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  1. Posted

    On 1/14/2024 at 7:15 PM, GavinMcStine said:

    Your sub 80q snowballs will not last to the next year. I'm still disappointed this was changed, I've not made any food since this update went live.

     

    I filled a larder just after the nodes update came out. I put in the first 100 snowballs I found, with no regard for quality. The lowest was 48.93 quality, the highest 99.87.

     

    As of today (45 days later, and past the next winter), 92 snowballs remain, with the lowest being 54.95 quality.

     

    It would seem that if you're even the slightest bit picky and take perhaps only 60ql+ snowballs, you should make it a full year easily with 100 balls. And even if you're not picky at all, you'll be alright.

  2. Posted

    Maybe using a washing bowl could speed up sobering up from alcohol.

     

    It could also give you a "you're clean" buff that shows up in the spell effects list and when someone examines you, but does exactly nothing from a mechanics perspective. That would be enough for role play purposes.

     

    On 1/6/2024 at 7:25 PM, Madnath said:

    Honestly, reducing disease power, how long it lasts and the chance of getting it in a group sounds fantastic. Disease is that one weird thing where seeing it just annoys you even though, as far as we've seen via WU, it does literally nothing.

     

    Yeah, that's also a good one.

  3. Posted

    7 hours ago, Ekcin said:

    Yes we agree, both to the states being mutually exclusive, and the amount depending on tile type and grass length. What you wrote was misunderstandable, as you clarify now I have nothing to disagree. My point was that the two states were not equivalent, not allowed/not harvestable meant it could change to allowed/harvestable by rng anytime (I do not know whether there was a minimum, but encountered some tiles picked the day before several times when I tried for some reason).

     

    As far as I can tell there is no minimum, and a tile could become harvestable again a fraction of a second after you first harvest it. The chance for that is pretty low though.

     

    There is also no maximum, so a tile can stay not-havestable for a very long time by nothing but bad luck.

  5. Posted

    3 hours ago, Finnn said:

    Almost sure same problem happens if you use pendulum or anything like tracking, etc..

     

    Yes, exact same problem.

     

    3 hours ago, Finnn said:

    anything using player directions... for some reason "the player" location/direction is taken from the camera view, and not the player model, which is funny.... as anything like interaction and combat reach to take/do damage is taken from he player model.. so there's some odd detachment since the 3rd person camera view was added?

     

    When in third person, it uses whatever direction you were facing when you switched from first to third person, and ignores the camera direction. You can "update" your direction by quickly switching to first person and then back to third person.

     

    My guess is that when you are in first person and turn, the client tells the server where you're facing. But when you are in third person and change the camera, the client doesn't tell the server anything. So the server continues to use the last direction it received for any calculations regarding combat/tracking/etc.

  6. Posted

    3 hours ago, Finnn said:

    So what.. random herd or wild animals comes and eats from the tiles to lower grass growth on tiles with bush/trees where that's not possible to graze, players come and harvest some, etc..?

     

    Grass grows randomly and there are a few non-player events that can make short grass tiles, like when the grass spreads, and some stuff with trees that I don't remember the exact details of. If you manually plant a tree sprout it'll reset the grass on that tile, for example, and I think it does the same if a tree newly spreads in the wild (but not if it replants itself, or something like that). I don't remember what it does when a tree dies and doesn't replant, that might also reset the grass.

     

    I had a look around here and found several tiles that weren't max grass height, one of which was on deed so I'm 100% certain it wasn't cut. I expect you'll be able to find such tiles occasionally wherever you forage/botanize, too.

     

    3 hours ago, Finnn said:

    I've had 1-2 items per tile, checked logs had 1 item found at times, which is possible to be steppe, even though I'd normally not use steppe..

     

    Marsh, tundra, steppe, peat, and moss always acted like short grass for the purpose of the calculation.

     

    3 hours ago, Finnn said:

    if the reason for less items per tile is rolls to find nothing.. could be, not like I care much, it's care-free activity, used to be...

     

    If you foraged/botanized for something specific and you didn't roll something in that category, it'd throw it away behind the scenes and tell you that you found nothing. That would still count towards your search amount though.

     

    Could also be you just canceled the action manually for some reason.

  7. Posted

    13 minutes ago, MrJonnyboy said:

    As I explained, it's nothing on my end thats the issue. Others from the northeast that I've talked to have been having a similar issue. The lag is inconsistent, like yesterday it was fine till 10pm and then for an hour it was bad. The other day it was so bad I gave up trying to play, and a friend was almost killed multiple times and struggled to get home.

     

    I expect what's happening is that an internet link somewhere between you and the Wurm datacenter is getting overloaded or otherwise has issues.

     

    This is why it's intermittent: the link works but can't handle all traffic it should. It's worse when there's more traffic (probably evenings but can vary).

    This is why mostly people from part of the USA have similar problems: your traffic all happens to end up routed over that link.

    This is why other people in the USA don't have problems: their traffic gets routed over another link. There are like a dozen sea cables between the US and EU for example, and a lot more virtual links on top of those. And it might also be any of the other links that make up the routing spaghetti that is the internet.

    This is also why using a VPN works: the traffic from you to wherever you put your VPN endpoint doesn't go over that link, and the traffic from there to the Wurm servers doesn't, either.

     

    Unfortunately this is often pretty hard to diagnose and resolve as nobody directly involved here actually has control over the part that's not working right.

  8. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Finnn said:

    non sense..

    you could of looted up to 4 items from a tile.. if you do it early.. you could maybe get 1 or 2.. and that's it, you don't just magically get optimal results, funny to tech other when you had no clue how any of this worked before

     

    The amount of items you could get was determined by the growth stage of the grass, capped by your skill. One thing in short grass, two in medium, three in tall, four in wild. And foraging/botanizing did not change the growth stage of the grass.

     

    Whether or not a tile can be foraged or botanized was stored in one bit each. It's either yes or no for either. This was set to "no" on the first thing you harvested, and would be set to "yes" later on whenever the tile poller passed that tile and succeeded a RNG check.

     

    There was no "early" or growing back in stages.

  9. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Ekcin said:

    I don't understand that statement. ICMP cannot be given priority, it has priority, as the lowest IP level. It is interface to interface communication, basically network communication hardware to hardware. Even in the highly virtualized server architectures of large enterprises, this is the case unless newest cloud farms changed that (not heard about and not seeing why).

     

    ICMP can be shaped and routed and prioritized just like any other traffic. If you own a saturated link, your hardware will have to make choices about which packets they drop and which ones they get through. If you want to fudge things to make yourself look better, you can configure your routers to never drop ping related packets (making it look like there's no packet loss) and to pass them on ahead of any other traffic currently buffered (making it look like latency is better than it is). In larger networks you can even route ping packets differently. All of this is shitty behavior of course, but there are shitty operators out there.

  10. Posted

    There have been cases of less scrupulous actors giving ICMP priority on their networks to make it look like they provide better ping times than they really do, too.

     

    For best results we'd need an in-band ping, where the Wurm client sends a message to the server via the same stream that carries all the rest of the game data, and gets a response back that same way and gives you the timing. That would take some dev work on both client and server, but it'd give results very closely in line with other things you do in game.

  11. Posted

      

    18 hours ago, Finnn said:

    if you often had picked-clean or less than optimal actions on the tiles you checked - you either did that daily... or somebody else was checking same area;

     

    This was not a thing. Tiles were either forageable/botanizable or not. There was no partial recovery.

     

    18 hours ago, Finnn said:

    not understanding anything and complaining about nonsense,

     

    hmmm...

  13. Posted

    10 minutes ago, GoldFever said:

    In regards to skill gain, I've noticed that my skill gain for foraging seems to be many many times higher than my skill gain for botanize even though my skill level is only 62 in bot and now 52 in for.

     

    Plantlike nodes are botanizing, piles of stuff (rocks, flotsam, etc) are foraging. If you want more botanizing, try going through a forest and concentrate on what looks like plants.

     

    10 minutes ago, GoldFever said:

    Good work, though I'm not thrilled about having to swap out special gloves for for/bot vs. my combat gloves. But I can live with that.

     

    You don't strictly need special gloves. I just CoC enchanted my regular chain armor gloves so I'm good whether I encounter plants or animals.

  14. Posted

    17 hours ago, Ekcin said:

    Well that demonstrates the brokenness of a design based on a weird difficulty scheme. In the old system, there may have been different difficulties on the items harvested,

     

    Thing is, it's the *old* system that had a weird difficulty scheme. The difficulty for most items ended up chasing your skill, and that sorta got you in a decent range for skilling. But that system was unique to foraging/botanizing. It also had the drawback of never getting you in optimal skilling range, and you could not turn it off to make maximal use of high skill.

     

    The new one is much more in line with how most other skills in the game work. Things have a base difficulty, and you have some system to make it harder if you need that. For most skills this means using lower quality tools. For various food related skills (and now foraging/botanizing) you use alcohol. For climbing you change what slope you're on, etc.

     

    17 hours ago, Ekcin said:

    I just do not understand (more exactly, do not approve) the broken idea of difficulties on nodes or materials. What is it good for? What would the nodes lose if that sh*t would be abandoned, forcing unethical and stupid minmax hacks on everyone wanting to gain skill beyond 70?

     

    There is no way to *not* have difficulties, that is inherent to the game's skill system. Changing that would mean changing the very core of how skills work in Wurm, which I expect is not going to happen. You can however ask for a different system for adjusting your difficulty, like the jewelry enchants proposal.

  18. Posted

    Currency gets drained just fine via paying for subscriptions and paying for cosmetics.

     

    If the main currency drain is subscriptions, then the incentive for the devs is to make it so people want to play the game, so more people will want subscriptions. And the silver system allows people with more real life money to (indirectly) pay for the subscriptions of people with less real life money but more time. This is the best situation as the incentives for the devs are aligned with what the players want.

     

    When cosmetics are a currency drain, the incentive for the devs is to make new cosmetics that can only be bought in the shop. There has been plenty of friction over this in the last half year, with people complaining about skins. The incentives of the devs and players are no longer aligned, but at least it only affects looks.

     

    When QoL items are a currency drain, the incentive for the devs is to introduce problems in the game that can be solved with cash shop items. Now the incentives for the devs and the players are completely opposite. Instead of getting paid for making the game better, they get paid for making the game worse. This is a bad situation to be in.

     

    QoL fixes and new features should be freely available to everyone who already pays a subscription.

  19. Posted

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

     

    The problems that are solved with solutions that can be bought with money that you mention there is called Wurm Online. Everything can be dealt with in Wurm Online using Silvers. 

     

    You can't remove the ability of buying pretty much everything with silver from Wurm Online, so all you can do right now is just let the game become better while the incentive to do it is there. 

     

    Me, earlier in the thread: "Buying silver and paying other players with them for things they do in game is alright too. This mostly just shifts whoever's pulling their wallet for what the silver is used for in the end."

     

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

    The problem that you mention will be added after this feature is already there, it has been there for ages. It is called decay. The solution for that problem has also been there, it is called LMC and it existed for ages. 

     

    I literally said that shop solutions to existing QoL and introducing more QoL problems to sell more shop solutions are two different things. Here's a list to make it extra clear:

    1. QoL issues exist.
    2. Instead of just fixing them for everyone, devs start selling cash shop solutions.
    3. People need to pay more and more money to solve their QoL issues.
    4. Devs like more money and arrange new content so it has intentional QoL issues built in from the start, together with new cash shop solutions that come out the same day.
    5. Game becomes crap unless you pay a lot beyond your subscription fee.

    We've had some amount of 2 for a while. I want less of it. Your proposal here makes more of 2. I push back on it.

     

    The reason I point out 4 is that that's the next step, and even worse.

     

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

    You are making an invalid arguement. It is an invalid arguement because this item is not creating a new problem, not demanding a new problem, not causing a new problem and also not creating a new solution. 

     

    I did not make that argument. See the numbered list above.

     

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

    You don't want it to get more currency spending oriented? Well, it is already too late to make that arguement.

     

    How is it too late to argue against *more*? It is never too late to argue against more. You can always argue against more, no matter how much there already is.

     

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

    Not only that, but also that kind of arguement would be more fitting somewhere else and not on this subject. Large Magical Chest is already here so this kind of new item would only create more convenience and make you use the items you or others created by enhancing them with these stickers instead of directly getting a LMC from the shop.

     

    Magical chests should not be in the cash shop. But at least you can get them with marks, too.

     

    7 hours ago, Simyaci said:

    It is more in the spirit of Wurm Online to create your own item from the materials you choose for the look you choose, and slap a sticker on it to make it work similar to a LMC as container. 

     

    I don't mind the sticker itself. That idea is fine, although I would think a rune or something fits better thematically. What I object to is making it yet another cash shop solution.

  20. Posted

    3 hours ago, topkos said:

    what is so wrong about using Visa or Mastercard, supporting the game legitimately for the same purpose.

    Better QoL.

     

    It gives the devs a direct financial incentive to make the game worse in order to then sell a solution for the problems they create. And they can create as many problems as they want, which in the long run leads to the game being crap and the players being nickled and dimed to death.

     

    The nodes update allowed you to prevent spawns on your deed, for example, but only if you paid for a spirit templar. That went over very badly , and rightly so. And the requirement for a templar had to be dropped.

     

    I already pay a subscription, that should include all QoL.

  21. Posted

    Yes, we already have pay-to-win elements. We need *less* of that, not more.

     

    Paying for cosmetics is fine, as long as there's a good selection of non-pay cosmetics too.

     

    Buying silver and paying other players with them for things they do in game is alright too. This mostly just shifts whoever's pulling their wallet for what the silver is used for in the end.

     

    Directly paying the devs for gameplay advantages, either in silver or with regular money, sets up a toxic feedback loop of perverse incentives that destroys games. That needs to be pushed back on at every point. Once it becomes acceptable to implement advantages or QoL improvements via shop items, these things will keep coming, and eventually you'll need a big shopping list just to get baseline gameplay. And the step after that is to intentionally introduce paygated things with every patch and feature. Want to do mounted foraging? Pay for a special saddle. Want to be able to harvest the high tier Fo tree items? Pay for a special glove. Want snowballs to decay slower? Pay for an insulated satchel. Want your deed clean? Pay for a groundskeeper. This is ###### and I do not want it.