnerability to anything that may present a challenge, change, or conflict of any kind. That is not PvE, that is Super Mario's shiny yellow star. Avoiding conflict completely strays from the idea of any game - just think about how boring Skyrim gets when you max your armor rating and have daedric/dragon bone weapons improved ten levels above the first legendary level with 100% fortify restoration and stacked damage enchants with all combat skills at 100. Only higher tier dragons even remotely present any kind of threat at that point, which are easy enough to dragon rend, stun lock, and kill. There's literally no challenge in it whatsoever and it gets really boring. EDIT: That armor/glance and CR seems a bit too much, but they still shouldn't get the nerf bat into oblivion (didn't realize second Elder Scrolls reference until after I typed it, so meh). I agree fully, SotG. The mob itself does not need nerfed. The aggro range of the mob and their ability to form a herd maybe do and as you said, their avoid might need a tweak but that would just speed up the miss fest. IF you hit them, they are relatively weak in health. The only challenge is the RNG armor penetration as you saw in that combat log. But more than the serpents, it's the ship combat. Anchoring is a bad idea. It takes too long to pull it up to move and since your feet are nailed to the deck and you need to move, that means circling until you hit that spot where you have a balance with the wind and hopefully a good position to fight from else you swim to fight and hope you don't drown before you can embark again to start a new dance. It's even worse when you have passengers. And with the archery changes, yeah. Not to mention it doesn't seem there are many archers with the skill to kill them that way on Freedom that offer escort services and I have no desire to fight one naked so I can shoot because when your passengers are forced into non-combatant roles, I have to tank too. Also, I don't like sailing so much that I am going to skirt 3 1/2 server borders to bypass 100 tiles with multiple serpents in them because they might hordestomp me from 20 tiles. If there is just one, that's fine. I've said this all before but I think all people see is "nerf serpents" no matter how one tries to explain what the issues are. TL;DR: It's just a combination of stuff that I consider to be bad mechanics working poorly together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2014 You forgot the skill window... Fighting increased by 0.000245. :-P And your reward of 12kg of 20QL meat.IF i wouldnt have given up after making almost no damage after 30 minutes XD even though guards were hitting it also...*sigh* high armour rating on them like using a needle to kill a bear go for a 2 hander. or diffent damage type weapon on them med axe med maul or any 2 hander piercing damage dosent have a good effect on most biger mobs dragons avatars serpents and the rest.and yeah, couldn't find my other log, I'm usually using a large maul , but those results weren't much better either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
