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why doesn't he just put the old home server/wild server code back in then? it worked with kingdoms before, is the freedom code THAT much different? why ppl cant understand we dont need kingdoms, just open the pvp, we know who we want to kill or not, is this really too simple to get it?? everything will be the same as now, but without penalties for atacking others or draining deeds

because adding another server is the worst idea, we already have too many of them. It wont give you many new players, but it will spread (already small) community even more.

this. Its so simple, just open the pvp, thats all, no need to code anything, we will deal with everything by our self (no need pmks, we have alliances, enemies?? it will be up to our own will, if we want to kill someone or not, its a sandbox)

im not o sure if new server is the best solution, but if speaking about that i am all for replacing the current Wild, not adding another one.

i still dont understand why ppl playing on Epic or other Freedom`s maps care about enabling free pvp on Wild?? its not that your opinion doesnt matter, but i see that few of you are trying very hard to prevent something that will make us very happy, but wont affect you in any ways (unless you care about amount of players on your map, since some might be back on Wild, but that would be selfish)

Everything but not another map, i would rather vote for a reset current one than adding more unpopulated maps. Just open the pvp on Chaos, thats all, simple, fast and good (worked very well for many years). (dont listen to those saying that opening pvp will ruin their new deeds, when Wild went freedom you stated it very clear, that pvp will be still allowed, so those who planted new deeds (im one of them) and now complaining because they are not prepared are just pathetic, we knew exactly what we were doing, we will deal with it)

if i got it right, youre complaining that we are playing longer than you or just that we have higher skills than you ??

A map reset would fix the map technical problems. what problems?? yea, we will have other problems: small, easy to travel map means a decent group can do a massive dmg in short amount of time and ppl will complain again. if someone doesnt like mountains it doesnt mean its a problem especially since ppl are living on them, have deeds not to mention some raids happened there so they arent so bad

having new map is always fun, but im against it, its just a temporary solution and we will be in the same point in a year or two. I can agree for scheduled resets every few months or years, but not if we are going to do it once, right now, just to fix the current problems because it wont fix anything.

other were worse ;D

cant say i have good pics because for some reason quality is really low :-\ and i didnt really take much. most common situation, looking at the map because we kept getting lost ^^ drinking at the one of the few places we visited: just a random picture: and another one: small group foto: somewhere in Utrecht, posting it just because the lights looks cool ;p and one of the few things i will remember the most

Amsterdam- invaded by wurmians! It was great weekend, im happy i could be there. T-shirt is prieceless

Its very minimal coding... All has to be done is opening border between Wild and Freedom, thats all (aka old JK Home/Wild style) nothing else has to be changed. I dont really see any reasons in turning Wild into non-pvp. Wilders dont want it and everyone will agree theres no need for another Freedom map (the 3rd one wasnt even really needed). Having Wild pvp or turned into non-pvp wont make any diff for the Freedom cluster as a whole since borders are going to be opend anyway, so why not just listen to people and keep it the way they want it??

Last time i was on Golden Valey you could go to Epic and Wild from there directly not only to Freedom

read the thread again, moving items or anything else from wild to epic is the last thing wilders are asking for.

Meh Belphegor, youre keep posting, but never gave even a one argument but only saying "no". Keep trolling. Soon you will get to the conclusion that 2 things cant be the same because they are not 1 thing lol. MIth`s explanation above cant be more clear, if you wont get it then meh...

the very same situation lol, are you blind or something ?? Rolf decisions > ppl unhappy > map being closed > ppl moved to other map with items And its not an argument, its just explanation why it would be fair a running server doesnt mean Wild is alive. and once again....old homes servers, this what happened then... i will be bringing this all the time, just to show you why it is fair, because the same situation happened bafore, and somehow then it was fair Im not hell-bent, i dont want it, i dont want to play on freedom. I just see it as a fair solution Oh yea, because pvp server is about possibility of losing items, because of closing maps ;D

quote atleast few non-freedomers who are against /transfer, or just keep trolling

this was only one of the option. The very first and the main suggestion was a /transfer command (so 200 items). Even Rolf made a poll about it, but freedomers cried so loud, that Rolf not only decied to not giving us it, but also removed /transfer option for very old, inactive accounts ??? Good work.

More or less yes. When JK/MR homes were shutted down, everyone from those servers were moved to freedom with their items. Now when Wild is really close to being closed (hard to find anyone who believe it wont happen) the same ppl who were moved there with their items are saying NO to us ???

It was your own decision. We are being forced to either quit or move to freedom because Wild is unplayable because of Rolf decision`s (and will remain like this till february atleast and nobody really know what will happen then, but theres not much hope for Wild anymore). It is fair

because EVERYONE got that option when Freedom started. When Gold2 was launched Rolf promised there wont be any resets anymore. We had faith in his words and decided to stay on Wild, but introducing his Epic`s idea was basically a big slap in our faces because it was obvious it will kill Wild and it did, so why we should be punished for that?? All that people is asking for is keeping some of their OWN items like everyone else did in the past, how can it be not fair ??

I still have no idea what are you talking about, propably because you either. Most of the current wild players dont even want to play on freedom. There are only a few who want that, seeing the Wild is RIP atm and there is no point playing there, they want to keep playing on Freedom atleast and its fully understandable they want to bring their items with them. This idea is supported by some more players, not even playing on Wild, because as i said, its fully understandable and very fair.

Could you be more specific?? Who do you call a majority of whiners ??