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This is already implemented imo (my alt with 7 mining couldnt mine on a slope of 30 for example). However i think its like mining skill x3 for what you can mine on.

How about stop trolling. Of course i meant find a pet worth of pvp (not any old deer will do). Think before you post in future.

Jock isnt saying they are weak, he is just saying allow them to survive for longer as it is hard to find a pet everyday where mag or fo can just dominate/tame the same pet over and over again. Possibly something like storing the soul of the creature to rebirth or something like that.

+1 Very under powered.

+1

would be cool to have +1

How about a spell that instead of dirt, removes rock (just like surface mining does)would take the same requirements as remove dirt. Thoughts?

Old Emoo looks Old.

Ah yes i understand. Okay maybe i will have to wait for firepillar to reduce in lag hehe. Thanks for the help buddy. Can close this now. Red

*Red Scratches his head* ... Could you explain?

Will have to try - although i would rather not use it due to the spell effects lagging people out. Is there any other alternative?

Very bottom bit is the info u need i think

Basically the client just goes pop and i get the Red screen thingy saying "Meh, Client crash". Here is the log file. Unexpected crash while playing The error was: <null> It's possible you might figure out what's wrong from the log file below, but if you can't, post the full log on the wurm online forums, and someone else might be able to help you. Contents of console.log: Time is Wed Jan 19 07:38:29 GMT 2011 Running client version 2.7.5g === System information === Executing from C:\Users\*****\Downloads Operating system: Windows 7 (arch: x86, version: 6.1) Java version: 1.6.0_20 (Sun Microsystems Inc.) &lt;http://java.sun.com/> Jvm version: 16.3-b01 (Sun Microsystems Inc.) [Java HotSpot Client VM] Available CPUs: 2 >>> Main thread exiting. Loading character Red Loading config default Loading props file C:\Users\*****\Documents\configs\default\gamesettings.txt Loading props file C:\Users\*****\Documents\players\Red\password.txt >>> LoginFrame queue entry exiting. 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We actually had 2 flat packed cata's iin the cart but thats neither here nor there.

Xallo you can back me up on this. We had 10 people 3 of which were champs and we had the chancellor too (10 people is a resonable raiding force) with champ trolls etc. We didnt kill the 30-40 guards with Xallo defending it, due to the fact there is too much tisk (and people were tired but thats deside the point). Im not saying make Raiding easy, its at a good ballence atm. Just for the good of wurm, dont make it harder. Edit: Rolf, i think you have an idea that champ are unstoppable and can take 10 guards at once, the sad reality is they are just as vulnerable as nom players just they have a little more health etc.

+1 the fighting cap indeed is good, otherwise it'll just be 90fs is the new pvp fighting skill and will just be absurd

Indeed - Actually Raiding is hard enough as it is. Killling guards while there is enemy presence is extremely vulnerable unless you outnumber the enemy 20:1.

Well guards are a good tactical thing to have. such as when the guards spawn you rush the enemy, hoping for the gank shot on the players with 3 guards on them.

What annoys me is that you get a constant stream of idiotic ideas. RAWR

Thats very true Rolf, but the sad realisation, is that 10champs will kill 50 guards no problem without any resistance. Basically you just hit them to bleeding/dying and then kill them in one fatal swoop.

Indeed.

Oh yeah i agree with you Friend, But im just saying, if u make it harder people will be less inclined to pvp.

Rolf, Making the game harder will make champ players less confident to make risky moves etc, thus, preserving the champ lifes, and thus creating an environment that pvp will not happen Just my two pennies. Red

Hey Rolf, just giving some input here: Attackers, by virtue of the fact they are attacking, generally have quite a few numbers. The defenders are almost always outnumbered in combat. There are exceptions but this is the general circumstance. Giving attackers a combat bonus is ill-advised, defenders need it more often than not. I see your logic but I don't think this is a good direction to take things. Please reconsider.

You dont have to set it as "Allies" then :.