JukimoV2

yeah, they don't do the stuns anymore aswell

They become super nerfed as zombies, tested myself with the scale of libila. Pet trolls are much stronger then them.

why are people saying that you have to hunt for skill gain now? You can still pen train, you just gotta swap the animals out. people were already doing this, because stance skill caps out at 15mins/3hours on each animal

so umm, now that shield training is like this, can you make it so we can get shield bashing from bred animals? I don't even know why you don't already, it literally makes no difference. Currently you have to go look for wild animals if you want to grind shieldbashing.

An option to set a display for it would be a nice quality of life improvement.

Will probably make an appearance with jukimo, can help out with most things. https://www.niarja.com/skill_compare/Jukimo

-1 its fine as is, stop trying to change chaos.

So you agree that the way the loot system currently works isn't the problem. And that there are other things that can be looked at.

seems to me though that you wouldn't even have an issue with this if rez stones weren't a thing, which i've been in favor of removing rez stones for ages.

How often does that happen compared to kills when hopping? Not very often. I've been playing on chaos for the better part of 4 years now, and I've never seen someone instantly die and lose their ###### to an enemy group. I've seen a few people getting bugged in doors and stuff, but majority of the times, it has to do with them doing it to themselves, like walking into a locked door, or falling ontop of a fence. Sure it might seem annoying the current system in some instances, but its for the best.

If you kill someone you should be entitled to at least have a chance at their stuff. The epic code makes it so that the zerg who can hold the ground always walks away on top. Chaos supports a chance for the underdog to compete and get a chance at loot. There's so many random things that can influence the situation and made the epic loot code bad, like just 1 toon in a nearby longhouse, or in a mine hop. They just changed it according to patch notes that both mines and surface act the same, so if you kill someone mine hopping then you wouldn't be able to get their stuff. Which is completely retarded.

Well I mean, you do have several servers you can go play on with those mechanics. Chaos has been the way it is for a reason, and that's why it still has players. If you keep asking for these awful changes to happen and they go in, and they happen, don't you think chaos will turn into the same thing epic did? Just leave it as is and stop trying to change it.

-1 too many exploits still exist around the epic loot code. Like the fact that anyone can equip gear from the corpse, or that the person who died can still pick their stuff up. Please stop trying to change chaos into epic. If you like the epic loot code so much you are more then welcome to go play there.

and yeah the stun on valrei creatures is rediculously broken. 20 dmg thru 90ql drake on someone with 50 body.... thats just absurd.... and stunned for 10~ seconds or more

??? its 10 seconds not 15, what are you on about...

except... it hasn't been nerfed since release... I have it and its a 10 second timer, and is extremely powerful and has netted many kills... Also I double checked just 1 min ago and it is still 10 seconds... so idk where you are getting your info from but yeah its wrong.

I mean.... You don't hear people saying things like "nerf karma wall" even though I'd say that ability is more op then champs, shield of the gone, or artifact weapons....

so maybe looking at nerfing source liquid spawn, is a better direction then nerfing other things?

well it does cost karma, soo... thats probably why it would be powerful.

yep. loads of things changed in game with no documentation

it's extra work doing what you are asking for... that argument goes both ways, stop twisting the argument to fit your needs and just discuss without bias...

that would require them to keep that test server up to date, with the most recent patch, and for them to actually document all of the changes that are made and not just "some" of them. Also the challenge server is a bad place to test things in because of the competetiveness and prizes that are being handed out. Changing things on a server mid way thru, when there are prizes at stake is not a good idea.

ahahhahahah except for the part where true strike doesn't even work. If it did work, you folks would be in some serious trouble

I seriously don't understand all this fuss about gone.. If your account is better then someone with gone, and you are landing more hits then you are being hit, then you will most likely win the fight regardless. I for one have killed many sotg accounts without having it myself, and I don't understand why gone is the thing being looked at for change? So if I have 90+ weapon skill and my opponent doesn't does that mean weapon skill should get nerfed? So if i have 90+ shield skill and my opponent doesn't does that mean shield skill should get nerfed? So if I have 90+ archery skill and my opponent doesn't does that mean that archery skill should get nerfed? So if i have 90+ quality weapons and armor and my opponent doesn't does that mean that weapons and armor should get nerfed? Close this silly thread please.

Neither do I, and I have been on loads of kills using none of the above.