Iberis

I may not presently live on Chaos but that does not mean I do not travel there or have intentions to return. I think anyone who has the best interests of the server in mind and wishes to make suggestions to try to benefit the server (not trolling) should post and have their say. I also know that I am not the only one that shares this viewpoint. Many of the points I've mentioned have been discussed just this morning on discord and again many months ago when we first thought this update had happen. Whereami, no the mine doors are not put into the walls. They are put on another slope beneath them. Just using Sarnath as an example - had 300 slope rock wall around the lower portion of the token pit with a 40 slope rock slope at the base for mine doors... rock is far better than dirt because with dirt you just need to dig it down. With rock you have to clear all the dirt off all the neighbouring tiles before even tampering with the rock in the first place. It forces most enemies to climb the wall or find ways to ramp over it from the outside at least. I think the main point I'm making here is that making changes to how terraforming works is a bit too late on an old server like Chaos. It's going to make so many areas untouchable, unfixable. Griefing is possible now which cannot be fixed. Raiding will be harder and shawv is right. A new group on chaos isn't really great idea i guess right now (a merge would be better) ... if that group couldn't join any exisiting group for whatever reason then surely having more players on chaos is better then not having them at all. Why take away options of getting Chaos more population... At this point terraform changes should really be released on a fresh map for the sake of fairness and balance. Everyone seemed happy with the way terraforming was on Chaos, there really was no need to change it.

I agree they were shoddy mechanics, but I think a fix at this point is creating a huge imbalance. I agree if they want this to be intended it shouldn't be on a map already heavily terraformed but something fresh instead. What is has created now is a map where vast areas of the land and peoples own deeds can no longer be terraformed. People could say; just make a fresh deed. Those deeds will never be as well built as any active deeds. Also most ruins are built on stratgeic locations. LoA picked the ruins of HAP to turn into Hellsgate because it was a chokepoint. Avarga is a good deed location because it was again a choke point, same with scale collection agency. Then you have deeds around hota, built there with the intention of being hota deeds. You'll find very few areas of untouched land on Chaos where you can drop a fresh brand new deed that has a strategic purpose. When we deed over the ruins of HAP the token pit and walls were not even flat. The ruins were from back in the day when buildings were not even required to be flat. It took a lot of work to fix that token pit and walls so we could even build a token house and longhouses on the walls. If we go back a year and this update happened - the kingdom of LoA would have never have been founded. While Chaos might not be the most active right now, this change is really pushing away any possibility of a new group deciding to form on the map. A huge nerf to any new groups and a huge buff to any estbalished group. I'm not really too fussed how the matter is addressed but something needs to happen to allow terraform to continue the way it has been for over ten years on this map.

While I have not confirmed first hand whether or not this is true I have been reading on the discord that there was a recent fix which will now have a large impact on Chaos. I realise this thread may confuse many players who are not (or have never been) part of the Chaos or PVP community so I'll try to explain for everyone. On Chaos you can only mine slopes 1x your skill level. On freedom this is 3x allowing you to create up to 300 slope tile borders in the rock layer if you are lucky enough to have 100 mining. On Chaos it is 100 slope maximum with regular mining. Yet this very old server despite this I would go as far as to say there probably isn't an active deed on Chaos without a rock slope somewhere on the deed that is more than 100 slope. Whether that is because they have 300 slope token pits or perhaps giant trenches. Dirt walls can be dug down - that is why the best deeds are carved into the rock layer. You cannot dig down rock. Over ten years Chaos has been used as a pvp server and now the map is littered with ruins of deeds with pits and trenches not to mention some amazingly solid capital sized deeds still active today. How were players for all these years able to create these deeds if they can only mine 100 slope maximum? Two methods are used to shape the rock layer past 100 slope and that was Mag mining (the process of opening a tunnel and then strongwalling it closed again) and shuffle mining (or run mining). Shuffle mining is where you start the mining action a tile back on the top of the slope then move half a tile forward allowing the action to complete. Any active player on chaos knew about this mechanic and it became more widely used after the mine door update that would level the upper tile border. Well firstly that levelling automatically of the upper tile border might make things look neater on pve servers and allowed the wonderful mine door graphics to work correctly when a minedoor was placed on them. But it added new complications to strongwall mining on Chaos. Fortunately we could still use shuffle mining so even if things might take a little bit longer to build a token pit or flatten an area of rock the point is that it could still be fixed eventually. Now the point I am trying to make here is that shuffle mining has been removed from the game. I really do believe this is going to have massive knock on effects which might not really change much on Chaos now - but it will certainly kill it's future. While strongwall mining can still be done providing there are no mistakes and the rock slope flows downhill and in your favour - you can still kind of do some deed building. But if you wanted to build a capital or strong deed from scratch you will have absolutely no hope. 90% of new deeds on Chaos are built over the ruins of old deeds. Most ruins are either griefed and damaged from when they were disbanded (or from looters since the disband), were poorly built and need improving or simply unfinished. How on earth are players meant to turn these ruins and fix them if they cannot shape the rock layers? They will have rock slopes that they literally cannot touch or do anything with. The update will now prevent any new groups or kingdoms forming on Chaos as they will be able to build or create from ruins a deed that will be able to compete with the deeds that present active kingdoms own. It will also make gameplay on Chaos stale (more so then things have been with the lack of a playerbase). No need deeds. Doing things like flipping across to the other side of the map is now ruled out. Basically people are stuck with the deeds they have now or if they want a new one will have to settle with something that won't be as good. Also what is to stop the enemy from using this new change to grief other kingdoms? Someone could strongwall 100+ slopes around enemy deeds and if they cannot be flattened and fixed... well flat land is required for longhouse or farms or even access. You could really mess up an enemy deed if you wanted and they now have absolutely no way of fixing the damage done. My last reason as to why this is a bad change is due to raiding. While rock walls are way harder to breach it is not impossible. Enemies can still mine ramps into the rock. I've seen one group bring down one corner of a rock wall so that when it was rebuilt with dirt they could repeat raid more easily. Changing the rock layer of an enemy deed is required for raiding and raiding is already hard enough as it is. Removing the ability to touch or terraform the rock layer of some of the largest deeds on Chaos now makes them unraidable. A huge buff that makes raiding utterly pointless. Now I realise that the fix was done because Chaos had always been intended to be a server where the rock layer was only carved into 100 deep, but ten years later you cannot change the deedbuilding/terraforming mechanics now at least not without another solutation. A change to terraforming should be implimented on a fresh new map - not one where every deed and every ruin now has slopes that can no longer be fixed or touched. My suggestion therefore is that this fix gets reversed and that the shuffle mining mechanic gets put into wurmpedia with it's on page. Let it become public knowledge and continue to allow deed building and raiding to continue on as normal. My second suggestion if the first is not accepted is to allow 3x mining on Chaos like it is on freedom. That way those with high mining skill can still fix the rock layer just like those with high digging can fix the dirt walls. It will give an extra purpose to having high mining skill (since with runed pickaxes going past 90 these days isn't really a big deal). Anyway thank you all for reading sorry it was such a long post. I realised I'm currently not a Chaos player but deed building on Chaos was perhaps my favourite thing in this entire game. It is something I am passionate about.

I know I said it twice on the post but I will remind people one more time. Send your offers please.

Yup, will cod it to you now. Got it from a rift - hasn't been used.

All bloods, rift mats and statue fragments sold!

Having a clearout sale. Please contact me with offers, ingame on Hexd, via forums or discord (Mizova). Or just post your offers on here. Unique Stuff: Rift Stuff: Rare/Event items: Tools/Gear: Kingdom Items: 10x TC Flags 7x DD Flags 1x Ebo Banner 2x DD Tall Banner 10x LoA Tall Banner 10x LoA Flag 10x LoA Banner Also selling these wagons: LoA, DD, EMR, Ebo. And finally selling 2 creation ql ships. One Cog, one Corbita. That's it, offer away until it's all gone :3! Ingame: Hexd / Forums: Iberis / Discord: Mizova / Or post offers here.

Just looking for apocalypse order now, willing to pay 1s since it's not a disbanded kingdom.

Looking for 1 kingdom banner of each kingdom for a new sermon group area! Still need.. 1 MR 1 Black Legion 1 Panda 1 Wurm Uni 1 Crusaders 1 VD 1 Apocalyse Order Already have DD, LoA, Hots and JK. Willing to pay 1s for any active Chaos Kingdoms. 2s for any disbanded kingdoms (or will trade with one of my LoA banners). Message Hexd ingame or send me a forum pm

Hope to see you ingame soon!

Alright Rees, if you ever change your mind let me know and if you do drop a deed you are welcome to join our alliance. Message me or ask in freedom if you need any help and goodluck friend!

Bump!

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Looking to trade for a charge of Smoke of Sol or taking best offers. PM on forums if interested or with your offers, thanks.

Will try to make it with Hexd + my alt Blueanne is also a fighter.

Mountain lion statue too small... giant cat statue pls (since we are making requests) Though tbf a giant sea serpent statue would be pretty badass.

For those who had completed goals removed due to the 1.3 update bug, are there any plans for a hotfix for this in the future? Back when it happened as most goals were unachivable nobody reported it since it did not matter as much back then (and was barely noticed if at all by the majority of players). Now that bug is actually making a difference. Can those players who completed goals long before this latest update that had lost them please be looked at perhaps?

Hexd had become a ruler and this goal was previously completed. Was completed in 2016, well before this latest update.

I well and truely got spanked. I was very excited to see my planeswalker goal changed to imp an item to 99ql. I begun working on this immediately and got my boot up to 98ql.. The only other goal was to ride a Cog which I had on standby for the moment the boot was finished. Well as I was just about to "win the game" the "hotfix" occured. Removing 4 of my previously completed goals including my other diamond goal Now Hexd was passed the crown (before my time) while she was in JK in order to complete the become a ruler goal. That was one of her original goals. The epic mission one also I have completed too many to count and that didn't trigger as completed (I'm told I need to do it again which seems to be the running theme here). Well as it turns out the cooking update had some kind of affect on my toon which caused this. I was told from Budda (via shaydow) that it was indeed a bug and my original diamond goal was reset but they had no way to change it back. When I asked if it was possible to auto complete my diamond at the very least and I'll complete the rest (as a compromise) that was not accepted either. Finally I asked if there would be a hotfix for those in my position, I was told it was unlikely but if I make a forum post who knows maybe if enough people make enough noise it might happen. So here I am explaining what happened ?

I would have done it for 6s if I didn't have to buy glimmer and get an imp for it If you can imp it (since I know you guys have a mountain of MM :^) ) I'd pay 6s for a pvp ready one otherwise I'll have to pass sorry Not to mention Mclovin was trying to buy a seryll helm from cyber for 4s similiar ql but seryll. An extra 2s just for being glimmer and not seryll seems a bit much imo... If you are happy selling for 5s cod to Hexd. If you are going to imp it first let me know what ql before sending for 6s ^.^

Come and join the darkside!

5s for the glimsteel helm?

We now have myself, two of my friends who are veteren players and one new player living at my deed - but we still have plenty of room for more people who wish to join us! Message Hexd ingame or send me a forum pm to get in touch.

Port Catnip is a quiet village next to the bay at p20 on the in-game map. I'm currently the only resident living there so lots of room for new players to join the deed. It would be great to have someone that can help me with the farms and animals and in return you can live rent free in your own house, have access to any of the materials you need. I can also make most tools, gear and enchants. The deed has farms, 5 speed horses, cows, sheep, a small but mostly useless mine (we stockpile ore or go offdeed to mine). Also have a docks for boat access and we are connected to the highway system. Clay is on a small island just offdeed but requires a boat. Tar is just to the side of the deed. I have several pre-built houses that players can move into as well as help and advice if you are new to the game. Also I enjoy hunting and rifting so I will gladly take any villages along with me to help them train their fighting skills. Send me a forum PM or contact me ingame on Hexd if you are interested or would like some more information!

New price for wagons!