GorgonKain

Griefing is basically non existent as you would think of it on a PvE server, at least in HoTS where I live. Kingdoms are by design here to work towards common goals. On the very rare occasion that someone is caught stealing or doing something uncouth, they are usually killed and removed from the alliance after a short "trial" by their village if it is a severe infraction. Villages are created mostly on the basis of strategic importance, placed in areas to protect choke points or have a safe spot to retreat to. We do have "Freedom Deeds" but they are mostly found on the starter island where that playstyle is safer. As to the mentality, we have all kinds. The worst "toxicity" I have personally experienced is the min-maxing, which is basically never forced on others. Largely those sorts of things are given as advice rather then demands (unless you are consuming a lot of someone else's resources). In my personal experience, PvE servers are far more toxic on the day to day. There is a lot of smack talk on PvP servers, but most of it is in good fun. You have the occasional salty salmon, but that is going to happen basically in every game.

Basically, Emoo is a very high profile player on a very old server. This is a one time issue, that while extremely unfortunate, isn't going to happen to the average player. Sadly, this is still the mindset of some players on Chaos, that winning is the only object no matter what the cost is. The culture on Defiance feels much better, players are here to enjoy the game, nothing more. Part of it is a lot less investment, some characters and deeds on chaos are literally a decade old, so there is a lot of personal attachment. Defiance is a lot more laid back. If you are interested in PvP, seriously go for it. As noted with the above, using steam makes your account safer then ever. Edit: He is back on Chaos btw, the little MRC comeback tour

"Escobar probably has a meaty bum" Chev - 2020

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oops, the formatting was not what I was expecting and missed the item names. My bad. Both of these are already sold though it seems, and no comparable items available

1ql 60CoC 1s0c 33ql 53CoC 0s65c COD To Bengorgon please

[06:53:53] A short but sturdy axe with a thick blade specially designed to cut down trees with but poor in combat. This is a very rare and interesting version of the item. It could be improved with a lump. [06:53:53] Circle of Cunning has been cast on it, so it will increase skill gained with it when used. [50] 10s Start 1s Min Bid 25s Buyout

He specifically listed 2 features of artifacts that already exist in game.

Fundamentally that is kinda shitty for the person who made a fantastic item for it to disappear after some time. I urge you to read the actual mechanics behind artifacts first. You do not get to keep it indefinitely.

I like this idea better then player gods for a valrei reward. Artifacts are one of the few things that are removed from the "all things player driven" mechanics of Wurm. Adding some amount of agency to the system, along with immortalizing important or active players with it, would be amazing. As it stands, artifacts are game changing, but not completely insane in power. Maintaining that balance with player made artifacts being slightly weaker would make this system fun, game changing, but not intensely overpowered.

Create a WU server with these changes and see how well it all goes over. After all, that is what WU is for.

No zone in Eve is strictly pve in the way Wurm is. Highsec is a retributive npc justice system, it does not protect you via game systems from someone killing you. If you are using that as a basis for your argument, it is already flawed. Eve has no "safe zones" where someone can't just kill you because they feel like it.

Please no. There are enough "safe zones" on Defiance as it is. Even there people don't want to interact with most of the PvP systems. If anything we need greater separation between pvp and pve areas.

This goes both ways. The scale, drake, tomes, and large amounts of building materials bought by PvPers and brought to Chaos massively changes the flow of the game on our side as well. It is not a one way economy. How many PvPers do you think pay for full drake sets, or scraps gathered on PvE servers, where there is no risk in capturing and killing them? When RMT was an option, many exclusively PvE traders made hundreds of euro off of people looking to gain an edge in PvP. I have not seen a whole lot of complaining from the PvPers I interact with about non-transferable items because it upsets the balance of both sides of the world.

I think a huge issue here is allowing priests to transfer to pve and suffer no downsides on the pvp side. Been struggling with this personally, why shouldn't I priest? I hate the restrictions and loss of body growth, but I would be significantly more effective in combat if I did so. However, I could just transfer to PvE and have none of those downsides, and I would additionally get vyn skillgain and eventually the knowledge path bonus. This directly incentiveses me to both priest, and spend at least half my time on PvE. Conversely, removing those mechanics (non transferable faith and meditation) breeds the "I will just grind until I am ready" mindset that means you never actually move to a PvP server. It is a messy one to be sure.

Going to go through the standard points again here, just so they are in a more recent thread for people. This has been argued to death since probably when wild was split. This one is new though so going to quickly address the side point: this thread is specifically for NFI stuff. You cannot transfer any item, wagon or otherwise, from Defiance to any PvE server on the cluster. There is no economical advantage here. You don't need to kill anyone necessarily to obtain a hota statue. You simply need to capture the pillars in the appropriate zone. This may even be done with limited to no resistance on Chaos with low population. As for the wagons, you can build any for the basic kingdoms simply by joining the default kingdoms while on Chaos and transferring it back. Because the purpose of a PMK is not for cosmetics. It is to provide a series of roles and structures first and foremost. The system is intrinsically linked to those features. Before a PMK even applies for additional art resources, they default to the template kingdom the PMK was founded from. --------- Additional art features on PvE servers are basically a non-issue to me. If people want to pay 100 euro for a wagon skin and some banners, I say more power too them. They should be separated from pvp specific rewards however, both to incentives those on more dangerous servers (not by much), and as a trophy for successfully completing events.

[03:39:28] A short but sturdy axe with a thick blade specially designed to cut down trees with but poor in combat. This is a very rare and interesting version of the item. It could be improved with a lump. Apparently you are my good and bad luck charm, turned that boy rare. Tyvm for the speedy delivery!

QL 1 Hatchet Head, iron c50(1.9s) to Bengorgon please

Going to be a big ol' "lol wut" from me. As the pvp community continues to argue that there is no benefit to living on Defiance over a PvE server, colored wagons and some spicy statuary are once again a point of contention. Some small cosmetic benefits are the least of the issues that should be looked at.

I would really like to see the old hota arena return. Not only is it a centralized place to find some pvp, it is easier to prepare people who might not otherwise roam or people who live further from frontlines of roaming territory. Having at least one pre-ordained time to ride out and hit each other would do a lot imo.

It is... beautiful.... Might not be a feud though, cutting down gives more body stats then chopping up (which gives more woodcutting). That might be a reason that isn't grief related.

-1 There are already altar wars on freedom as it is, this would cause even more contention between nearby deeds if someone didn't want mycellium on their deed.

As a player, the easiest way to check if the coffers have anything is to try selling an item to a deed token. If it says the coffers are currently empty, you will also not receive any coins from other inspiration tasks.

The removal of rmt was exactly what brought me back (along with new character only servers). The Wurm rmt market was one of the worst things to plague the game for basically anyone not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to get ahead.