Andru

Lol Reese would have loved to have known this before starting out but it's a bit late for me now.

4 days of these losers constantly ###### around here wondering if GMs will enforce rules and issue a ban

Nydogg still here literally driving cart on top of me, following me around. I've asked them repeatedly to ###### off

Yeah and it's still going on. They're cutting down sprouts, coming by my house and standing there. Cutting down all the trees on perim so i have to expand deed, created a mine just outside of deed.. etc. It's like every single day, like they're obsessed with me.. So much so I gave a negative review just now.

Do the gms make the roads? Or is paving done in a way that is faster than packing?

thank you for the nice post. i listened to the Gm and deeded the area so i have a cool spot to forest. It's all good now. Added them to ignore, finished the fence. Washed hands of it all. This post merely started as a thought just to discuss what people thought regarding land hoarding, but after the post went down it literally happened exactly in game. Right now I am having fun away from that area with a new guy i met doing digging jobs, exploring, and now we're getting the cart packed up to move to the next area... like migrant laborers.

I was there, actively trying to help them finish the road they couldn't even pave, because they built it in perimeter. After they insulted me repeatedly, I asked them to please leave me alone, then he walked over to where my shack was, and plopped a deed and placed it, covering all of the usable area, including the small path i was making. The next deed owner I was trying to be considerate to myself, by NOT placing a deed, because I knew he used that forest, told me he absolutely would not provide them access to make a road there. I talked with the GMs and actively worked to try and help them find another path for their road, and we found one to the side into tundra, but again, even that wouldn't have mattered. they would have gotten further but Lance said he absolutely would not be providing them access. After all this, they came back and cut down the oak i was trying to protect while i was building a fence around it, and left a cross saying "RIP Oak" Then continued to insult me, and the GMs handling of the event in local chat.

Oh wow. Nice. What kind of drops do they have?

This isn't what I'm referring to, I understand what you're saying. What I'm referring to is if you started work, and someone logs an alt and places a deed directly on what you have planned... not because they want the spot, but specifically to create a worse experience for you. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. People intentionally destroying your hard work for no reason other than to create a negative experience for the community. I never said I expect people to actually be considerate or to think of others that use an area, that would be absolutely absurd! To be considerate to your other players? To maybe think about sizing down your deed 1 square and leaving the last bit as perimeter so a new player could maybe try to make a 1x1 shack with the trees in a completely covered area!? God forbid you think maybe about a new player, or other players when you do something in a sandbox! There's definitely a point where it's going beyond normal playing and is directly impacting the experience of others.

I'm not saying to ban or take enforcement action against everyone with an alt hogging land but lets be honest a lot of the time it isn't done in a way that is beneficial to the community. There ARE players who do it in a positive way, like expand perimeter and allow building on it so people can actually play the game but there is absolutely a subset of the population that is doing it intentionally to ruin the experience of other players

Whether or not you can enforce it, it doesn't change that it falls within the purviews of the technical explanation of what griefing is. 1 person has as much of a right to take all of the plots and ruin the experience for new players? Isn't the whole reason you are opening cadence by you guys own words because there is no land available and that is the biggest complaint in the reviews? Shouldn't all players have a right to enjoy the game or have a piece of land?

The dev is here actually.. hang on. Man this is so upsetting

I was actually having fun and excited to play Wurm for the long term. I bought some silver and was investing into the community and economy, but it is obvious that this kind of thing is the norm. No concern for new players or other player styles, placing deeds to block access and farming for players, especially new players.

No i'm sorry but it is griefing. Not every player wants to play the exact same way. Even right now "Felinesalome" and his alts just dropped a deed right next to my hut to cut down trees and kill the bears. They are absolutely abusing this mechanics just because they are rich and don't care about wasting money to ruin the experience for other players.

the economy being like this actually helps new players? I mean i've spent more than I've made since I wanted a sailboat but there's been opportunities to sell a lot of things that even a new guy like me could gather. Also I've bought things low and sold them high to people that wanted them quickly. Is a healthy competitive economy an indication of a games decline...? No i think not.

So I've come to realize that a lot of people ... almost compulsively make alts. I've been in two villages so far and it's pretty wild how many alts some of these people had... and while I look down upon it since I view it as unimmersive for both that person and others playing with them, it's still just whatever. Now what I heard in the chat though, and what I guess occurs a lot, is people making alts just to deed areas. So I was just wondering, if the biggest complaint the devs saw in their negative reviews and all that, is that there isn't enough land to claim... and someone is actively making alts just to hog more land (that they aren't even using) with deeds, wouldn't that technically be griefing? If you can't find an area to build, and all the land is claimed so you can't use it or play, isn't that unwanted distress? It just leads to a lot of claimed land with no players on it.. since no one can use it. Just a thought.

I just planted 100 pines near Overture for any new guys that come in a couple weeks.

hey some of the chatter about this in game was that it was possible to sail to it from Harmony or Melody. Is this the case? I think the guy on that twitch stream linked in game said something about that as well? It would be cool if us new guys just starting out could check it out. Thanks

hi, hoping this is your in game character name. sending now.

I put my logs in a crate.. logged off and back on, and now they list .4 QL on my previously 1 QL logs. The higher quality logs are also lower. The minimum QL is 1 on logs to my understanding, so I have no clue how this has occurred. When crafting spindles with the ql .4 logs, i receive QL 1 Spindles.