Cally

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    Liviella
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    Everace
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    Cally
  1. Congratulations, you found a bug in the test client: <WARNING: Price change in item update! new: 72644 item:74885> Please post the console log below on the wurm unlimited forums, and describe what you were doing when it happened. Contents of console.log: Time is Tue Jan 17 13:02:33 EST 2017 Running client version === System information === Executing from C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wurm Unlimited\WurmLauncher\ Operating system: Windows 10 (arch: amd64, version: 10.0) Java version: 1.8.0_60 (Oracle Corporation) <http://java.oracle.com/> Jvm version: 25.60-b23 (Oracle Corporation) [Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM] Available CPUs: 4 WARNING: Could not open/create prefs root node Software\JavaSoft\Prefs at root 0x80000002. Windows RegCreateKeyEx(...) returned error code 5. Loading character Cally Loading config default Loading props file PlayerFiles\configs\default\gamesettings.txt Executing PlayerFiles\configs\default\keybindings.txt Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for MOVE_BACK: DOWN Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for MOVE_FORWARD: UP Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for PUSH: P Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for IMPROVE: I Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for IMPROVE: T Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for TURN_RIGHT: RIGHT Keybinds UI: Secondary keybind for TURN_LEFT: LEFT >>> Main thread exiting. Loaded pack sound.jar (null) Loaded pack pmk.jar (null) Loaded pack graphics.jar (null) Loading props file PlayerFiles\players\Cally\playerdata_test.txt Loading props file PlayerFiles\players\Cally\stats.txt Preparing to enable console logging. Now logging to PlayerFiles\console.Cally.log === Wurm options === animation_playback_self = 0 auto_mipmaps_enabled = 2 auto_run_source = 0 cavedetail = 2 censor_chat = true collada_animations = 3 color_black = 0.0,0.0,0.0 color_cyan = 0.0,1.0,1.0 color_error = 1.0,0.3,0.3 color_fuchsia = 1.0,0.0,1.0 color_green = 0.08,1.0,0.08 color_grey = 0.5,0.5,0.5 color_lime = 0.0,1.0,0.0 color_maroon = 0.5,0.0,0.0 color_navy_blue = 0.23,0.39,1.0 color_orange = 1.0,0.5,0.0 color_purple = 0.5,0.0,0.5 color_red = 1.0,0.0,0.0 color_royal_blue = 0.23,0.39,1.0 color_silver = 0.75,0.75,0.75 color_system = 0.5,1.0,0.5 color_teal = 0.0,0.5,0.5 color_white = 1.0,1.0,1.0 color_yellow = 1.0,1.0,0.0 compressed_textures = false compressed_textures_S3TC = true connectByIpIp = 127.0.0.1 connectByIpport = 3724 contribution_culling = 150 custim_timer_source = 1 customTimer1 = -1|-1 customTimer2 = -1|-1 customTimer3 = -1|-1 customTimer4 = -1|-1 customTimer5 = -1|-1 debug_mode = false depth_clamp_enabled = 2 disable_select_all_shortcut = false display_settings = false:false:0:1024:768:32:-1:false:true enable_contribution_culling = false enable_debugs = false enable_lod = true enable_shift_drag = false enable_vsync = true engine_multithreaded = 0 event_log_rotation = 2 exec_source = 0 fast_yield = false fbo_enabled = 2 fog_coord_src = 0 font_antialias = 2 font_bold = 11 font_default = 11 font_header = 24 font_italian = 11 font_monospaced = 11 font_static = 11 fov_horizontal = 80 fps_limit = 60 fps_limit_background = 30 fps_limit_enabled = true free_look_mode_disable_on_close_component = false free_look_mode_disable_on_combat = false free_look_mode_disable_on_open_component = false free_look_mode_sensitivity = 10 game_client_thread_priority = 2 glsl_debug_loading = false glsl_enabled = 2 gpu_skinning = true gui_opacity = 3 gui_skin = 1 has_read_eula = false hide_inactive_friends = false hide_menu_examine = false hide_menu_no_target = false hide_menu_spam_mode = true hide_menu_stop = false hide_onscreen_fail_messages = false hide_onscreen_hostile_messages = false hide_onscreen_info_messages = false hide_personal_goal = false high_res_binoculars = true hint_texture_scaling = 1 impColumn = true inverse_mouse = false irc_log_rotation = 2 irc_notif = 0 item_creature_render_distance = 3 key_bindings_source = 0 keyboard_layout = 0 loadInventoryStartup = true local_list_in_event = false lod = 1 log_extra_errors = false log_gl_errors = false mark_text_read = true material_as_suffix = true max_texture_size = 2 mega_texture_size = 6 model_loader_thread_priority = 2 model_loading_threads = 1 mount_rotation = false multidraw_enabled = 2 no_brightness = false no_terrain_render = false no_world_render = false non_power_of_two = 2 occlusion_queries_enabled = 2 offscreen_texture_size = 2 other_log_rotation = 2 outline_picking = true player_texture_size = 2 reflection_texture_size = 2 reflections = 2 release_context = false release_context_on_jogl_sleep = false remember_password = true render_distant_terrain = true render_glow = false render_sun_glare = false resident_models = false save_skills_on_quit = true screenshot_file_format = 1 season_override = 0 send_extra_tile_data = false setting_timestamps = true settings_version = 3 shadow_level = 0 shift_drag_default = 10 showKChat = true show_body_in_inventory = false show_old_quickbar = false silent_friends_update = false skillgain_minimum = 5 skillgain_no_alignment = false skillgain_no_favor = false skydetail = 1 sound_al_gain = 15 sound_buzzlevel = 2 sound_cache_enabled = true sound_doppler_enabled = false sound_engine = 2 sound_footstepslevel = 10 sound_music_level = 0 sound_play_PMAlert = false sound_play_ambients = true sound_play_buzz = false sound_play_combat = true sound_play_door = true sound_play_emotes = true sound_play_footsteps = true sound_play_music = false sound_play_weather = true sound_play_work = true start_dedicated_server = false stipple_enabled = true structure_render_distance = 3 submit_client_data = 0 terrain_bump = true terrain_res = 2 test_attach_equipment = false test_mode = 0 thirdPerson = false tile_transitions = true tiledecorations = 2 togglePushToTalk = true treelist_outline = true trees = 3 update_optional = true use_alpha_particles = true use_anisotropic_filtering = 2 use_antialiasing = 1 use_color_picking = true use_fast_clock_work_around = true use_fbo_color_picking = true use_nagles_algorithm = false use_nano_timer = false use_non_alpha_particles = true use_phobia_models = false use_tree_models = true use_weather_particles = true vbo_enabled = 2 viewport_bob = true water_detail = 2 Setting up Collada Model Loader Setting up WurmModel Model Loader Executing PlayerFiles\configs\default\keybindings.txt Translating legacy key PAGE_UP to PRIOR Translating legacy key PAGE_DOWN to NEXT Translating legacy key ENTER to RETURN Word filter loaded: 23 Starting job manager with 3 worker threads Using LWJGL display 1024:768:0:0 (false) Setting up OpenAL Sound Engine OpenAL version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.15.1 OpenAL renderer: OpenAL Soft OpenAL vendor: OpenAL Community OpenAL extensions: AL_EXT_ALAW AL_EXT_DOUBLE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE AL_EXT_FLOAT32 AL_EXT_IMA4 AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_MULAW AL_EXT_MULAW_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_source_distance_model AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_SOFT_buffer_samples AL_SOFT_buffer_sub_data AL_SOFTX_deferred_updates AL_SOFT_direct_channels AL_SOFT_loop_points AL_SOFT_source_latency Generating: 128 source channels. === OpenGL information === LWJGL version: 2.9.1 Adapter info: aticfx64 (8.17.10.1404) OpenGL vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer: AMD Radeon HD 6450 OpenGL version: 4.5.13399 Compatibility Profile Context 15.201.1151.1008 OpenGL extensions: GL_AMDX_debug_output GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessellator GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_AMD_debug_output GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_AMD_name_gen_delete GL_AMD_performance_monitor GL_AMD_pinned_memory GL_AMD_query_buffer_object GL_AMD_sample_positions GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export GL_AMD_shader_trace GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array GL_AMD_texture_texture4 GL_AMD_transform_feedback3_lines_triangles GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer GL_AMD_vertex_shader_tessellator GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_1_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_buffer_storage GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_clear_texture GL_ARB_clip_control GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compatibility GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_compute_shader GL_ARB_conditional_render_inverted GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_copy_image GL_ARB_cull_distance GL_ARB_debug_output GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_derivative_control GL_ARB_direct_state_access GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_indirect GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_enhanced_layouts GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_layer_viewport GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_get_texture_sub_image GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_internalformat_query2 GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multi_bind GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pipeline_statistics_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_program_interface_query GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_query_buffer_object GL_ARB_robust_buffer_access_behavior GL_ARB_sample_shading GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shader_image_load_store GL_ARB_shader_image_size GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_precision GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export GL_ARB_shader_storage_buffer_object GL_ARB_shader_subroutine GL_ARB_shader_texture_image_samples GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_stencil_texturing GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_tessellation_shader GL_ARB_texture_barrier GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32 GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_gather GL_ARB_texture_mirror_clamp_to_edge GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_multisample GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_query_levels GL_ARB_texture_query_lod GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui GL_ARB_texture_snorm GL_ARB_texture_stencil8 GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample GL_ARB_texture_swizzle GL_ARB_texture_view GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transform_feedback2 GL_ARB_transform_feedback3 GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced GL_ARB_transform_feedback_overflow_query GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_vertex_type_10f_11f_11f_rev GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev GL_ARB_viewport_array GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_copy_buffer GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset_clamp GL_EXT_provoking_vertex GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shader_image_load_store GL_EXT_shader_integer_mix GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texgen_reflection GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_bptc GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_transform_feedback GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KHR_context_flush_control GL_KHR_debug GL_KHR_robust_buffer_access_behavior GL_KHR_robustness GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_copy_image GL_NV_depth_buffer_float GL_NV_explicit_multisample GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_OES_EGL_image GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control GLSL version: 4.40 GLSL max vertex uniforms: 4096 (16384) GLSL max fragment uniforms: 4096 (16384) GLSL max varyings: 128 (128) Preloading builtin materials Preloading builtin materials done Launching Collada Model Loader threads Launching WOM Loader threads Starting workaround for fast running clocks Using LWJGL timer. Initialized mouse with 5 buttons. Experimental direct buffer cleaner init successful Startup Phase - Setting up.. Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11). Texture Size: 512 Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11, italic). Texture Size: 128 Loading window positions from PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1024x768.txt Loading props file PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1024x768.txt Gui initialized Startup Phase - Preparing terrain Startup Phase - Connecting .. Disabling Nagles Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\_Event.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\_Friends.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\Alliance.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\Village.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\CA_HELP.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\GL-Freedom.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\Server.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\Freedom.2017-01.txt Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\Trade.2017-01.txt Login successful Executing PlayerFiles\configs\default\autorun.txt Resized terrain FBOs to 1024 Now using reflection FBO (512) Initializing font texture for SansSerif (12). Texture Size: 128 Writing to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\test_logs\_Skills.2017-01.txt Now using reflection FBO (1024) Saving window positions to PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1024x768.txt Saving props file PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1024x768.txt Loading window positions from PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1680x987.txt Loading props file PlayerFiles\players\Cally\windows_1680x987.txt Initializing font texture for SansSerif (32, bold). Texture Size: 512 Initializing font texture for SansSerif (11, bold). Texture Size: 128 Initializing font texture for SansSerif (24, bold). Texture Size: 256 Initializing font texture for Monospaced (11). Texture Size: 128 Execution aborted at connection 1, iteration 21167 Run time 16m, local time Tue Jan 17 13:19:03 EST 2017 Destroying game window ====== FAILED ASSERT ====== com.wurmonline.client.GameCrashedException: WARNING: Price change in item update! new: 72644 item:74885 at com.wurmonline.client.GameCrashedException.forFailure(GameCrashedException.java:63) at com.wurmonline.client.GameCrashedException.warn(GameCrashedException.java:37) at com.wurmonline.client.game.inventory.InventoryMetaWindow.updateItem(InventoryMetaWindow.java:326) at com.wurmonline.client.comm.ServerConnectionListenerClass.updateInventoryItem(ServerConnectionListenerClass.java:2940) at com.wurmonline.client.comm.SimpleServerConnectionClass.reallyHandleCmdUpdateInventory(SimpleServerConnectionClass.java:2467) at com.wurmonline.client.comm.SimpleServerConnectionClass.reallyHandle(SimpleServerConnectionClass.java:1343) at com.wurmonline.communication.SocketConnection.tick(SocketConnection.java:615) at com.wurmonline.client.comm.SimpleServerConnectionClass.update(SimpleServerConnectionClass.java:270) at com.wurmonline.client.WurmClientBase.serverUpdate(WurmClientBase.java:1423) at com.wurmonline.client.WurmClientBase.runGameLoop(WurmClientBase.java:370) at com.wurmonline.client.WurmClientBase.runConnectionLoop(WurmClientBase.java:330) at com.wurmonline.client.WurmClientBase.runGame(WurmClientBase.java:312) at com.wurmonline.client.WurmClientBase.run(WurmClientBase.java:1485) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
  2. So I bought a new computer. It's the Dell XPS9350-5340SLV 13.3 Inch QHD+ Touchscreen Laptop (6th Generation Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD) Microsoft Signature Edition from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015PYYO0C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I installed the dell driver updates and ran ninite updates, manually edited the settings to fix some other problems, but no matter what I do, I can't seem to edit the settings via the icon. Whenever I mouseover the gear icon, it disappears, and when I click on it, it opens up. I can change tabs, but if I try to click on any dropdown menus, the dropdown turns black and everything freezes. Also, because the screen resolution is so high, and Wurm doesn't seem to scale pixels, all of the words are suuuuper tiny. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could fix either of these problems? Thank you!
  3. Please stop using URL shorteners for these URLs. I can't click through them because of filters at work, and it's really difficult to track down where the news is ACTUALLY located.
  4. It could be, but I'm sort of hoping to confirm that that's the issue before I give up and wait until the weekend for the server hosts to update.
  5. Whether I try to log onto Wyvern, or Sklotopolis or whichever server, Wurm Unlimited is telling me that I'm using an old client and that I need to update it at wurmonline.com which is obviously untrue. I tried restarting Steam but no dice. Wurm did an update a few minutes ago but seemed to hang on the last seconds when it was trying to load Wurm, so I just clicked "play" and that loaded it up the server connection screen, but I can't actually connect to any servers. Do I just have to wait until the servers update to the new Wurm version, did the update somehow fail, or -- ? But I can't find on steam how to update my client manually.
  6. Oh no! I lived next door to Oracle on Deliverance and he helped me out a lot
  7. Will Wurm Unlimited require multiple purchases to play more than one character at a time?
  8. It seems like an odd oversight for gold lamps to do nothing much special.
  9. Bell Cot is 120kg when in progress, then after I add all the planks, it's only 30kg?
  10. I had a bit of a mishap on the east coast of inde thanks to somebody who thinks unfriendly switchbacks and dead end 200+ slopes make for great deed design, so, definitely not today. I'm going to spend the rest of the day desperately trying to recover my corpse, sigh. Next week for sure.
  11. I'd like to get the Bear v Bull but today is the only day I can sail down -- I'll be in New York this weekend. If we don't manage to get everything set up, can you set it aside for me to pick up next week?
  12. 1. If possible, I would like to see all the combat-related messages inside the 'Combat' tab, not split with the Events tab. For example the 'RIP' message, the shield that can't be used, focus, etc. 2. Increase the number of activities that can be performed while riding or commanding cart/wagon/ship. I'd also like mend to work on more things. It feels like it only works on pelts, sometimes. What's the point if I can't mend most unrepairable things, like troll clubs and meals?
  13. Why can't I add a felled tree to the crafting window if it's on the ground?
  14. I wasn't riding it. And it's basically a drag-and-drop motion interface. The number of things I have to dismount to do is just silly.