Ronnie
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oOOPH, I think Wurm just shot itself in the head.... RMT is a large part that kept wurm alive to this day. The steam release is going to fail because of the graphics. The player base from WU couldn't care less about a WO steam release. The games going to have mostly negative because next to no one is going to want to spend 90% of their MMO game standing in one spot trying get to skills up enough to make basic tools and a 3x3 shack. If that was the case there would be a lot of players from steam playing the online servers instead of the exp increased WU servers. Lets be real, WU is 1% from being mixed reviewed on steam as is plus WU you guys say it is in beta. why after 14 years change one of the core attractions of the game that makes it stick out?
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we also have to remember, if 10,000 of that 300,000+ WU owners decide to try out the steam release for the online server(s) but don't sub because it's "free to play" and the server lags or disconnects a lot. The games steam rating will drop real fast and be very hard to recover as over time there will always be players that join and down vote because it was to hard for them to understand or stick with. So unless the steams server is going to be far stronger then any of the servers live now. Seeing as one server can not handle 300 players on at a time, WO is not ready for steam.
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8 hours ago, Wilczan said:Worst case scenario:
If Steam version fail, and investors decide to shut it down, how it gonna affect WO version? WO go down too, or will be independent like WU?
PRETTY much a good chance, unless Rolf was able work out being able to hold full rights to Wurm but the sponsor gets xx% for so many years with contract renewal options. But I am sure the rights were sold out right when the sponsor worked out the agreement. Steam most likely is the last attempt to keep wurm alive, as rolf said "Wurm unlimited sales dwindled". In the link https://steamdb.info/app/366220/graphs/ you can see somewhere between 200k-500k copies of wurm unlimited was sold worldwide, I think steam takes a 25-30% cut of the selling price which you can see on the price tab what the game is selling for on the allowed market regions. No clue what cut the owning company is taking or putting back into wurm but even with 35% left for Rolf to use on top of what wurm online is making would have been enough for major overhauls on the game with how small the dev team has been.
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I'm surprised wurm hasn't been revamped engine wise yet... talk of changing the combat system over 5years ago and it is still the same today. Wasn't there a Unity project going at some point to convert the game over to a new client/system? Sure opening a new unconnected server brings in some new cash flow but that's only a temp fix for today's problem. Most of the players left Wurm due to how stale it gets after 5months of playing. Combats a chore, epic next to died due to lack of upgrading existing systems. Sure adding a few things is nice but never updating current systems doesn't keep new or returning players for very long after the first "Fresh add on check" most content add ons bring.
The game is 13 years old with very little rework on its systems. It's time to upgrade the game instead of adding fluff every few months. Old MMO's that are great are dying off because they never update the system/engine but keep on adding small almost pointless things when it comes to the real problem of why the player base is decreasing with little to no regain.
The combat system doesn't have to be a top of the line action system but something that is more then just standing in range of a target would do wonders. Look at games like Diablo, Albion, and Runescape. Their combat system isn't that grand but it is far better than what wurm has to offer. The default first person system of Unity or any other engine would be far greater then what wurm has now. Just like Mortal online, Minecraft, and Morrowind Elder scrolls 3 are rather basic first person systems but attracts players.
The burst of income from WU and having a sponsor should have been more then enough to cover the man power needed to change the games engine. Yes Unity is C++ or JavaScript depending on the client you use both support C# which is a very easy to learn for Java coders. also seeing as Wurm has a small dev team from the start it wouldn't have been a huge deal to replace programmers and shift jobs of the replaced member(s) to a different part of the games development. From what can be seen from the player side, there has been such a misuse of income that I personally am surprised Wurm is still online. I loved playing the game when I first joined back in 2007 to 2016 and I am still to this day comparing other openworld sandbox games to yours. However the game play is so stale and outdated opening a new server won't fix long term cash flow for you guys like upgrading and polishing the game would have if you would of figured that out years ago when most of the player base was asking you guys too.
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Don't get me wrong, I love what wurm was before the demi god/ player god system was patched in. I keep hoping to find something close to those days and always check back to see what's changed. But all I keep seeing is "We can't do this or that" when you could, however it would take a good chunk of manpower and time. When I see that a number of the recent patches since I left in 2017/ early 2018 is causing dated players to leave, those that have spent large amounts of time playing weekly for years. I think instead of adding new things that somehow ends up breaking other parts of the game for a point of time and start revamping the games structure, fix those loose ends, rebalance, or bug fix for a while before trying to push out that next chapter of the game or quality of life that affects a number of random things it wasn't meant too.
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18 hours ago, Retrograde said:It's not the 1k players on the same server that hurts Xanadu, it's the fact the MMO is a living, breathing world around it.
The server has to keep track of approximately 67 million tiles, 150,000 animals, over 10 million items that each decay, cook, produce in the world around them.
There's a lot going on on any server, and the sheer size of xanadu simply increases that exponentially.
We've done a lot of work refining how it works, it's got zero to do with strengthening a database or server end functions. It's simply how much is going on at any given second.
However there are ways to work around that by breaking down the map into linked nodes but one world like a lot of other single world MMO's have done to support similar system stress. So instead of the server being loaded in one chunk by one processor, you can have the map in sizeable chunks that can be ran and offlined when no one is within X range of that node/server chunk. Allowing smarter and less server stress with a larger player base on one map.
There are open world games that have over 300k mobs for players to kill, 20-100k players on one server at a time. That could be killings said mobs, other players, taking part in some more of guild/race versus guild/race warfare, gathering, and crafting all at the same time on one map. Sure they are not watching 67million tiles, most of which are never changed or goes weeks to months before being changed again.
Nodes or open world slicing has been a popular thing in MMO's and solo player games since around 2012.
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Honestly, an MMO that's almost 13 years old unable to support 1k players on the same server is pretty sad.
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28 minutes ago, solmark said:Have you ever spent any time on Xanadu?
I've spent a lot of time on Xanadu and was there when it released, instead of spending the resources hosting so many other servers put it all into one server for a change. FINALLY strengthen the database and server end functions to handle it like they've said they'll do time and time again.
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Why not just make one mega server/map that has PvE starter islands and the rest PvP? That way players are able to enjoy both play styles on the same skill set, it's done on WU servers so I know WO devs are able to do it, no more BS like they gave us 6 years ago about how it can't be done. Get the 500-800 players on one map instead of 12
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Bump, still up for sale
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Just now, Yldrania said:Ya it's working now!
Awesome thank you.
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13 minutes ago, Yldrania said:The images in your post are not working.
Thank you for letting me know, I added the images links at the end, mine letting me know if those work for you?
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10 hours ago, Eleraan said:Seems like a lot of deeds for sale lately! GL with your sale.
Thanks, I've noticed myself. Although I'm not leaving wurm just moving to another location.
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Still up for sale
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Selling my deed 57 x 22 at H12 Xanadu asking for 25s
Has 6s in coffer
Water front connected to outer waters
[23:27:12] Courier has been cast on it, so it seems to be possessed by something. [98]
Clay on deed
Mountain right behind it that has iron and silver
6 oak trees on deed a number more along the outside
8 bsb's // 2 fsb's // 2 forges // 6 ovens // 25+ street lamps on deed
Close hunting grounds
Deeds been in place since server's opening day
Comment below or PM Shuouma ingame if interested
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So what project will the staff be working on then? Is it another sandbox style game?
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Maybe you should lock up your things. Its your own fault someone was able to come by and take what they want.
There's locks and house settings for a reason, use part of the game to protect yourself just like players will use part of the game to pick up items.
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Sale complete, can close thread
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Are you on Xanadu? other wise CoD a 20 and 10 silver coin to Shuouma and once I see it in the mail I will send payment to your paypal.
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bump
Still looking, comment here if you're selling
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Looking to buy 20Silver coins 1E per silver, might buy up to 30silver.Ingame name Shuouma on Xanadu
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Thank you
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-1 the only reason ppl are selling powder at 2s is because you get one for free each time you sub your account from the servers shop(pay euro's for account time)
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+1 its to easy now to enchant items with little risk
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Posted · Edited by Ronnie
Pretty much Rolf offered us years ago when the "combat change" but has better graphics and one large server that will take hours to cross by foot. Just started playing it myself not to long ago and found it to be a good replacement for my Wurm craving, you can dig up the ground, level a mountain, or make an island which was claimed that couldn't be done on other formats by the staff here. Plus it's free on steam with no sub to unlock skill cap!