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Okay, thank you. Additionally - does sweetspotting ruin your parent skills and potentially characteristics and even your entire account? I have never and will never sweetspot (honestly I barely even play anymore) but I just prefer to understand ###### even if it has no relation to me personally. Not asking you in particular Lisimba, just querying the populace. Many thanks.

I would like it if wetas were not breedable, and very rare and only obtainable through exploration. You get one, it lives, it dies, and then you have to get another one. Through exploration. Edit: So also you can't care for it.

What the hell is going on here? If somebody could summarize this thread with minimal to no snark they'd be my hero. Actually any amount of snark is fine as long as purely informational content is included alongside. Purely informational meaning explain like I'm 5.

I can't say I haven't had this thought, mainly because it's very hard to come up with any other explanation of why stuff like this doesn't get fixed. Especially since it's not the first time the issue has come up--I also suggested it back in May 2021: It seems like it would be such a quick and easy fix to make--am I wrong about that? Is there more to it than just making a simple edit to a line of text? The only other reason I can think of why it hasn't been done is just that it's not considered at all important, to the point where maybe it's just not something the devs are even aware of perhaps? Either way, it's a really bad look. Practically the first thing new players see is blatant misinformation. And (as far as I can fathom) the reason for this is either: a) Nobody cares enough to correct the misinformation or b) The misinformation is intentionally left uncorrected in order to advance a shady hidden agenda. I dunno, is there any other potential explanation for this that I haven't thought of? Seriously asking.

Me too. And Wurm hasn't seen much of my wallet lately.

Me! I am totally with you. Jackal was amazing. Starting from scratch, with absolutely nothing; wandering around foraging and rummaging for the most basic materials to make crude tools (finding a branch or a rock shard was like winning the lottery); everyone crowding around the forges, crafting armor and tools and weapons; setting off into the wild on foot...the sense of adventure was one of the most compelling and memorable experiences I've had in this game or any other (with the only real competitor being the launch of NFI). I miss Wetas the most. They were so much fun to ride, and oddly endearing despite the fact that they were basically just enormous bugs. In addition to being able to climb 50 slope, I recall them being exceptionally fast, but the wiki page does not mention this...am I just imagining things? Anyway, if we can't do Jackal again, I wish they'd at least consider bringing wetas to the current servers. Seems like such a sad waste of an existing asset. For those unfamiliar, this is more or less what the "starting from scratch" experience was on Jackal: https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Guides:Starting_with_Nothing ) Here is some general info on Jackal and the new mobs and resources we found there: https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Jackal Info on wetas (with a pic): https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Weta Maybe the devs also ended up thinking "why bother" since all anyone could do was ###### and whine about Jackal while it was actually going on. The prospect of going through all of that again may perhaps be anti-motivational. Except we didn't get a starter set on Jackal. And if they do ever reboot it, I sincerely hope that aspect won't change. There is not much point to Jackal if they're going to just hand us everything for free like we're a bunch of incompetent dunces. We might as well just stay on Wurm. In the beginning only a few people could get pelts so yes, they were expensive, which frankly is as it should be. You had to WORK to get a pelt early on. You had to be willing to take risks. Otherwise you had to be willing to pay, or you had to get by without one. And the longer you went without, the sweeter the moment was when you finally snagged one on your own. This all seems right to me. Prices dropped as time went on until eventually there was basically no market for them at all, IIRC. The allure of Jackal, for me, was that it was more challenging, dangerous, and difficult than my ultra-comfortable, ho-hum life on Wurm, at least at first. Six months was almost too long, because by that point everyone was established enough that the experience wasn't that different from regular WO. So yeah - Jackal was awesome. Hope they bring it back but I'm not holding my breath.

IIRC, a few years ago there was some talk about putting something like this together, but it fell by the wayside for one reason or another. At this point it is unlikely to happen, as the focus seems to have shifted almost entirely to attracting and retaining new players. Us old players are probably not going to be much of a priority, at least for the foreseeable future.

So maybe we can just ignore the community ratings and base our opinions on what the person has actually said, rather than on some dumbass number generated by random people clicking stuff. And if we disagree with someone or think they're a bully, we can use our words to say why. This is how the world used to work all the time, long long ago. It was glorious.

Okay, I appreciate the response. I hope that if/when new software is considered, this issue will be part of the process. Many thanks.

Concerns yes, experiences no (not counting this thread lol). See my post above on how to avoid having to include huge text blocks in your post without editing the actual quote itself. I'm writing this post using that technique. Maybe, maybe not. I think that those among us who read threads carefully tend to assume that everyone else does the same. But there are probably people who don't thoroughly comb through every single post, and could entirely miss any unmasking-of-vile that goes on. I have no problem if someone summarizes/paraphrases what they think (and/or want others to think) I've said, as long as it's clear it's not what I ACTUALLY said. Also I'm not looking for a rule on this issue. In my ideal world, it's technically possible to make quotes un-alterable, and someone in authority puts that into effect. Strangely, I am certain none of this will ever happen. But I dunno, sometimes I feel like I just have to say a thing for the record. Can't help myself.

Even if decency is common, it's never universal, here or anywhere.

You can quote a portion of a larger text block by selecting only that portion. A popup with a "Quote selection" button will appear. You may need to do this more than once if you need to quote more than one part of the larger block, which can be a bit of a PITA, but imo it would be worth it if it meant that misquoting others would no longer be a thing.

Ketchup is highly underrated and unfairly maligned. Yeah I said it.

We shouldn't be able to misrepresent what someone else has said by changing quoted material in forum posts. Some may say it's "obvious" that the quoted writer didn't actually say the fake quote, but it's clear that this is not always the case. Some readers have less of an ear for irony and sarcasm than others. And even a sophisticated reader who is only casually browsing a thread might end up misinterpreting a misquote and wrongly attributing it to the OP. But even in the most seemingly "obvious" or "innocent" of cases, the simple fact is that nobody should be able to put words in someone else's mouth, period. Not to mention that the ability to misquote could potentially be used as a destructive tool by those with malicious intent. --- (I'm guessing this may not be the right forum for this suggestion, but I couldn't find a better one. Please reposition the post if necessary.)

I strongly agree with OP here. Not really going to say much more about it, because I don't think doing so would change the outcome. This train appears to have left the station for good. It's just a rather large disappointment to me to see the game changing in this way, and I had to say at least that.