Julepalme

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  1. Tried saccing anywhere from 500 to 3000 doorlocks in a day.. and the enchanting bonus went down both times. So im not sure if it even works.. or if it does how.
  2. We're Doomed!

    Spawn a boss.. unique like str.. maybe even double that of a forest giant or something Make it spawn monsters.. valrei critters maybe that seek out towers, deeds, players and hunts them or something like this.. Dont stop spawning monsters untill the boss is killed. Could spawn the boss in the center of elevation in the hota area.. call it a Lackey of wurm or something. Make it last untill killed.
  3. Yep as i said before.. perpetuating the stereotype that any and all people playing hots only do it for pvp.. that must be truth because i hear people say it over and over.. cant ever be BL people wanting to pve as BL.
  4. Agreed.. a lot of the spells are somewhat the same.. yet little different.. some heals the caster and his friends.. some deal dmg to structures and players etc. i dont see why lot of spells couldnt be like this aswell like drain stamina, stamina and mass stamina spells for lib/fo/mag.. good example of how spells ought to be.. vary the favor cost/diff a bit and make slightly different effects but under the same umbrella. and yeah sure go ahead and lock this.. im sure all sides got their opinions out in the open here.. good place to end the thread i think.
  5. Sry had to come back to reply to this. i counted the 62 from different spells.. look at the spreadsheet.. the WL only + bl/WL shared spell count at the bottom gives 62 added together.. didnt count any duplicates spells between WL twice there.. so six sense is only counted 1 time in that even tho all 3 religions have it.. and so is other double/triple spells.. and about having seperate woa/coc put in the same square so obviously counted as 1 spell not 2.. which is even to be fair in WL's advantage when comparing.. otherwise it would just be 1 spell more they have against us. and woa/coc vs botd is a mixed business.. yes we can get a cheaper and easier doublecast.. but they can get better skilling tools since they can do CoC only. so its somewhat equal i consider it.. altho i'd love to trade for better coc only tools with some botd anyday and im glad to see 2 people now who could atleast give some proper critism/contrustive feedback to the discussion
  6. Well im out of this thread.. leaving you with my summary.. even tho most people seem too stubborn or ignorant to believe it. WL themselve have 62 spells.. BL have 35 or so spells and no rite of spring/ritual of the sun/holy crop equivelant to WL Everyone says we shouldnt make BL a copy of the other kingdoms i agree.. but yet BL have 7 or so unique spells that WL dont have and 29 of our spells are copies in one way or another from a WL spell. so shouldnt the people saying dont make BL a copy of WL agree that BL need a overhaul to make them feel more unique ? apparently not.. And yes ive said it before and ill say it again.. never been about how overpowered priests are.. i agree some real balacing could be done there.. my concern is the lack of unique spells for BL.. looking at the spreadsheet posted at the very start.. we just dont have it. 7 unique BL spells vs 33 WL only spells.. ofc those numbers vary a bit compared to what spells you consider similar, but yeah.. noone can deny BL isnt really unique anymore if they really meant what they said about BL not being a copy of WL they'd support an overhaul of our spells. That said .. this thread has degenerated into something i don't like anymore.. you can have it conloach/candee.. im out.
  7. hate to repeat myself.. but yes tone down our pvp abilities by all means.. and start giving us a little more utility spell.. over half our arsenal is dmg spells.. if you dont count the spells all kingdoms get.. like vessel/dispel etc. said it before and ill say it again, since people apparently dont read the entire thread before posting.. altho i dont blame them.. half of its people trying to derail it offtopic.
  8. Exactly no reason BL has to be a copy of the other gods.. as i said.. 27-29~ of the spells BL have is a more or less direct copy of a similar WL spells.. we have almost no spells with effects we can say is our own.. besides maybe rotting wounds.. but even Fo has poison enchant. Change up some of our spells to make them feel more unique maybe.. and give us more pve spells instead of having 10 more or less redundant pvp spells. i dont think we need 3 aoe spells, and 4 different direct dmg spells and 3 different zombie ressing spells.. Even our own spells are barely tweaked copies of each other.. worm brains, rotting gut, drain health and to some extent phantasm. not to mention fungus trap, pain rain and scorn of libila.. 1 static, 1 instant and 1 also heals.. but why do we need 3 spells for that .. other kingdoms make do fine with 1-2 aoe and 1-2 direct dmg spells.. with varying effect.. like doing dmg to structures aswell or healing aswell.. And i went hots from freedom to support my friends who wanted to pvp. personally im a stay at home work on the deed kind of guy mostly.. make tools/weapons/gear etc for people and breed horses.. dont see why thats so strange people cant grasp the concept some BL wanna play this way.
  9. yeah yeah.. continue perpetuating the stereotype of pvp only kingdom.. so fresh.
  10. well thats your opinion.. but the spreadsheet and anything else ive said still stands and im serious when i said BL are getting the shaft when it comes to pve/utility spells.. and if noone else wants to see it or admit i say they are ignorant. obvious from the count done on the spreadsheet.. and ofc that other one was just to respond in a language he would understand.. because big generalisation about kingdoms is easy to do.. instead of discussing the subject at hand looking at the facts presented. Easy for WL to just dismiss the facts put out and my cries for equality.. we have 7 unique spells WL have 33.. remove 12 spells from WL goods to bring it down to 21.. be even then with 1 to 3 gods.. or add 4 to BL.. giving it 11 to 33 unique spells pr side. not like BL totally have 36 spells avaiable or so.. rough estimate.. where WL have around 62 spells on their side to use.
  11. Again with the .. oh but BL is only pvp.. okay you keep believing that because the lore says so.. lets not balance it at all then.. lets just remove any pve feature from BL the abilty to do any mining, smithing etc.. and just give them double damage in pvp.. because thats apparently all BL should do am i right?
  12. ^^ thats almost what BL have atm.. about 26 of our spells are the same in one way or another to WL spells.. hardly no variety, exactly what im trying to get some focus on.. Again heres you saying every Hots is evil.. evil people dont breed horses apparently, or locate settlements, or make mines they might want to collapse (just a few examples) All we are to WL are enemies.. we arent people who like to play the game. .we are expected to pvp only i guess. And im all for getting more unique spells into the game for each side.. but as i said before.. WL have 33 unique spells.. BL has 7.. rest of BL spells we share with WL in one way or another.. So as you said.. im all for making BL spells more different than WL.. or adding another priest to BL that has more unique spells instead of leaving us with copies of most of WL spell if it was up to me there would be almost no similar spells on either side.. every god would have 30 unique spells. and BL would have atleast 1 more god.
  13. Don't think i've ever considered mongols OP in pvp but i do think they are very cowardly when it comes to pvp. in all my experience with them theyve never gone someplace to raid/pvp unless they had 3x as many players and a champ nogump. And ofc thats all down to numbers which im sure anyone can get.. just never found it very in very good taste to outnumber people that much and ruin their deed. And i cant talk for anyone other kingdoms.. prolly guilty of the same thing in the past.. just distateful otherwise no.. mongols are fine keep it up.
  14. im not saying they are shitty overall.. they are used for pvp.. but as ive said about 20 times in this thread already.. my focus both in the Original post and now is on the lack of PvE/Utility spells for some reason BL was designed to be as carebear unfriendly as possible.. unlike both fo mag and vyn who have a lot of nice utility for non-pvp people. and it seems noone wants to discuss that shortcoming.. all just bashing their heads against the wall focusing on pvp.. which i totally agree lib priests are too op in pvp.
  15. I can think of atleast a couple more than that i could make good use of on BL side Mend Strongwall/disintegrate Genesis reveal settlement and maybe give us a rite spell.. cant be fair only WL spells have one.. Rite of spring, ritual of summer and holy crop.. apparently once BL had rite of death but for some unknown reason it was removed.. http://puu.sh/X5lu http://puu.sh/X5lJ and theres probably more great utility spells that are WL only.. while BL only have truehit & fungus that i would consider somewhat unique to BL side.. in terms of utility.
  16. Noone talking about nerfing mongols Noone asking to buff an already buffed priest.. just add some pve utlity. and maybe even nerf pvp i've said. Never once said crown was OP.. i said its def. on par with our land of the dead and i consider it fair.. and maybe even think the other kingdoms JK/MR should have something similar in termsof a doomsday spell/device. And if you wanna derail this thread into a hell horse thread.. theres other places for it. And as far as effort.. no matter how much effort i put into the game that wont get us more unique spells compared to WL.. only devs realising this is an unfair situation will.. and they wont if you dont agree to a mature discussion on the topic instead of mocking BL and derailing any thread we make.. even the serious ones.l And if you think BL doesnt put any effort into our breeding or whatnot. think again. And no i never brought up your numbers.. thats all you again trying to change the topic.. And no i never complained about you having nearly all artifiacts thats you again trying to change the topic.. so with that out of the system.. focus on the topic maybe ?
  17. Im not saying we should pour every spell in a lib priest.. infact that would be just silly.. and yes lib priests are overpowered to some extent in pvp.. im also arguing for a nerf to their pvp spells.. but my main concern when i made this thread is and has always been the lack of pve/utility spells on BL side.. but that being said i think the priest/spell system sorely needs an overhaul for both pvp and pve balance. I agree pm others point of view that from a pvp standpoint lib priests prolly are more op than others.. not a lot but yes more op i guess. And. nothing is forcing pve people to priest.. but still people would often like to have some pve utlity.. i mean would you like to give up genesis and strongwall and live without them on WL side?
  18. saying lib priests is centered around PvP is silly to me... maybe they are.. but they shouldnt be.. its not like any BL dont want to do PvE things.. breed horses, make a great deed etc. farm. anyone saying BL and anyone on Epic should stick solely to pvp is kinda misguided in my opinion.. there should be room for pve people aswell over here.. even it means just building deed defenses and breeding speedy horses/hellhorses. and playing with their priest enchanting gear for pvpers. and im sure most people will tell me to go to freedumb or someplace.. but no ty. elevation is my home and i should be allowed to enjoy all aspects of the game to some extent there i think.
  19. still thats kinda besides the point im trying to discuss.. and tbh im fine with mongols having a champ nogump.. doesnt make a difference to me, its a fair equivelant to land of the dead in my book. I could maybe a see a problem if they began using 5 mag priests and 5 champ nogumps.. but im guessing theylve had enough respect for others not to do that yet. and thats great i think. Edit sry didnt know crown was needed for the nogump.. nvm then. my bad Edit2: sry conloach.. just proved to me again you shouldnt be allowed in these thread.. get out of my thread please if you cant respond in a civilized tone and on topic.
  20. well to avoid having 1 overpowered god in lib.. add a 2nd god on BL side.. should ease some of the concerns.. and even spice up BL priesthood a bit. as you say variety is a good thing.. so you also kind of agree BL dont have enough unique spells that are BL only.. i mean sharing close to 60-70% of our already limited spellset with WL priests doesnt seem very varied to me.
  21. true.. i didnt really want to bring up the whole champ nogump thing.. because tbh i feel it kinda cancels out the lotd we do. and yes dom is quite nice compared to rebirth.. but they need the nogump tbh to counter lotd.. so i find it somewhat fair.. each side has atleast 1 big doomsday device/spell to some extent..
  22. Okay so we have RT/Botd.. but what does that have to do with the lack of other unique pve spells for BL? you mean that 1 spell makes up for the 26 other unique spells WL have access to? infact i challenge anyone i mention a PvE utlity spell in line with strongwall/disintegrate, mend, genesis.. that BL has, specifically one unique to BL..
  23. I have been trying to hold a civilized thread to shed some light.. i have not been spamming threads.. thats candee and tbh i agree hes making every BL look bad .. and should be banned from the forum for trolling.. dont think i havent been reporting/complaining about him.. and again.. stop trying to derail the thread. And im not arguing 1 god over another.. im arguing BL over WL.. Fo already had some pretty good healing spells for pvp use. aoe and heal all wounds. not to mention a ton of decent pve utility.
  24. Putting words in my mouth.. im saying exactly the oppposite.. i want more pve utilty for BL. to bring it up to par with WL for one i would love to see genesis and stronwall/disintegrate on BL.. strongwall couldve saved us 50s on our deed work where WL get it for free or lot cheaper.. prem cost of a mag at most. I'd gladly give up some pvp spells on BLs part.. i agree we have far too many redundant spells tbh. And a few more lurker spells maybe ones unique to BL would be nice.. feels like we have very little in terms of unique spells the way i see it. Or if it comes down to suggesting new things.. maybe something similar to goatshape that increase lockingpicking/thievery skill temporarily for a few minutes.
  25. 1 new god for BL would be a decent suggestion.. give it a few spells from WL side and a few new unique ones. wouldnt presume to say what/which spells to add.. but the way i see it.. BL does lack in the spell arsenal so its a decent suggestion.. but it would be drowned out by candee's troll threads atm so i wont even bother posting in suggestion.. wanna have a civil discussion about the balance here instead.