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  3. Posted

    9 minutes ago, Retrograde said:

    I checked this out, and it's true, you're fishing in deep water so it's making it too deep for the net things. I found a shallower flat area and started getting normal fish. Think a natural beach rather than man made dropoff 

     

     

    I see. Did you find the beach somewhere around Fort Buda?

  4. Posted

    42 minutes ago, Retrograde said:

    Yeah clams are special items that can contain pearls. 

     

    what's your event log of not catching anything? were you in shallow water? where were you standing? 

    The entire event log is in the two paste bins. I was standing on the shore. I was selecting "fish" on the first available tile that it's not saying to me that it's too shallow (you can actually see in the event logs that I'm trying to adjust that).

  5. Posted · Edited by SasnycoN
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    48 minutes ago, Retrograde said:

    Are you not catching any other fish? 

     

     

    No. All information is there. I only forgot the mention that I was fishing at the sea shore. 4 clams the first time (plus one rare) and 1 clam the second time. Not a single fish. It took me a long time but I managed to catch 2 fish with a spear after the first session (or before that I do not remember anymore). The 2 fish were actually smaller than the clams by the way :D. 

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    22 hours ago, Retrograde said:

    [16:21:54] You create a fishing net.

    [16:21:32] Cloth tailoring increased by 0.1171 to 2.2570

     

    Wish me luck

     

    [16:22:53] You throw out the net and start slowly pulling it in, hoping to catch some small fish.

    [16:23:10] You catch a perch in the fishing net.

    [16:23:40] You catch a perch in the fishing net.

    Not a bad first haul, second time

    [16:24:06] You throw out the net and start slowly pulling it in, hoping to catch some small fish.

    [16:24:12] You catch a perch in the fishing net.

    [16:24:39] You catch a perch in the fishing net.

    [16:24:51] You catch a sardine in the fishing net.

    [16:24:51] Fishing increased by 0.5193 to 1.5193

     

     

    That's with 1 fishing and a 13ql net. Yes it's not heaps, perch are small and you won't be having giant fish to harvest, but it's quite acceptable to do as a brand new player.

    I don't know how did you manage to catch those.

     

    I have 7.59ql net and ~8 skill in fishing. I have tried to fish with the net in 2 session, one hour each. During this sessions I changed the fishing spot from time to time just in case (I don't know if this actually matters). I was fishing at the sea shore in the entire time.

     

    The first time I have managed to catch 4 clams in one hour (and a rare one which I can't sac. yet because of my low Faith). Half of them actually give me meat. I'm sure that this is not enough food to cover one hour. Here is the log from the first session: https://pastebin.com/T9kxfUKd

     

    The second time I have decided to check my hunger first and it was 60 when I started fishing. In one hour I manage to catch only one clam that give me a pearl. My hunger dropped by ~30 during this time. Good thing that I can't starve to death in Wurm. I also gained 0 skill points. Here is the log from the second session: https://pastebin.com/4fzYTVdg

     

    I plan to make 2 more sessions with the spear and will paste the logs again.

     

    So far I can't see how can I, as a new player feed my self with average of 1 clam per hour, which might or might not actually give me meat!

  7. Posted · Edited by SasnycoN

     

    8 minutes ago, Beanbag said:

     

    The forums are a vocal minority of players. No dev team worth a spit actually bases a roadmap purely on forum feedback, particularly when that feedback is often rabid and toxic.

     

     

    Citation needed. 

    On 12/18/2018 at 5:29 PM, nicedreams said:

     

    They took a dumb system and made it more logical.  I'm fine with that.  I like fishing in real life and appreciate the complexity of the system.  Haven't caught anything yet either, but we'll see what the future holds.  My fishing skill is only 21 and that probably matters more now.

      Here is one (look for more in the comments if you like). I'm also watching the WO streams and as we know they are few, but whatever someone there makes an opinion regarding the new fishing patch they all say that they like the things that I like, but they actually never got fishing by themselves.

  8. Posted · Edited by SasnycoN
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    3 hours ago, Retrograde said:

    A basic fishing rod still exists, and still just uses a line and a hook, with options for bait. This means that new players can easily fish at low skill and still have the same level of interactivity, gating the interactive aspects of it arent conducive to helping new players learn fishing.

     

    The customer is not always right, and that argument does not carry any weight. 

     

    As for the issues with catching delays that could be tweaked a little, bugs with damage and tackle boxes will be addressed, like every update with major features, there's usually a period of adjustment. 

    Do I still need to click on the "Basic fishing rod"? Because if I do, it's exactly the same as the other one. I LOVE the new fishing system when it comes to the new fishing methods (net, spear, the new multi part fishing rod with the floats and baits), skills, crafting, preparation for the actual fishing, The Tackle Box, keep nets etc. Everything is just great  for me! I like the complexity there. But when it comes to fishing it self I HATE it. I'm fishing in RL and I never broke a Fishing Pole in my life. To spend several hours imiping a rod and line, and everything just to brake after the 4th fishing attempt (as another player reported) it's more than frustrating. Also regarding the fishing with the Fishing Pole it self - I think that I'm doing everything right and as you explained it, but I'm ending in the exactly the same situation as Hailian below. I see that some of the devs are WoW players and like that system in there, but this clicking on the float it's not something that works in Wurm and that it's liked by most of the players (as we can see from the poll). And Actually most of the players that said here that they like the new system, never ended actually fishing themselves in Wurm. after the new patch.

     

    7 hours ago, Hailiah said:

     

    How exactly?

     

    https://imgur.com/Ex4BmOc

    Exactly my experience! Didn't catch single thing!

  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, Oblivionnreaver said:

    most likely hasn't spawned yet, most things gathered either have a time restriction (like how foraged tiles can take a day or two to replenish) or it'd be on tree age growth, its most likely on one of these systems, which one is yet to be worked out.

    This mechanics are the issue. The bush is basically made out of twigs. We should be able to harvest twigs which will add dmg to the bush until it disappears completely. The worms should also not depend on spawn. Ground is full of worms in RL and they are not on the ground but in it (or beneath the stones). They should be optained by digging and you should have some % chance to find one (30-50% for example). Or be searching beneath a stone if there is one spowned on the tile.

  10. Posted

    24 minutes ago, nicedreams said:

    Guessing no one fishes in real life except community ponds.

    While you was on a fishing trips, how many twigs do the bushes had? Because in wurm you can check every bush in 100x100 tile range and do not find a single twig in the bush. Super realistic huh. Same with the worms (wurms). Also when you fish and the fish baits out of how many times you do manage to hook it? My girlfriend manages to hook a fish at least 80% of the time when she tries fishing (with float) for a very first time.


    Because I'm fishing in real life (lakes and rivers) and I can tell you that neither the bushes nor the fish baiting works like that.

     

    The system is over complicated. And I'm not talking about the crafting. I like that. But the whole need to constantly stare at the monitor and click the float in 3D space while selecting a 2D tile and fail 100 out of 100 times. Try to fish in Wurm not only craft your pole and when you actually catch something then tell me how good it is.

  11. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Brash_Endeavors said:

    I hope fishing is something new players can still do to feed themselves. I am a bit worried about level 70 & 90 players catching nothing, as that likely means fishing is no longer a viable source of food for new players, and instead is a complex pastime for the highest level players.

     

    It used to be some work to keep yourself fed as a newbie, but sounds like this ratchets up the difficulty by a huge amount. 

     

     

    There is no way new player can rely on fishing for constant food source. I'm a new player, playing for a week now. Until this patch I was able to catch enough fish to fed myself. I catch nothing since the last patch.

  12. Posted · Edited by SasnycoN

    23 minutes ago, nicedreams said:

    They took a dumb system and made it more logical.  I'm fine with that.  I like fishing in real life and appreciate the complexity of the system.  Haven't caught anything yet either, but we'll see what the future holds.  My fishing skill is only 21 and that probably matters more now.

    So if we want it like in RL why do we need to depend on clicking half the time and skill the rest. Let's remove the skills and just click to catch the fish, right lick to start coil the line, move the mouse left and right to fight the fish and if we do not to it at the correct time and order to loose the fish. Also in real life there is almost no way to lose a small fish. There should be a balance between realism and convenience. If I spend more time in a game to catch a simple fish than I spend in RL this is too much!

     

    21 minutes ago, Budzilla said:

     

    That's exactly what the fishing pole is for. Requires nothing but a line and hook.

    I didn't manage to use my fishing pole. It asked me to transform it to the new pole which uses all this floats and baits and line and etc.

  13. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Alkhadias said:

    Dunno. Never been interested in fishing, so probably I won't check it out anytime soon. I just hope that my old rod works still the same as used to.

    You can right click on it and made it compatible with the new system.

     

    18 minutes ago, KyleBooze said:

    I tried to fish from a boat, but it said I needed a float and bait, so I gave up... seems overly complicated and unnecessary.

    You can find twigs in the bushes of feathers from chickens as floats and put them in the fishing pole (it works like a container). If you have an old pole you can transform it with right click to the new one. For bait you can use a lot of things. The easy one is choped cheese or wurms from the ground.

  14. Posted · Edited by SasnycoN

    For the last 2 days I didn't manage to catch a thing. I know that I need to click on the float once the fish start nibbling on the bite etc. but it does nothing. I know that my skills are low but I hoped that for that time I will catch at least 1 fish (in comparison before the patch I've managed to easily catch bunch of fish in no time.) The net is the same. My neighbor tried to fish 30 minutes with it, with semi good skills and net on 25QL and again didn't catch a thing.

     

    So till now we had and easy fishing system and a lot of players with very good skills on fishing now, and on the other side now we have super messy and unnecessary hard fishing system which will not allow you to raise a single 0. point for 2 days.

     

    I like the part that we can fish with spears and with nets now, and the new multi-part fishing pole system (even that id doesn't fits perfectly in Wurm). I like how we need float and bait now, and all this little things to store your fish, looking for bait and float etc. However this clicking thing on the float like in World Of Warcraft is excessive.